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iPhone 4 was a big update and I really don't feel the need to upgrade any time soon. It feels like it has plenty of life left in it. I'd rather they wait until they've got something that will really wow us. Hopefully this means big things with MobileMe, iOS 5 and Lion, which I personally find much more exciting than an incremental hardware update.
 
That's just getting complacent in my opinion, people like myself like changing phones yearly, no new iPhone means no return business, I'll try something else instead, bad move if true.

You go ahead and move to another platform. That just means you lose all the money you've invested into App store apps.

It's hard to imagine myself moving to another phone platform and losing all the money I've spent on apps.
 
Makes sense

It's a "Developers Conference" - doesn't technically have much to do with hardware. iPhone gets introduced in January like the first iPhone. This has probably already been said, but fook reading 400 posts.
 
Actually, Apple did comment on the white iPhone, officially, even though it was an unreleased product. Steve Jobs himself said that it would be released at the end of July. They weren't. Then they said it would be released later in the year (2010). Again, they weren't. How is he a fool for waiting when there was official information regarding (supposedly solid) release dates?

Because I said so.

I do not believe he was talking about the white iPhone. And anyone who held off getting an iPhone because they wanted a white one, made the decision to do so. Should Apple release a product that didn't meet their specifications?

Anyone who claims that Apple is playing them for a fool, because they do not release a new iPhone in June is indeed a fool. Apple is not saying that they're releasing a new iPhone.
 
Some of us have been saying this for nearly a year now, but Apple's next big announcement will be the "unification" of OS X and iOS.

All applications will be purchased through Apple's closed ecosystem so they can take their 30% cut. More full screen apps on OS X. The Apple fanbois will all hail Job's innovation and genius.
 
Or Not?

depends how many people are eligible to upgrade

last year AT&T opened the floodgates on early upgrades and locked a lot of people in who wouldn't have been eligible until later in the year

apple knows how many people are eligible so it doesn't make sense to release a phone with a smaller eligible customer base. i bet apple and AT&T will work out another financial arrangement to allow early upgrades starting in september or so

I was wondering how ol' Big Blue would top themselves after the "anyone eligible in 2010" bit, but according to this, looks like they simply aren't going to try to top themselves. AT&T has changed it's upgrade policy, more closely matching Verizon's. From now on if you upgrade, don't expect another discount for an absurd 20 mo...no more 13mo (i.e. iPhone every year) discounts for you, buddy!
 
You go ahead and move to another platform. That just means you lose all the money you've invested into App store apps.

It's hard to imagine myself moving to another phone platform and losing all the money I've spent on apps.

Not if you have an iPad too though. That's a new factor that should be considered. Is there *that* much incentive to have two iOS devices? Why not have Android and reap the advantages of both systems? Especially if it lets you have LTE now...

I'm a 3GS owner, still happy with it but nevertheless anticipating to upgrade this year. It's going to be a real decision as to what to do.
 
I definitely hope this is a lie.

I have a iPhone 3GS and now its getting to the point where its old and I need a new upgrade.

My contract ends June, If apple doesnt release anything or give us a "heads up" on when they might release the 4GS/5 then I will gladly look at the Motorola Atrix or anything by HTC / Samsung.
 
Because I said so.

I do not believe he was talking about the white iPhone. And anyone who held off getting an iPhone because they wanted a white one, made the decision to do so. Should Apple release a product that didn't meet their specifications?

Anyone who claims that Apple is playing them for a fool, because they do not release a new iPhone in June is indeed a fool. Apple is not saying that they're releasing a new iPhone.

I was talking about white iPhone when I said that Apple mislead me and other consumers, which they did.

As for the 1 year cycle, while they never promised it, part of what makes them better than the competition is that Apple is heck of a lot more reliable than most of them. With this slip up in the cycle, they are losing that competitive advantage.

As for your contribution to this whole discussion, I am pretty sure that if Apple never released another phone again, and turned to selling actual apples from trees instead, your reaction to that would be to state that they don't owe phones to anyone. While that's technically correct, it's hardly a useful contribution in a forum like this. But hey.. if you like to hear yourself yell out simple facts we all know already, knock yourself out.
 
That's just getting complacent in my opinion, people like myself like changing phones yearly, no new iPhone means no return business, I'll try something else instead, bad move if true.

Please explain the complacency?

The iPhone is the top selling smart phone in the world and people are still buying it. I think it would be a smart move for Apple to wait a year before releasing a brand new iPhone (although I'm not ruling out a minor upgrade in the midterm). Just think of the hype that Apple will have if they introduce a newly designed iPhone next year.

Now let's discuss your comment of "no new iPhone means no return business".

That's too funny. I know many people who have decided to purchase iPad 2's this year instead of a new iPhone. Which means more money for Apple and hooking people further into iOS. Simply brilliant.

Imagine if Apple can get their customer base to buy a new iPhones and iPads on alternating years.

Also remember, most people aren't like you. They don't like buying new phones every year and they don't like feeling like their phone is old either. If you want to go experiment with a new toy/phone, go for it. Like everyone I know who tried an Android product you'll be scratching head wondering why you ever switched.
 
I've been thinking about it a fair bit and it just doesn't make sense for Apple to push the "regularly" scheduled launch date for the iPhone to September. It will throw off millions of customers' upgrade timeframes, making them wait long enough and maybe get frustrated enough to go to Android. If they delay anything due to supply issues, I doubt it will be much more than a month long delay. I don't see Apple as giving a crap that people who ALREADY gave them money and signed contracts will be irritated that a new phone is coming out. If anything, the rich prigs of the bunch will just go ahead and pay full price to upgrade again, making Apple even more money. How would Apple see this as bad??

It DOES, however, make sense to stop announcing hardware at a software developers' conference. The added benefit to spacing out the announcements is that it will allow buzz to build, press to be garnered, followed by more buzz and more press, rinse, repeat... It seems likely that Apple will continue with format of the last couple hardware releases and schedule press conferences when they are nearing release date.
 
I was talking about white iPhone when I said that Apple mislead me and other consumers, which they did.

As for the 1 year cycle, while they never promised it, part of what makes them better than the competition is that Apple is heck of a lot more reliable than most of them. With this slip up in the cycle, they are losing that competitive advantage.
So you felt mislead and made a fool of because you couldn't get a white iPhone 4? That's sad.

If Apple releases the white iPhone 4 in June will you buy it and no longer feel foolish?

I didn't realize how much of competitive advantage a white iPhone 4 was. No wonder the iPhone 4 was such a failure.

What makes Apple better than the competition is that they make both the hardware and the software. That is the competitive advantage that Android devices do not have.
 
I was eligible in February for an early upgrade from my "dumb" phone, and have been debating on whether to wait or just go for the iP4. Now the choice is even more difficult.

One thing I've noticed in the past couple of months, ATT has seemed to be really pushing the 3Gs for $49. It seems they are trying to move as much stock as possible so that they won't be stuck with those when the 4s or 5 comes out, then the current 4 will become the $49 or $99 iPhone. I guess it's working, my sis-in-law just bought a new 3Gs last week!
 
The iPhone4 is already dated relative to other phones on the market. To have a phone on the market for 18 months without an update is insane.

Doesn't feel dated to me (the consumer) which is all that matters. I suspect that most other iPhone4 owners feel the same way. And no, I'm not talking about the Mac rumors frequent flyers who look for the latest and greatest on a daily basis. There is PLENTY of life left in the iPhone4.
 
Not if you have an iPad too though. That's a new factor that should be considered. Is there *that* much incentive to have two iOS devices? Why not have Android and reap the advantages of both systems? Especially if it lets you have LTE now...

I'm a 3GS owner, still happy with it but nevertheless anticipating to upgrade this year. It's going to be a real decision as to what to do.

I've spent money on plenty of iPhone only apps /non-HD versions of apps that wouldn't be able to be used again (at least how they were intended, i.e. on the iPhone) without iPad upscaling.
 
Apple will be revealing the iPhone 5

According to Pocket-Lint, Apple will be revealing the iPhone 5 at their keynote on June 6th. This statement is supported by Apple confirmation on their announcement regarding iOS.

http://bit.ly/eNKgdl
 
Maybe the only parts needed different from the iPhone 4 are only the larger screens, which apple already has that market cornered.
 
It's quite possible Apple just doesn't want people to stop buying iPhone 4's and this is there way of throwing people off.

Someone here finally gets it.

Information lockdown is the name of the game following last year's iPhone 4 early reveal on Engadget.
 
I definitely hope this is a lie.

I have a iPhone 3GS and now its getting to the point where its old and I need a new upgrade.

My contract ends June, If apple doesnt release anything or give us a "heads up" on when they might release the 4GS/5 then I will gladly look at the Motorola Atrix or anything by HTC / Samsung.

Why would Apple give a "heads up" when the next iPhone is being released?

If Jobs goes on stage at WWDC and says "Expect the new iPhone 5 to ship in September," want to guess how many iPhone 4s they'll sell in the interim?

You don't announce a new model of something like this until you're ready to start taking orders almost immediately.
 
Why because it doesn't have a dual core processor, 1GB of RAM and a 3D screen with 5G radio?

Oddly enough, you do make a good point. We've reached a point where progress is no longer that much of an urgency.

The iphone 4 is good enough, in the sense that there's no more urgency to upgrade hardware as often.
 
YES. I've been saying they should do this for a year now with the 4. It's a very good phone and can hold it's place for an extra year. This way, 5 will be a HUGE upgrade (hopefully).
 
You people that care about a damn phone then people are sad... Just because you do not get your new phone... Japan just got hit big and you people are cry like babies and it sad.. You could care more about Japan then a damn phone.... All I see is a lot of nothing more then sad a$$ people here....
 
You people that care about a damn phone then people are sad... Just because you do not get your new phone... Japan just got hit big and you people are cry like babies and it sad.. You could care more about Japan then a damn phone.... All I see is a lot of nothing more then sad a$$ people here....

This thread is about the iPhone, why would we talk about Japan? This thread is what it is. If you are offended then climb back in your hybrid and hug a tree or something.

Daily life does not come to a standstill becuase of a natural disaster that happened two weeks ago in another part of the world.
 
Last year the lost iPhone 4 prototype saga probably caused a lot of loss sale of the 3GS, I don't think Apple will let this happen again, and thus we heard the rumour of delayed iPhone 5 CONINCIDENTALLY on the same day with the WWDC announcement because for the past few years WWDC == new iPhone. :)

My guess is that we are still getting a new iPhone around June 2011.
 
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