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Nokia and Microsoft Team Up in Smartphone Battle
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It will be a 3 horse race between Apple, HP and Microsoft. Android will become irrelevant pretty quickly.
Seems everyone is trying to mimic Apple's strategy and go vertical by controlling the hardware and the software in order to control the whole user experience. This way they can create an ecosystem and offer something unique to differentiate themselves from the competition. HP has WebOS, RIM has QNX, and Microsoft has Win 7. With the Nokia deal Microsoft seems to be trying to get into hardware. Who know's if an eventual merger is looming in the future.
Google is the only one sticking out like a sore thumb by having Android on as much devices as possible. The horizontal business model worked on the desktop for Microsoft, but is quickly dying. Notice how Microsoft doesn't apply this model to the Xbox and is having success.
What would really be interesting is see HP morph WebOS into a desktop or cloud OS. RIM also has the potential to the same with QNX, but in order to do so they would need to do something crazy like merging or buying out Dell. The competition is really heating up to the point that each will need to do something to stay relevant. Both RIM and Dell are known for business and could leverage this as a selling point along with other strengths.
Its going to be fun to watch!
Seems everyone is trying to mimic Apple's strategy and go vertical by controlling the hardware and the software in order to control the whole user experience. This way they can create an ecosystem and offer something unique to differentiate themselves from the competition. HP has WebOS, RIM has QNX, and Microsoft has Win 7. With the Nokia deal Microsoft seems to be trying to get into hardware. Who know's if an eventual merger is looming in the future.
Google is the only one sticking out like a sore thumb by having Android on as much devices as possible. The horizontal business model worked on the desktop for Microsoft, but is quickly dying. Notice how Microsoft doesn't apply this model to the Xbox and is having success.
What would really be interesting is see HP morph WebOS into a desktop or cloud OS. RIM also has the potential to the same with QNX, but in order to do so they would need to do something crazy like merging or buying out Dell. The competition is really heating up to the point that each will need to do something to stay relevant. Both RIM and Dell are known for business and could leverage this as a selling point along with other strengths.
Its going to be fun to watch!
Seems a bit desperate after all the work they've put in. They say "it's now a 3 horse race" obviously didn't get the memo from HP
The same can be said about Apple and thier followers. Fanboy stupidity shines right through..
Please don't feed the troll.
I just LOVE when students think their campus is the same as the real world! It's not going to be nice if reality ever hits!
(Although this one might have been meant ironically)
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I use Bing all the time... Still, the windows smartphone software is ridiculoysly terrible. Bottom line is *nobody* will *ever* have the array of digital products AAPL has to offer. Right now its a little confusing but AAPL shines the way through, and as the competitors fail, people will be glad yet still that they made the right choice with AAPL all along I don't see why any company even tries to compete... They honestly have no chance.
Ps. Buy AAPL on *any* decline in share price. It is surely going to $450.00 per share.
Preclaro_tipo said:
I use Bing all the time... Still, the windows smartphone software is ridiculoysly terrible. Bottom line is *nobody* will *ever* have the array of digital products AAPL has to offer. Right now its a little confusing but AAPL shines the way through, and as the competitors fail, people will be glad yet still that they made the right choice with AAPL all along
I don't see why any company even tries to compete... They honestly have no chance.Ps. Buy AAPL on *any* decline in share price. It is surely going to $450.00 per share.
Um, going with WP7 is just being another device in a pack of choices...
I'd like to know how big the check was that Ballmer wrote to make this happen.
They must be in Europe? I haven't seen a Nokia phone here (in Canada) in years. In North America it seems to be a three-way (Apple, RIM, Android) race, with Palm trailing behind but still present.
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I hear Nokia's big in Egypt!
gturban said:
I hear Nokia's big in Egypt!
Dont have a chance, Pigs will fly first before MS+Nokia is a concern
2 wrongs do not make a right I think is the way the saying goes.
They could call the new phone sterilization after Gate's views on the population
2 wrongs do not make a right I think is the way the saying goes.
They could call the new phone sterilization after Gate's views on the population
I'm not one of these Mac users who hopes for the failure of any of Apple's competitors but this just seems like such a bad idea. Two companies that are rapidly losing their footing in the new mobile space are hitching themselves together. Reminds me of the Blockbuster/Circuit City merger.
i heard that too. he and elop where in the sauna all day long disguising this subject.
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Desperate Company 1 & 2... So true... LMFAO !!!
*LTD* said:
Desperate Company 1 & 2... So true... LMFAO
!!!It will be a 3 horse race between Apple, HP and Microsoft. Android will become irrelevant pretty quickly.
Seems everyone is trying to mimic Apple's strategy and go vertical by controlling the hardware and the software in order to control the whole user experience. This way they can create an ecosystem and offer something unique to differentiate themselves from the competition. HP has WebOS, RIM has QNX, and Microsoft has Win 7. With the Nokia deal Microsoft seems to be trying to get into hardware. Who know's if an eventual merger is looming in the future.
Google is the only one sticking out like a sore thumb by having Android on as much devices as possible. The horizontal business model worked on the desktop for Microsoft, but is quickly dying. Notice how Microsoft doesn't apply this model to the Xbox and is having success.
What would really be interesting is see HP morph WebOS into a desktop or cloud OS. RIM also has the potential to the same with QNX, but in order to do so they would need to do something crazy like merging or buying out Dell. The competition is really heating up to the point that each will need to do something to stay relevant. Both RIM and Dell are known for business and could leverage this as a selling point along with other strengths.
Its going to be fun to watch!
that's because x-boxes and PS3's are sold at a loss or breakeven and the money is made on the games and x-box live and DLC. there is no one that can make an x-box and sell it at $299 and make a profit
I forgot the keyword - European Carriers.
http://www.winrumors.com/european-carrier-hopes-nokia-opts-for-windows-phone-7-over-android/
I wouldn't call microsoft desperate, they've been doing pretty well recently.
I see Nokia phones all the time in Canada. Fido, Bell, Rogers, Wind and Public Mobile ( IRC ) all sell Nokia phones. I see Nokia phones also in Best Buy and Futureshop plus other cell phone shops. Basically, everywhere.
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Not in love with Nokia now because of how stupid my C3-00 back up phone has been.
But I think Nokia got the short end. Microsoft gets a proven hardware maker, that fanatical following and brand recognition. What does Nokia get? An OS with potential. Nokia had that with Meego. Nokia would have been better served adopting Android or Meego.
IOS, webOS and Android. I don't anybody who could compete against all three of those platforms and do well.
But I think Nokia got the short end. Microsoft gets a proven hardware maker, that fanatical following and brand recognition. What does Nokia get? An OS with potential. Nokia had that with Meego. Nokia would have been better served adopting Android or Meego.
IOS, webOS and Android. I don't anybody who could compete against all three of those platforms and do well.
Who's laughing now?
I still remember how Balmer dismissed the iPhone as it first came out, touting how great the Windows offerings were and that what people wanted. Now, 3 or so years later, both of these giants are out of luck and ideas. I guess arrogance and ignorance played a huge part for them to get as low as they are now. They were foolish not to see the disruptiveness of the Apple iPhone to their business. I agree with the people before me, this is a desperate alliance, however, I hope they get it right and keep the competition fierce. It's good for us, endusers.
I still remember how Balmer dismissed the iPhone as it first came out, touting how great the Windows offerings were and that what people wanted. Now, 3 or so years later, both of these giants are out of luck and ideas. I guess arrogance and ignorance played a huge part for them to get as low as they are now. They were foolish not to see the disruptiveness of the Apple iPhone to their business. I agree with the people before me, this is a desperate alliance, however, I hope they get it right and keep the competition fierce. It's good for us, endusers.
That would be interesting, in light of Nokia's billion dollar lawsuit against Apple for not paying GSM/WiFi patent fees.
Oh boy. The two companies I wouldn't buy a phone of are partnering together. Where is the time that I loved Nokia. That we all loved Nokia.
Now they are just going to get worse by partnering with Microsoft, and Microsoft is going to get more <<we rock>>, if you know what I mean.
And on another note; who the hell wants Bing? The only reason to use Bing is for typing an extravagant term to get results copied from Google.
Now they are just going to get worse by partnering with Microsoft, and Microsoft is going to get more <<we rock>>, if you know what I mean.
And on another note; who the hell wants Bing? The only reason to use Bing is for typing an extravagant term to get results copied from Google.
I also think this is the right move for them - WP7 is actually pretty decent, incredibly beautiful, simple, and highly functional. I prefer iOS, but WP7 definitely has its benefits, and I'd certainly take it over fandroid on form factor alone.
That's not to say it isn't a gamble... but faced with the situation, what would you do? A slipping position in the market, top-notch hardware, but an antiquated OS... developing their own next generation OS would be very costly, and be received as too little too late, becoming another Android manufacturer would likely alienate the vast majority of their customers, and RIM's BB is sinking even faster than they are... HP is unlikely to license WebOS, and in any case WP7 is better and more well received.
They basically had 4 options: 1, keep doing what they're doing (losing), 2, create their own new OS and arrive at the party once it's already over, 3, become an Android manufacturer, 4, partner with Microsoft's WP7, which is actually a pretty good product, not to mention MS can really throw the advertising dollars around, and have proven time and again that when they commit to something, they throw money at it until it works.
The choice is obvious - they made the right one, that's not to say it's guaranteed to work, but it was the only choice they had.
That's not to say it isn't a gamble... but faced with the situation, what would you do? A slipping position in the market, top-notch hardware, but an antiquated OS... developing their own next generation OS would be very costly, and be received as too little too late, becoming another Android manufacturer would likely alienate the vast majority of their customers, and RIM's BB is sinking even faster than they are... HP is unlikely to license WebOS, and in any case WP7 is better and more well received.
They basically had 4 options: 1, keep doing what they're doing (losing), 2, create their own new OS and arrive at the party once it's already over, 3, become an Android manufacturer, 4, partner with Microsoft's WP7, which is actually a pretty good product, not to mention MS can really throw the advertising dollars around, and have proven time and again that when they commit to something, they throw money at it until it works.
The choice is obvious - they made the right one, that's not to say it's guaranteed to work, but it was the only choice they had.
If Apple were a horse, they'd been shot in the face before the turn of the century
Fortunately, Apple managed to keep alive for their revival and their massive turnaround.