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Nokia Launches Lumia 925 Advertisement Bashing iPhone Camera

Digital Skunk said:
Splitting hairs if you ask me. But . . . I stand corrected.

Although, with such a statement we are basically committing to an understanding that everything Apple made from 2010 and prior was total garbage.

One caveat is, that I was drawn to Apple when it was at it's worst, and it's products were in fact total crap.
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Not necessarily. A product behind number 1 doesn't make it garbage. The Mac did great things and was less prone to common attacks due to its more secure OS and smaller community of users.

While OS X 10.8 is leaps and bounds better than lets say OS X 10.0, Windows still is the major player in the OS market and outperforms OS X in certain situations.
 
unplugme71 said:
Not sure what the point of this post was other than to list another company that bashes products. :confused:
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Point is to refute whoever thinks Apple doesn't bash, or that bashing doesn't work

Mac vs PC
Galaxy vs Iphone
Pepsi vs Coke
AT&T vs Verizon
BMW vs Mercedes vs Audi

Bashing is everywhere. As long as you don't bash the customer, you're fine. Those Apple Genius ads didn't bash another company but they still failed. Why? Because they bashed the customer
 
Digital Skunk said:
It's to show that you were wrong about your original assessment.
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How was I wrong?

Do Apple's current commercials bash any product? No.

Did Apple's past commercials bash any product? Some did.

This is why I stated 'doing'. There's a big difference between past, present, and future.
 
tigres said:
i always thought it pronounced nOkia {no-Key-ya}
guess I was wrong.
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Not really wrong merely US pronunciation rather than European, the same thing happens with Adidas and Maria Sharopova, if it's any consolation the same thing happens to US names in reverse (Yosemite becomes yossa might, Sepulveda becomes Sepal veeda......).
 
KillerTree said:
I'm happy to see a commercial that shows the true faults of the iPhone versus its competition. The iPhone's low light camera performance is my biggest gripe.
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Performance is one thing, software is another. I've found metering on my 4s to be pitiful - there's no reason why the shutter (which I imagine is electronic) can't be extended when light is low. Sure hand shake becomes an issue, but there's nothing new there.

Performance with these tiny-ass sensors could be significantly better if the pixel-count race madness were abandoned, but unfortunately Joe Consumer mistakenly thinks that 8MP is better than 1MP.
 
Ergonomically speaking, any smartphone camera is awkward to use for amateur or recreational photography whether it is the iphone 5's or Nokia's new 41 mega pixel camera.:rolleyes:
 
djdj said:
Apple certainly does sell more phones than Nokia. And that probably isn't going to change... at least not in the foreseeable future.

The difficulty comes when people automatically make the assumption that because something is used the most/sells the best means that it is the best. A lot of the population will assume that because more pictures are taken on the iPhone than any other smartphone that it somehow must also be the best. Certainly Apple has been okay with this misconception because when given a chance, they will talk about how much better their camera is than the previous generation, or another particular product. A certain segment of the public will take that to mean that the product is the best. When, in this case, that doesn't reflect reality. (Certainly happy Mac owners would not want to accept the belief that somehow because Windows outsells OS X by a wide margin that somehow it is better, but for whatever reason that has happened historically with the iPhone.)

My friends with iPhone 5s seem to all believe that they have fantastic cameras on their phones. (And I think they believe that because Apple has been selling that idea.) That is, until they see pictures coming from my 920. I think they feel a little bit betrayed. They've been lead to believe that they're carrying around great cameras, when in reality the camera in the iPhone 5 are probably the worst of those amongst premier products. Cameras in the Lumia 92x series (certainly the 1020 as well), Galaxy S 4 (maybe S III), and HTC One easily outperform the iPhone in nearly all situations. Yet most iPhone owners aren't aware that they've been sold short. If they don't care, fine... but if they buy an iPhone thinking that they're getting a great camera, a certain amount of disappointment is probably inevitable. And nobody likes to be lied to, even if that deceit is inferred rather than explicit.

It isn't wise for Apple to tout the quality of the iPhone camera when pretty much everything else in its class outperforms it handily. (What would you say to Nokia if they started bragging about how many apps Windows Phone has?) Sooner or later their customers are going to pick up on the fact that they've been misled, and that isn't very good for maintaining a relationship with a customer. Push the real strengths of the product, not its made-up ones.
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iPhone buyers ARE getting a great camera, and for most iPhone buyers it is not only good enough, it is probably better than they need. Every generation of iPhone gets camera improvements. That the Nokia's are superior in this singular feature is noteworthy, but unless it translates to increased sales over the long term, it isn't in itself a viable strategy.

Myself, I find the iPhone and iPad well suited for my workflow in conjunction with my various Nikon's, and prefer the compact design of the iPhone over the buikier Lumias. Your mileage varies.
 
linuxcooldude said:
Can't agree with you there. Its a smartphone. It can do a lot of things well, not necessarily perfect. It has gone a long way in making improvements to the camera and will continue to do so.

People tend to use smartphones to capture pictures when they don't expect too or at the last minute. They are more worried about documenting that point in time rather than quality. And the quality is more than good enough for that.

If they are going to a planned event and want quality they tend to bring more high end cameras before hand.
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Absolutely agree, I know all too well from working in the field. However, mobile electronics companies walk on the edge in marketing their devices. Neither phone is professional grade, however they may still be comparative to one another as they are in the same market. If an iPhone's camera can be improved via a third party accessory so that it may be as good as another smart phone's camera, that's a justified comparison. The products I listed as examples weren't attempts at producing a professional grade camera, but rather improving upon it.
 
In Norway, it is illegal to explicitly call out your competitors in commercials.

I think that makes for more self awareness when making commercials.

I do hate commercials though.
 
Wow those are some impressive comparisons where a marketer takes an image made with $10,000+ of photo equipment makes a copy and reduces the quality using digital manipulation and then compares it to the original image.

I bet several people were misled by watching this.
 
So they use the same location but use an overcast scene for Apple and a bright well lit Sunny day for the Nokia. Shameful
 

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lordofthereef said:
Nokia's issue right now is not not being heard. Plenty of people want to buy their products. The rollouts are what is TERRIBLE. Nearly 50% of all windows phones being sold are Nokia, despite their HORRENDOUS rollouts processes. They constantly don't have supply to meet demand (I am talking a small handful of units at launch). Nobody at any of the stores that sell the product knows anything about it because Nokia doesn't spend the time to educate these salespeople. The list goes on and on. I would expect this from a company in its infancy, but Nokia has been around a long time.
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Certainly they have not been about quality. They are about cheap, low quality and so on. It is getting into the name.
 
At least Nokia educated everyone on how to pronounce their name.

The rest of the ad will fall on deaf ears and will not help them one bit. Their fortunes are tied to the boat anchor that is Windows Phone.
 
iPhone camera is better...

... than that comparison would appear to show.

If that is a real example I would bet that the iPhone's image was edited to produce a poor exposure.;)
 
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