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Thanks Nokia for reminding me of one of the reasons why I'm waiting for the 5S before upgrading my 4S. :D
 
Risky move, Nokia.
Yup, your camera is really good. I like the idea of pixel density that lets you get high quality post processing zoom.
But keep in mind... this is simply a mediocre phone glued onto a pretty decent camera (although one that still doesn't have anything on the iPhone in terms of lens flexibility.) Not a pissing war you really should be getting into.
In addition this number of megapixels creates enormous files. (2, actually... a 5 MP 'little one' for sharing, and a big honkin' one for further editing. How are people going to feel about those memory requirements?
 
A lot of defensive posts. You shouldn't take it so personally.

Nokia have always had very good quality cameras, so don't expect Apple to exceed Nokia in this respect. Apple have to work within a budget - they can't out price their phones, so they go for the next best [ camera ].
 
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sorry 'trad' means traditional - more standard sort of pics which are familiar in photography per-se.

Yep - there is often a lot of editing done on mobile photos (on the device with an app) and many of these would be but its also possible just to get nice shots without using an app or editing at all.

Just trying to provide some comparative examples.
The iPhone is not a Nikon or Canon - not yet anyway.
But that is not the point - the point is that it is possible to get some truly great shots using an iPhone (or a Nokia) if you are a decent photographer.

I feel I'm good enough with an iPhone to be able to forgo a DSLR and the shots I get are great. I'd love some more control and detail etc but that will come in future HW.
This is why I applaud Nokia for the 1020 if in fact it is pushing the bounds of quality in a camera phone.

Great points. I suppose photography is popular today because of the camera phone culture we've established today, which I think is cool if there's a level of passion and decent quality thats comes from it.

I'm still not very confident about capturing something like a "once in a lifetime" trip with my iPhones camera, but maybe in time I will. I certainly won't be buying a Nokia to start.
 
Something I've noticed about you is that you generally tend to ignore the big picture by focusing on the pedantic minutae. You try to win an argument by technicality, not by having a better point.

In other words, you try to ignore the implicit meaning by focusing on (and sometimes reinterpreting) the literal wording to fit your argument. It makes having a discussions with you a bit of a drag, because I have to explain things out in the smallest detail so you won't have a loophole to hook onto.

You're making things up and saying people said things that they didn't.

It's especially funny because in another thread you said all apple users are stuck in the past!
 
Too bad its running Windows i-dont-get-timely-updates-and-lack-basic-functionality Phone 8.

This strategy didn't work for the Surface. I fail to see how it will for WP.
 
"Every day, more photos are taken on the iPhone than any other phone. But at Nokia, we prefer to build for quality, not just quantity."

Nokia don't build for quantity cause they can't sell them.
 
This is one of the few times I think it's worth going on an all out bash and compare advert. The camera in the new Lumia is so good, it could be a selling point in and of itself. Might as well draw attention to what's easily your best feature.

So buy a camera. You can still get a better camera in a camera than a camera in any phone.

One thing they won't talk about is the overall quality of the iPhone camera, its software. In everything but low-light, they're still the best.

If these phones start selling in any serious numbers, I'll pay attention.
 
There are shutterbugs who ARE looking for the best camera possible in their cell phone and perhaps this is the right ad for Nokia. I'm not the guy they're looking for, but I respect their attempt. You have to go with your strengths and maybe this is their only "in". I don't think it's their OS.
 
It's a nice phone. I'm gonna hang onto my Iphone until someone creates one
with a Leica lens. That would be day one purchase for me, unless it's a droid.
 
Strange, everyone else in the world would have said the weakest link of the first iPhone was a lack of Apps.

Ugh, I remember those days. Widgets as apps, no MMS support, no 3G, no video recording, no camera flash and yet it sold so well at $599 unsubsidized it was amazing. Could you imagine that happening today? Selling average mobile devices at full price like hotcakes?
 
Were all the shots taken with the Nokia and iPhone done at the same time using the same lighting conditions? If the lighting conditions were the same, then the comparison, in the ad are fair. I am not suggesting that they weren't as I was not there when they shot the commcerial.
 
I always get a good laugh at these types of comments. This ad, if true, shows the iPhone camera to be inferior, but the loyalists play it down.

I'm no Apple loyalist, but the ad has my BS-meter going off.

First, I take lots of photos with my iPhone and never get such lousy results, even in bad lighting situations. My photos are rarely as washed-out or underexposed as shown in the ad.

Second, I'm a little leery of the last few examples in the ad. How did they manage to take exactly the same photo with both the Nokia and the iPhone to achieve the split-screen comparison effect at the end? Doesn't that raise red flags to you? Looks like a little Photoshop fakery going on in my opinion.
 
RULE NUMBER ONE PEOPLE! BASH APPLE USERS AT ALL COSTS! MAKE THINGS UP IF YOU HAVE TO!

There you go again. Care to show me where I said in this thread that you're a hater or a Samsung troll? Let me guess: "not directly", right?

You're making things up and saying people said things that they didn't.

When you consider all the "Apple hater" and "Samsung Troll" posts that have been posted time and time and TIME again around here, it's easy to lump your response in with all those others. Your reply is one similar to all the others that usually come up in that context.

...but since you or anyone else didn't EXPLICITLY STATE "Apple Hater" or "Samsung Troll" within the thread, you're gonna harp on it like it somehow proves something.

Seriously. It's tiresome. You don't discuss, you don't argue, you make broad claims, then look for the smallest literal detail in someone's response that you can exploit and run with.
 
Maybe it's just me but I don't see a better quality photo from the Nokia. It appears to have slightly less detail. You can always brighten the iphone photo if you like. And who knows what the lighting really looked like to know which is more accurate.
 
Unless you are a professional photographer don't worry about this dumb ad.
Nokia has been beat down. One iPhone replaces every phone in their arsenal. Just one. I remember going to Nokia's website back in the mid 2000s and being overwhelmed by all the phones they sold. And the go to phone of all in Nokia's library was the 3310. A classic. I will give them those props. Respect. But that business model of having 100s of different phones is bs today.
 
Sorry but until someone can squeeze a full frame sensor into a phone, then all this talk about low light ability and super-megapixel cameras just bores me.

For a quick snap shot of the family or a product shot for ebay, a phone pic may do the job. But if you want anything with a decent quality get a DSLR, even a compact or cross over wont do the job properly.
 
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