What makes you think this will get them money from Apple? More likely it will get them money from Microsoft. There is a long, long tradition of Microsoft competitors being sued for nothing.
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Nokia Hits Back at Apple Again With New ITC Complaint
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What makes you think this will get them money from Apple? More likely it will get them money from Microsoft. There is a long, long tradition of Microsoft competitors being sued for nothing.
I'm all for companies protecting their IP.
However, it seems like Nokia is grasping at straws here since they've been turn down a couple times already.
Also... I really believe that there should be a time limit on when you can sue a company over an infringement when there is a shipping product involved. Waiting until it's wildly successful and then suing is silly. If they cared so much about their IP, they should have sued 4 years ago when the iPhone came out.
However, it seems like Nokia is grasping at straws here since they've been turn down a couple times already.
Also... I really believe that there should be a time limit on when you can sue a company over an infringement when there is a shipping product involved. Waiting until it's wildly successful and then suing is silly. If they cared so much about their IP, they should have sued 4 years ago when the iPhone came out.
Really? Really Nokia? Maybe you should instead stop spending money trying to bring other people down and maybe throw some of that dough into R&D and stop making ****** phones.
It's called licensing. You create/think of a really neat/innovative way of doing something yet you don't have tons of money (or ambition) to actually turn it into a product, market it, sell it, support it, etc.
Lots of patents are created so that the owner can sell/license the patent to vendors/manufacturers/companies who want to use it.
They're waiting for the Windows Phone 7.5 Mango Update before they ship any handsets.
How not to spend money
Nokia annual report and accounts;
Legal Expenses Budget 250 M.
R&D Budget 1 M - sorry R&D guys, spent all the money on lawyers.
Nokia annual report and accounts;
Legal Expenses Budget 250 M.
R&D Budget 1 M - sorry R&D guys, spent all the money on lawyers.
Not at all the same thing. I was okay with the first round of patents by Nokia. But after the ITC rejected their claims, this just looks like horrible sour grapes. If these are legitimate patent violations, why didn't Nokia include them in their first round of claims? This staggered approach (after the failure of their most promising patents) increasingly looks like an attempt by Nokia to harass in hopes of a "stop annoying us" out of court settlement by Apple.
Nokia is only enforcing the legal right to attempt to protect what they consider is misuse of their IP. Let them.
Why does everyone get their knickers in a bunch about this? If they have a case it'll be upheld, if they don't then the court will throw it out. Big deal. Blame litigation happy America if you have to.
EDIT: Oh and to people saying why has it taken so long to bring an action - these corporate matters can take a while to rumble through. Yes, commercial pressures do have an impact on when cases are brought - trust me, it happens an awful lot!
Why does everyone get their knickers in a bunch about this? If they have a case it'll be upheld, if they don't then the court will throw it out. Big deal. Blame litigation happy America if you have to.
EDIT: Oh and to people saying why has it taken so long to bring an action - these corporate matters can take a while to rumble through. Yes, commercial pressures do have an impact on when cases are brought - trust me, it happens an awful lot!
Big difference Nokia is not suing to protect anything they are looking for money and at the same time kissing MS back end. They have nothing but they figure what do they have to loose.
Polaroid meet Nokia; Nokia meet Polaroid.
This is all just such a huge waste of money and resources.
Funny how people are still amazed Nokia is still around. Nokia sells more phones in 1 year than Apple has sold iOS devices PERIOD. Apple sues people to high-hell and back, just as Nokia is doing now. The patent market is a market for cross-licensing and screwing your competition, don't you all realize this just yet? This isn't a act of desperation for money per se, it is an act to hinder a big player. Stop polishing Apple's knob and get some sense out of what these actually lawsuits actually mean and why they are formed.
Also, Nokia is not wasting resources. There is a reason why they using in-house lawyers. They were previously paying their lawyers for doing nothing, now they are doing paying them to do something atleast. So stop with the jokes about being a waste of resources as if anything, they are getting their moneys worth from there stupid lawyers to begin with.
Also, Nokia is not wasting resources. There is a reason why they using in-house lawyers. They were previously paying their lawyers for doing nothing, now they are doing paying them to do something atleast. So stop with the jokes about being a waste of resources as if anything, they are getting their moneys worth from there stupid lawyers to begin with.
Actually, no. There are two defenses to patent infringement called laches and equitable estoppel.
Under equitable estoppel, if Apple relied on the lack of patent enforcement in choosing to continue infringing, Nokia can't suddenly pop up and assert infringement.
Under laches, if Nokia unreasonably and inexcusably delayed bringing suit and Apple is materially prejudiced by the delay, Nokia can't assert infringement.
See, for example, http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/law/troxlerlaches.pdf
Correct. It is the possible infringer's job to make sure they don't infringe.
Nokia sure is a poor loser. Fight back on the marketplace, not the courts. Microsoft threw you a line from their little dingy, grab a hold tight.
The iPhone came out in mid 2007. It's not like Apple gives out their schematics and source code, so it could take a while for Nokia to figure out which patents are being used.
(Just as it took Apple several years to figure out which patents to sue HTC over.)
In this case, Nokia fairly quickly started asking Apple to pay royalties for the wireless technologies they were using. It's Apple that has delayed for years.
That only makes sense for patent holders that want a one-time payment. Nokia licenses their patents per device, and the GSM/WiFi ones probably can't be gotten around, so it matters less when they sue.
And again, Apple's known about many of these patents for years. They apparently would rather rake in the profits now and pay later.
