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You better believe it! I get so sick about how under powered the mac hardware is while Im making a VERY comfortable living off them. These people whing about how crappy apples hardware is couldn't even type a meaningful post to a thread let alone live off thier mac or any computer for that matter!!! The mp's will come out when they come out but Im still cruzin right along with the mac I have now doing work that you see and hear every day. I think some need to start thinking more on the lines that they just don't have the chops and quit worrying about what tomorrow brings because hey, today you sucked... tomorrow you'll just have a faster computer to do your suck work on...

LOL! Comedy!
 
You better believe it! I get so sick about how under powered the mac hardware is while Im making a VERY comfortable living off them. These people whing about how crappy apples hardware is couldn't even type a meaningful post to a thread let alone live off thier mac or any computer for that matter!!! The mp's will come out when they come out but Im still cruzin right along with the mac I have now doing work that you see and hear every day. I think some need to start thinking more on the lines that they just don't have the chops and quit worrying about what tomorrow brings because hey, today you sucked... tomorrow you'll just have a faster computer to do your suck work on...

OK, you've been found out Mr. Spielberg. Now why was The Pacific so disappointing?
 
You better believe it! I get tired or hearing from these so called experts :rolleyes: about how under powered the mac hardware is while Im making a VERY comfortable living off them and reaching my goals. These people whing about how crappy apples hardware is couldn't even type a meaningful post to a thread let alone live off thier mac or any computer for that matter!!! The Mac Pro's will come out when they come out but Im still cruzin right along with the mac I have now doing work that you see and hear every day. I think some need to start thinking more on the lines that they just don't have the chops and quit worrying about what tomorrow brings because hey, today you sucked... tomorrow you'll just have a faster computer to do your suck work on...

You seem very hostile.

It is obvious that all Steve Jobs has to do is to take his liver transplant anti-rejection medications and improve the bottomline for the company ("shareholder value") which is not any more Apple Computers but just Apple Inc.

He does not owe us (the customers) anything but would it kill him to have an announcement that new MPs will be released in 1 or 2 or 3 months?

Remember how far in advance they announced the iPad 3G?
Why does he not want to do that with the MP?
That is what gets people mad and angry.
 
You seem very hostile.

It is obvious that all Steve Jobs has to do is to take his liver transplant anti-rejection medications and improve the bottomline for the company ("shareholder value") which is not any more Apple Computers but just Apple Inc.

He does not owe us (the customers) anything but would it kill him to have an announcement that new MPs will be released in 1 or 2 or 3 months?

Just see how far in advance that announced the iPad 3G.
Why does he not want to do that with the MP?
That is what gets people mad and angry.

Because if he announced an update time in the future, it would KILL Mac Pro sales. No one in their right mind would buy one now with an announced update looming.
 
Because if he announced an update time in the future, it would KILL Mac Pro sales. No one in their right mind would buy one now with an announced update looming.

You're probably right but I doubt many people are buying them anyway unless they absolutly need them. And in that case if people need them now and the announcement said that it was still going to be 4 months out, then they'd probably still be forced to buy even with an announcement.
 
I know people doing platinum albums on mac pros and on G5's too... I don't think there's any one of you that could do any better work than your doing now on whatever your using let alone a faster one! Another useless thread!
Where do you people come from anyway? I know, they are switchers! I really wish that all the switchers would just go back to your PC's and let us that know WTF were doing alone!
I take my GF's out to steak and lobster while you broke dicks take yours to ronalds he he. If you can't afford it don't buy it! Get on your hackintosh or your bindblows machine and make a million then! Good luck because if you haven't done it yet you NEVER will!!!!

Huh?
I could place an order on a 2009 Mac pro right now if i wanted I'm just waiting for the newer models.
I am a pc user and this will be my first Mac. I will probably just do light video editing on it , browse the net and play WoW online:D That's right i can afford to spend 4,000$ to play WoW and browse the net.
Maybe you should tell those leet people making platinum albums ( most likely of Paris Hilton) to dish out some $$ and get a better PC.
And by the way mixing fish with meat it's not very classy buddy and remember white wine goes with fish and red wine with steak just in case you didn't know that.
 
Because if he announced an update time in the future, it would KILL Mac Pro sales. No one in their right mind would buy one now with an announced update looming.

That's one way to look at it.
We here (people using, buying or thinking about buying a MP) know that the 2010 model will come out any week/month.
As it was said: those who cannot wait will buy them whenever they need it; those who can wait for a couple of months will wait to get the new model.
The problem is that this secrecy will drive a fair share of potential customers to go the hackintosh route or just build/get a single or dual socket PC system and stay with Win 7.
Looking at all the pros and cons I think that the secrecy hurts them more (IMHO).
 
Huh?
I could place an order on a 2009 Mac pro right now if i wanted I'm just waiting for the newer models.
I am a pc user and this will be my first Mac. I will probably just do light video editing on it , browse the net and play WoW online:D That's right i can afford to spend 4,000$ to play WoW and browse the net.
Maybe you should tell those leet people making platinum albums ( most likely of Paris Hilton) to dish out some $$ and get a better PC.
And by the way mixing fish with meat it's not very classy buddy and remember white wine goes with fish and red wine with steak just in case you didn't know that.

I disagree that mixing fish with meat is not classy.
I have been to fancy/classy restaurants that served Surf'n'Turf (lobster tail and steak) but that's for another forum (MAC OSX - Fine Dining?).:D
 
That's one way to look at it.
We here (people using, buying or thinking about buying a MP) know that the 2010 model will come out any week/month.
As it was said: those who cannot wait will buy them whenever they need it; those who can wait for a couple of months will wait to get the new model.
The problem is that this secrecy will drive a fair share of potential customers to go the hackintosh route or just build/get a single or dual socket PC system and stay with Win 7.
Looking at all the pros and cons I think that the secrecy hurts them more (IMHO).
First off forgive my bad english but i learned to type it on the net =)
Houston is 100% right and i think that is the reason why they are not announcing it , it would kill the sale of the current Mac Pro's.
But I'm sorry if this is true then it is despicable for a compnay like Apple to treat their costumers like this.
If i go out and buy a current Mac Pro now and the day after the 2010 model comes out you can rest assured that this will be my last purchase from Apple.
This is why I'm inclined to believe that the reason there is no rumor yet on a release for the 2010 mac pro is because it's not going to be released any time soon.
I hope this is the case otherwise nice lame tactics from Steve job, sorry but this is just the way i see it.
I can expect this kind of behaviour from a company like Dell but not from Apple.

By the way cutthroughthebs you should be happy that there are people like me out there that switch to Mac's because we help the company grow other wise soon enough you will have to tell your leet friends to start editing platinum albums on iPad's lol.

"Yo check this out
I'm editing my platinum album on my magical iPad oh yeah oh yeah
This thang is so magical it edits like crazyyyyyy oh yeah oh yeah
( now paris Hilton chorus kicks in)
Oh yea I like it , I like it , I really really like it
yeahhhhhhhhh "

Sorry im drunk lol
 
Because if he announced an update time in the future, it would KILL Mac Pro sales. No one in their right mind would buy one now with an announced update looming.

I think it works both ways. If I knew the new Mac Pros weren't out 'til September I'd buy now rather than wait. As it is I'm in limbo, constantly feeling like a new model could be released in a weeks time and I'd get that much more bang for my buck.

Roll on Monday, at least we'll know one way or the other, kind of...
 
I think it works both ways. If I knew the new Mac Pros weren't out 'til September I'd buy now rather than wait. As it is I'm in limbo, constantly feeling like a new model could be released in a weeks time and I'd get that much more bang for my buck.

Roll on Monday, at least we'll know one way or the other, kind of...

If they don't announce anything at the WWDC, then it will be September or October. :(
 
Don't forget a possible quiet update on Tuesday, after the keynote... If we don't see anything by Tuesday morning, then don't expect anything too soon.
 
Hold tight. Dell and Boxx now are shipping Xeon 5600 boxes. The MP will be updated lickety split. I have been waiting for a 12 core since Feb too. The waiting is the best part... :)
 
Don't forget a possible quiet update on Tuesday, after the keynote... If we don't see anything by Tuesday morning, then don't expect anything too soon.

I can't imagine it being a quiet update. You're right about Tuesday though. If it doesn't happen by then, we're in for a long wait.
 
I think it works both ways. If I knew the new Mac Pros weren't out 'til September I'd buy now rather than wait. As it is I'm in limbo, constantly feeling like a new model could be released in a weeks time and I'd get that much more bang for my buck.

Roll on Monday, at least we'll know one way or the other, kind of...

This is where I'm at, and it sux! I'm hating waiting! I wish we just knew when it was being updated.
 
I know people doing platinum albums on mac pros and on G5's too... I don't think there's any one of you that could do any better work than your doing now on whatever your using let alone a faster one! Another useless thread!
Where do you people come from anyway? I know, they are switchers! I really wish that all the switchers would just go back to your PC's and let us that know WTF were doing alone!
I take my GF's out to steak and lobster while you broke dicks take your to ronalds he he. If you can't afford it don't buy it! Get on your hackintosh or your bindblows maching and make a million then!

They are using Pro Tools HD systems. My crappy G5 ppc could hold up too if I was running HD.
 
but would it kill him to have an announcement that new MPs will be released in 1 or 2 or 3 months?

That approach has killed companies before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect It would not likely literally kill Apple, but it is not a best practice business wise. Apple is being very disciplined. No exceptions (unless extreme circumstances) to commenting about stuff in advance. If there is a very simple rule then it is easier to make everyone follow it.

[ although it appears they do leak stuff if going to get a positive spin. However, that appears to be reserved to building hype, not being informative. ]


If there was some single customer who was going to buy $10M of MPros or walk in the next couple of weeks, then probably could get a NDA briefing. Someone who is going to buy 4 orders of magnitude less product won't.



Remember how far in advance they announced the iPad 3G?

Comparing apples and oranges. New, never been released, product lines get a lead time to introduction. Even more so when have to get FCC and/or external vendor testing, need to ship new SDK early to entire developer network, etc.

This is a product update on a mature product line. There have been the equivalent of a MacPro product for over a decade. There is no huge tectonic shift; just a regular update that happens to be quite late.

Several years ago Apple used to occasionally do an intro at a MacWorld and the shipping date would turn out to be a month (or at least several weeks) later. That was done in part because needed "ooooh aahhh" content for a fixed in stone date. They announced, along with dropping MacWorld, that they would do announcements on products as the were ready instead of readjusting the product release drops to fixed dates. Perhaps that really just should have said dropping Mac product announcements with fixed dates.

The ipods always drop in Sept-Oct for Christmas rush (Apple still doesn't have enough juice to move Christmas day and rest of holiday season. LOL.). The iPhone seems to be adjusting to drops in June so can do dog and pony show at WWDC. However, some stuff like iPhoneOS has moved out of fixed dates also.
 
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