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Are you kidding? RAM has never been and will never be a "selling" point for iOS devices.

I can tell you right now RAM is everything. The difference between how smooth and fluid the iPhone 4S is compared to iPod Touch 4G is just insane. Not saying it is a selling point, because obviously the average consumer doesn't know a thing but yeah.
 
Hahaha, isn't this how it often is? So many people chomping at the bit to get a feature, they get pissed off if they don't get it....and when they do, they don't really use it?

Yip sure is !

I was desperate for a few features on the S3 and now I just use it like I did my iPhone 4 ha ha
 
Hahaha, isn't this how it often is? So many people chomping at the bit to get a feature, they get pissed off if they don't get it....and when they do, they don't really use it?

But for a lot of people who have the iPhone, they're listening to their friends who have...say the S3 and they're listing all these amazing wow features.....then they look back at the iPhone and it's like...oh....

It's almost starting to become embarrassing to have the iPhone!
 
Where & how, exactly, is the mass consumer market going to use NFC? Since the answer is "virtually nowhere and for no reason," I don't expect Apple to implement NFC any time soon.
 
Thank you! I guess everyone is too busy whining about NFC that they didn't notice.

I reckon it's either a re-housed camera unit or sensor OR it is in fact NFC. Is'nt the placement fine in this spot? All the talk in the article about coils and signal... I think this position is good as it is never held by the user apart from landscape mode....umm...what a conundrum! :(
 
and right on cue, 99% of people here go from "I can't wait for NFC" to "NFC is overrated".

I still don't understand why people want NFC in a phone anyway tbh. It's kinda handy for the 'bump to sync' stuff that Palm were doing but Apple's covering that through iCloud anyway. As for using it as a wallet... uh, no thanks. As far as I can see it offers zero benefit over a card in my wallet as:

a) You'd still have to much around with some form of ident for anything larger than a few pounds anyway.
b) It's often more convenient to get out a fairly unobtrusive wallet than a nice shiny (and breakable) phone.
c) The big one - my wallet can't run out of battery and leave me without a payment method.

The only major applications for 'tap and go' that I've seen in the real world is the London Underground and some - note some not all - credit / debit cards now offer the functionality if you happen to be using a particular kind of reader which very few retailers are at the moment. The Underground system couldn't utilise NFC even if it wanted to owing to current implementations being too slow (and, frankly, I can't think of an easier target for theft that someone going through a ticket barrier waving a smartphone at a sensor). So... where's the benefit? Or is this a case of technology for the sake of having technology?
 
You know, Thunderbolt has "yet to take off" but Apple fans still seem to laud Apple for including it and pushing new tech.

But if it's something the competitors are including and Apple isn't, then pssh, who needs it yet!
 
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Innovation came in designing the original iPhone. Hence Apple getting pissed when all of Samsung's phones started to look like the iPhone after it was released. Yay for common sense.
I don't think you understand what I mean.

One day people are saying that Apple is all about "innovation", the other that Apple is all about "steady iteration". It's a bit like trying to find excuses why Apple is late with introducing changes.
 
Has anyone said if the iPhone 5 will have a new camera? I'm looking for a larger lense, better picture quality, not just a MP race. No one needs 5000X5000 pics that are pasted to Facebook (viewed on a 4 inch smart phone).

The new camera should have leaked? If not, I guess that means there isn't a new one...?
 
Apple seems to like to retain the same design two years in a row so I have a difficult time believing NFC isn't compatible with the two tone backing for inclusion in the 2013 iPhone.
 
Where & how, exactly, is the mass consumer market going to use NFC? Since the answer is "virtually nowhere and for no reason," I don't expect Apple to implement NFC any time soon.

Duane Reade
McDonald's
7/11
Radio Shack
Petco
CVS
Rite Aid
Walgreen's
Whole Foods
Jamba Juice
Anthropologie
Foot Locker
American Eagle Outfitters
Bloomingdale's

just a sample of places that use NFC in my area.
 
Just another way to get your data/finances hacked into, stolen or othewise compromised imo.

I have the GS3 and I wouldn't use this even if it was widely available.
 
But isn't the battery life expected to be roughly the same due to higher processing power and GPU for the screen etc?

I doubt Apple will increase clocks and/or tweak cores to match the consumption of the 45nm A5. It had higher peak consumption than the A4, and given LTE seems likely, they'll probably want it to be a little leaner. By that token, if you're not a LTE user, you should see a net gain, theoretically. The increase in screen size should be offset by that fact that its in-cell and some other possible improvements.
 
You know, Thunderbolt has "yet to take off" but Apple fans still seem to laud Apple for including it.

But if it's something the competitors are including and Apple isn't, then pssh, who needs it yet!

I'm an Apple fan, and I could give a damn about thunderbolt... You have the wrong impression lol. I don't get all of the 'Andriod fan' 'Apple fan' BS, all I see is 'I'm a moron for saying this' when I read that in posts. If you are intelligent then you know Andriod has good features, and iOS has good features. Galaxy S3 is a great phone I'm sure, I don't have one, but I know it must be based on features and sales, and the new iPhones will be a great phone as well. NFC is also a good technology, but it simply isn't ready yet, so if you are intelligent you know that is isn't a needed feature. If you are stupid then you will complain about it.
 
Where & how, exactly, is the mass consumer market going to use NFC? Since the answer is "virtually nowhere and for no reason," I don't expect Apple to implement NFC any time soon.

my uni ID
campus doors
train ticket / plane gate
some taxis in my city
some gas stations, still rare tho
starbucks soon
 
Where & how, exactly, is the mass consumer market going to use NFC? Since the answer is "virtually nowhere and for no reason," I don't expect Apple to implement NFC any time soon.

I think you're going a bit too far with that statement.

Just to give you an example of what you can already do with NFC:
* Quick pairing up of bluetooth devices (this includes pairing up for sending data across devices, or e.g. pairing a phone with bluetooth enabled speakers)
* Quick sending of small pieces of information like contact information, URLs etc.
* NFC payments
* Quick Wi-fi setup for public networks

And just to quote a great comment by onthecouchagain
onthecouchagain said:
You know, Thunderbolt has "yet to take off" but Apple fans still seem to laud Apple for including it.

But if it's something the competitors are including and Apple isn't, then pssh, who needs it yet!
 
I don't think you understand what I mean.

One day people are saying that Apple is all about "innovation", the other that Apple is all about "steady iteration". It's a bit like trying to find excuses why Apple is late with introducing changes.

It's different ppl saying those things, not the same persons. Those are called opinions. Not sure what the fuss is about.

It's not like i or "everyone" else here said "omg nfc is awesome!" two days ago and am now making excuses. Stop generalizing all the users here.

While there are some that flip flop, to suggest it's anywhere minutely close to the majority is a lie.
 
and right on cue, 99% of people here go from "I can't wait for NFC" to "NFC is overrated".

What the hell is wrong with you and your kind? Why is every story simply an opportunity to rubbish people? You can't even think of anything intelligent to say about the technology itself.

Personally, I'll be disappointed if it's not in the new phone, for me it was the new tech that could have introduced entirely new ways to use the phone; payments, season tickets, loyalty cards etc and the iPhone was the product with sufficient momentum and well designed interface that it could have helped take it mainstream.
 
Just another way to get your data/finances hacked into, stolen or othewise compromised imo..

This was the same thing people said about ATM machines. That they would never use them because they're so insecure. Instead of getting money out from a bank teller who knew you, you might lose your ATM card and anyone could take your money out. And, would gangs hang around ATM machines late at night to steal all your money? There are armed guards in banks to take care of that. Etc. Etc.

With every new technology, people will eventually get used to it and it will be the new norm.

I think we'll eventually have phones and NFC built into watches we wear. The killer feature is for someone to invent a way to communicate into and view information from a device that small. Will have to be something like a holographic display of 4" coming out of the watch, and some other form of input like voice.
 
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