No NFC in Next-Generation iPhone

[samcraig]

Apple will implement it when they can sell retail/etc on "offers" based on geolocation

Edit: Also - when they can implement it with either a new iPhone design or in the current/altered design.

 

[Z400Racer37]

Don't care. Not thrilled about walking around with my financials on my jailbroken iPhone anyway

lmaoo XD

 

[Bezetos]

For Android users with NFC phones, I can only ask them if this is a feature they are using in their daily life? I don't believe so, and believe it is more a gimmick to sell phones. That's not to say NFC is useless though. It's a nice feature to have in order to future-proof your phone. But I don't think it's an important feature to have even the forthcoming year.

I use it quite often on my Galaxy Nexus, not every day though, but I think it's more useful than Siri (which I don't really use that often on my iPhone), which was the selling point of iPhone 4S. Siri was a gimmick to sell the phone, IMO.

 

[turtlez]

Those kinds of functions are still useless, or at least not useful enough to justify there being a card permanently in there for it. It's still just for fun, like how Siri currently is.

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Like Thunderbolt and FireWire, right? Man, whoever didn't jump on that train is seriously left behind.

Being serious, the consumers would have benefited if FireWire had become the standard since it's better. Too bad Microsoft and others still push the slow USB standard.

thunderbolt and firewire are not apple inventions mate.

 

[D-Dave]

Duh.

The payment infrastructure hasn't been built out. NFC works great in Japan, South Korea, etc. because those countries have largely decided the dominant contactless payment systems.

Particularly in the United States, there is no major NFC contactless payment system. Apple isn't going to roll out an NFC-enabled handset until the world widely deploys a system. It's why the original iPhone was only a 2G device. Apple prioritizes compatibility with widespread network deployment, rather than catering to a new technology that is only available in a handful of markets

(Siri is an exception, but then again, Siri is a beta software service).

Maybe...just maybe you could add the 4G Support of the iPad 3 as another exception...

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

Like others have said. This isn't a deal breaker because i have nowhere to use NFC at the moment. I was hoping for apple to make this more mainstream but oh well. No biggie. Passbook will suffice for now.

 

[h1kar1]

Good day guys.

Well let me start by saying NFC was the main thing I was looking foward to in this phone.

If it is not there I will be no rush to get it. this is the only new tech in the phone. Apple needs to catch up with tech in there phones.

What I was waiting on NFC for is to be able to use it for security. ie 2Factor identification. things like a NFC yubikey with it. Some people would like to use it as its own NFC yubikey. Lay it next to your computer as the Second factor identification.

There are many uses for this not just for payment which is what everyone defaults to.

I have been a user since the first iphone has come out and have updated first weekend for everyone. I have allot invested in apple's eco system I would hate to jump ship but Apple needs to have something new in the 5 not just faster chip and bigger screen.

 

[faroZ06]

thunderbolt and firewire are not apple inventions mate.

So? It's still the standard they are/were trying to push. Having an Apple-invented standard would only lessen the chances of others using it, in fact.

At least FireWire is the standard for DV/HDV camcorders. Actually, they have to use FireWire since USB sucks too much for video streaming.

 

[olowott]

You gotta be joking me, come on Apple

Please surprise Me

 

[Imac&SoShouldU]

Well it's official...the only reason I'm even bothering to upgrade from my 4s is LTE.

 

[Kaibelf]

and right on cue, 99% of people here go from "I can't wait for NFC" to "NFC is overrated".

LOL totally. At least in my area NFC isn't really useful, so I'm not missing much. LevelUp is taking up the slack

 

[monkor]

And here comes the rationalization...

 

[budselectjr]

I only have like three places have have the credit card touch pay system. McDonalds, 7/11, and a few vending machines. Not sure its the same thing though.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

You guys missed the Windows Phone 8 presentation where they were demo'ing using NFC for everything from wireless payments to "tap-to-share" type of stuff. NFC is the future and Apple really should get with the program, least they appear to be lagging behind the times.

 

[57004]

Yeah I was already surprised at the rumours.. That thing is no bigger than a 1-eurocent coin.. Whereas NFC requires powering the NFC chip purely by radio waves of a very low frequency.. That pretty much needs a bigger antenna than that (or otherwise you'll waste a lot of energy).

But technology gets better so perhaps it would have been possible.

Edit: Ah I see that's what anandtech says too.. I was just speaking on my ham radio experience.

 

[Pegamush]

they'll put it on the sixth generation. oh.. wait.

 

[Sandstorm]

I start to dislike Apple more and more. This is not innovation. This is intentional exclusion of new things for them to be included in the next "revolutionary" release.

 

[iPusch]

Will that be the only thing you are dissatisfied with?

haha. Mostly yeah, thats the only thing. wbu?

 

[AppleScruff1]

And yesterday NFC was so important and everyone here was excited at the prospect of it being included on the new iPhone.

 

[Born Again]

"yep"

what a cocky jerk.


who cares about nfc - that's less REWARD CREDIT CARD POINTS PEOPLE!

 

[Thunderhawks]

NFC has yet to take off period anyway. Not really a deal breaker.

Some things are just better (and safer) the old fashioned way.

I don't mind waiting for a receipt.

It's okay to calm down even in our mobile lives

 

[zaneliu94]

At this point NFC is not at all a deal breaker. Where I live and where most of the US is, NFC is rarely if not ever implemented in stores or restaurants.

As for the big question that no one has asked....what is this square piece then? Clearly no one has seen this chip piece before. What could it be now then?

 

[LordVic]

Why are apple actively attempting to patent uses of NFC when they're not even adding it to their phone which is supposed to last you at least a year.

I'm still not sold. There's got to be NFC somewhere in this boondoggle of an iphone5

 

[iSee]

This is too bad (assuming it's true).

"NFC" has not taken off around me so this hardly cripples the phone. But it seems like including it will help the infrastructure to suppot streamlined secure transactions reach the critical mass needed to take off.

(Remember, NFC itself isn't the goal. The goal is to create a uniquitous system for streamlined secure transactions.)

NFC seems to fit so well with passboard, Apple must have looked at very closely. I wonder why it wasn't included?
* expense?
* lack of standards?
* ?

 

[iPusch]

Looks like we get the same iP4S chips as well :/ I getting more and more in worries