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No NFC in Next-Generation iPhone

chrmjenkins said:
I doubt Apple will increase clocks and/or tweak cores to match the consumption of the 45nm A5. It had higher peak consumption than the A4, and given LTE seems likely, they'll probably want it to be a little leaner. By that token, if you're not a LTE user, you should see a net gain, theoretically. The increase in screen size should be offset by that fact that its in-cell and some other possible improvements.
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Ahh nice okay, it would be awesome to see some better battery life!
 
Geckotek said:
And now ATM machines are being hacked with the addition of skimmers to steal your card # and PIN.
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This tells us nothing about the technology and everything about human nature. Bank notes have been forged and stolen since they were invented too. Perhaps you'd be happier bartering goods and services?
 
kirky29 said:
So what is this new iPhone actually gonna have.... Don't say LTE cause thats no use for me in England.

Slightly bigger screen
Maybe a tiny bit better camera
Some slight speed improvements

That's gonna look great on the website!

I hope Apple pulls something super amazing out cause I'm starting to use my S3 more and more...
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LTE in the UK would actually be perfectly timed. Bear in mind that most people will have their iPhone on a two year contract and LTE is due to roll out next year. This way if you buy into an iPhone 5 in September 2012 (and live in an area that's in the first wave of the rollout) you'll get a speed boost mid-contract rather than having to wait a year.

As for the rest you overlooked the biggest change - design. Quite frankly it's hard to see what Apple can do other than the items you listed. The camera is still one of the better ones out there, they're improving the screen (and not just size but quality too) and we're still a year away from the next big bump which will be the Cortex A15 and PowerVR series 6 SOC. Plus, of course, iOS 6 on top which brings a few big changes (maps being the obvious one including turn-by-turn) and several smaller but very useful changes (do not disturb is being underrated by the geek community IMO).

Without wishing to be rude, what do people expect? Unless Apple pull a fast one it's still too early for the big SOC bump we know is going to come with A15, the screen quality, camera quality and operating system are all top notch, battery life is likely to improve (A5 at 32nm seems the sensible guess and that would save a fair bit of juice, plus improved cellular radios)... what else would you realistically expect to make it in that would be a genuine game changer rather than gimmick? One thing I could maybe see them doing (and I wouldn't put money on this) is maybe dropping the price or increasing memory capacity but I don't think they really need to.
 
twochoicestom said:
It's not exactly taking the world by storm though is it. Bluetooth 4.0 will do just fine for now.
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its nice to have the option tho, like i personally have no need for Bluetooth. i dont think i ever enabled it on my iPhone because i cant send files to other phones with it anyway but still glad its there
 
o0jelly0o said:
I'm an Apple fan, and I could give a damn about thunderbolt... You have the wrong impression lol. I don't get all of the 'Andriod fan' 'Apple fan' BS, all I see is 'I'm a moron for saying this' when I read that in posts.
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I think some people think that if a couple of people say 'thunderbolt is great' then all Apple fans think that. No - just those people who wrote those messages.

I'm an Apple fan too. I'm neither pro-thunderbolt or anti-thunderbolt. I'm neither pro-NFC or anti-NFC. I think it would be cool to have the NFC technology in my next phone, but it's not a deal breaker because NFC isn't all that popular yet. If my next iPhone has NFC, I'll be more pro-NFC because it would be a technology I'd own. If my next iPhone didn't have NFC, I wouldn't really follow NFC discussions, because I'd have no need to as I didn't have NFC. But I'd never say that 'so and so phone is crap' because it didn't have NFC in 2012.

4G, on the other hand, is just starting to become mainstream. My city, Buffalo, just got AT&T 4G coverage this past month, so a new iPhone should have 4G. If it doesn't I'll hold off buying a new phone.
 
kirky29 said:
Ahh nice okay, it would be awesome to see some better battery life!
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Anandtech's tests show improvement in refreshed iPad 2 with 32nm vs. 45nm.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5789/the-ipad-24-review-32nm-a5-tested/2

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Theoretically, the iPhone would improve even more because its display takes up a lesser percentage of overall power consumption compared to the iPad. However, the power gains at 800 MHz from the shrink won't be as drastic as the ones at 1 GHz because the consumption vs. frequency curve isn't linear because they're likely not run at the same nominal voltage.
 
this is hilarious looking at the comments shift from "ohh cant wait for NFC/it will be useful" to... "don't care, waste of space, and could not be bothered"

oh apple fans:rolleyes:
 
mnemonix said:
This tells us nothing about the technology and everything about human nature. Bank notes have been forged and stolen since they were invented too. Perhaps you'd be happier bartering goods and services?
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.?? Just pointing out a fact...nothing more. Chill.
 
o0jelly0o said:
I can tell you right now RAM is everything. The difference between how smooth and fluid the iPhone 4S is compared to iPod Touch 4G is just insane. Not saying it is a selling point, because obviously the average consumer doesn't know a thing but yeah.
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Yea I know it's makes a difference in performance. But it's not a selling point like he said. Consumers have no idea how much ram in is any iOS device. It's a selling point for some people on here maybe....
 
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canucksfan88 said:
this is hilarious looking at the comments shift from "ohh cant wait for NFC/it will be useful" to... "don't care, waste of space, and could not be bothered"

oh apple fans:rolleyes:
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Or it could be people like me who never cared. (feel free to review my past posts)
 
Geckotek said:
Or it could be people like me who never cared. (feel free to review my past posts)
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There's no point. They are dead set on believing that everyone who is rationalizing here are the same ppl who were excited before.

What's funny is no one can provide a single example of such, but say that"everyone" does it.
 
I was looking forward to NFC, still it is only some guy that has said no, not Apple themselves so I have hope still. But I would only use NFC for small value transactions.
This news though also makes e think what IS the iPhone 5 going to have because a lot of phones with next gen CPU and GPU have been announced now.
 
Geckotek said:
There does seem to be a certain mindset that always assumes everyone here is a fanboy.
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And the truth is the true crazy fanboys are such a small minority here. Like microscopically small. But like i said, these ppl feel better about themselves by insulting, generalizing and perpetuating these lies about the macrumors user base.

I've asked three ppl in this thread to provide examples of flip flopping and nary a word from any of them. Quite telling.
 
Doesn't need NFC; it's a very immature, weak technology without any real standards. And NFC is sure not taking off without iPhone support!

Contactless payment solutions are sprouting up all over the place in many other various ways.
 
iWallet

according to the iWallet patent, the chip is in the correct location for a feature similar to NFC.

Apple is trying to distance itself from Google. They are planning on removing the Youtube app from the iPhone, they are replacing Google Maps with Apples own map app. To me, it would only make sense for apple to create their own NFC like system instead of paying licensing fees to Google to use their NFC technology.

If this is correct, then iWallet will take off and be implemented faster(because of the strong following) and therefore become more widely used everywhere and Google Wallet will have to push for their service to become more available for use(due to current lack of NFC readers everywhere).
 

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damir00 said:
I'm confused. As recently as yesterday, folks here were touting how Apple was going to revolutionize the world with NFC.

Now all I read is "no big deal".

What's up with that?
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Can you give me an example of a "folk" who said the one thing yesterday and the other thing today?

Yesterday, when the unverified rumor was that the iPhone would have NFC, the fans of NFC were excited about the possibility. Today, when the unverified rumor is that the iPhone will not have NFC, the NFC foes are speaking up.
 
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