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They don’t create good phones though. From the LG G2X to the LG G4 to the V10 to the G6 to the V30, all have had some sort of problems like boot loops, P-OLED issues, poor software, etc. LG’s reputation is so bad that they had to make 2 year warranties with the G6. The Nexus 5X had bootloop issues and LG got sued. People succeeded again LG in court or arbitration.

LG would’ve been better off starting from scratch, pricing around the same level as the OnePlus 5T, support their phones long-term, and win more customers with pure Android software.

You don’t have to give 5 years of support (Apple) or have the best specs (Samsung) to earn more customers.
You're naming some phones that I really loved and never had issues with: G2, V10 and V20. I know many had issues with them but the majority of owners of LG phones who happen to be happy with them aren't going to get the same publicity since there's no outrage.

Even with LG's class action case, if they think it viable to keep on producing mobile phones, I'm all for it. It's like why does Mitsubishi still even make cars :p.
 
Correcting me would have been saying, "No, in fact, Motorola sells more versions." Instead you went on a tangent. Nevermind the fact that you can't correct how someone feels.
You can believe whatever you want, but its relevance is zero when you look how well the strategy is working.

You're including colors and storage sizes to build your thesis. These are minor differences. It's like saying BMW sells 1,000,000+ models because you can get heated seats, no heated seats, back up camera, sports package, upgraded speakers, leather, no leather, black paint, white pant, blue paint, and any combination of those options.

Essentially, BMW sells a few cars with A LOT if different configurations. Apple, same thing. Don't make it sound so complicated.
 
I don't have any usage experience with the X, beyond playing around with one in the store, but to my eye the LG looks better since it has a thicker bottom bezel to balance out the notch.
you dont know how to see symmetry then. How does having a space at the bottom balance out the notch. When the Edges around the notch go to the edges of the phone. This phone is not symmetrical at all.
 
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The ish is this....just when I thought I'd seen it all. If I was copying a feature, this is surely one I would stay away from. Just from initial glance this phone is a blatant ripoff of the iPhone's aesthetics.
 
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you dont know how to see symmetry then. How does having a space at the bottom balance out the notch. When the Edges around the notch go to the edges of the phone. This phone is not symmetrical at all.

The only one mentioning symmetry is you; and the X does not have vertical symmetry anyway. A chin gives the phone better visual balance since the majority of the top is not screen.
 
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You're naming some phones that I really loved and never had issues with: G2, V10 and V20. I know many had issues with them but the majority of owners of LG phones who happen to be happy with them aren't going to get the same publicity since there's no outrage.

Even with LG's class action case, if they think it viable to keep on producing mobile phones, I'm all for it. It's like why does Mitsubishi still even make cars :p.

LG made some decent concepts. I’ll admit that. Removable batteries in the V10 and V20? Sure. But the G5 was a disaster. Putting in a 821 for the US and a 600 series processor in Brazil confused me. Adding a Quad Dac in another area with the G6 didn’t make sense since the US got wireless charging in a trade off.

I want LG to be viable because competition is good. I doubt I can even use Samsung now myself because they don’t handle software support well. It’s either HTC, OnePlus, or Google Pixel for me as my next device.
 
You can believe whatever you want, but its relevance is zero when you look how well the strategy is working.

You're including colors and storage sizes to build your thesis. These are minor differences. It's like saying BMW sells 1,000,000+ models because you can get heated seats, no heated seats, back up camera, sports package, upgraded speakers, leather, no leather, black paint, white pant, blue paint, and any combination of those options.

Essentially, BMW sells a few cars with A LOT if different configurations. Apple, same thing. Don't make it sound so complicated.
Thanks for the permission to believe that Apple sells too many different versions of the iPhone – an opinion I am far from alone in believing. I was really counting on your approval to make it through my day.

I fully realize my relevance to what Apple does is zero, but I made no comment on how well the strategy was working. I'm not sure how else to tell you that.

I'll continue my conversation with the person I responded to if he or she would like, but I'm done with you.
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This phone is not symmetrical at all.
Well, that's not true. (;

EDIT: On second glance, you're right. It's allllmost symmetrical along the vertical axis.
 
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LG is today unveiling its newest flagship smartphone, the LG G7 ThinQ, at an event in New York City. Before the new device's debut, MacRumors had a chance to go hands-on with it, and we thought we'd compare it to Apple's flagship smartphone, the iPhone X.

You see, the G7 ThinQ is the first smartphone with an iPhone X-style front notch from a well-known manufacturer that sells devices in the United States. So how does the G7 ThinQ measure up to the iPhone X? Read on and watch the video to find out.


Other companies like Essential, Huawei, and Chinese manufacturers have previously launched smartphones with notch designs, but LG's newest device is the highest-profile smartphone to get a notch, and it's the first notched device that's going to be widely available in stores aside from the iPhone X.

Because of the notch included at the top, LG's G7 ThinQ looks quite similar to the iPhone X. As is the style these days, it features a glass and aluminum body, a smaller form factor, minimal bezel, and a 6.1-inch display that's nearly edge to edge.

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Unlike Apple, LG hasn't quite mastered maximizing screen space. While the bottom of the iPhone X has no bezel, there's a small chin on the G7 ThinQ. And, of course, at the top of the G7 ThinQ is the infamous notch, which allows LG to get more vertical screen space while still including front-facing camera equipment.

The LG G7 ThinQ has a smaller notch than the iPhone X, and that's because the notch isn't doing quite as much. The iPhone X notch houses the entire TrueDepth camera system that enables the secure Face ID biometric authentication that Apple uses, and the G7 doesn't have an equivalent feature.

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Sure, there's a front-facing camera and an option to use face unlock, but it's not the secure 3D-based facial recognition Apple uses - instead, it's much less secure and can be used solely for unlocking the smartphone rather than verifying mobile payments or replacing passwords.

LG did do something with the notch that Apple didn't - rather than forcing customers to embrace the design, LG gives customers the option to turn off the notch and hide it within a more traditional status bar.

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LG's ThinQ G7 is a decent Android device that has a premium look and feel and many of the features expected of flagship devices: a fingerprint sensor, 16-megapixel dual cameras, a dedicated assistant button (for summoning Google Assistant), water resistance, an AI camera feature to improve photos, and a powerful processor.

As with most smartphones, the question of whether it's "better" than the iPhone X largely comes down to ecosystem preference. Those who enjoy the openness and customization available on the Android platform will prefer the G7 ThinQ to the iPhone X, while those who are committed to Apple's ecosystem will see the iPhone X as the better device.

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What do you think of the G7 ThinQ's notched design and the overall trend toward embracing the notch as a way to maximize screen real estate? Let us know in the comments. Stay tuned to MacRumors because we'll have a detailed comparison of the G7 ThinQ camera and the iPhone X camera coming.

Article Link: Notch vs. Notch: LG's New G7 ThinQ Compared to iPhone X

What type of company names their flagship product something as kitschy as “ThinQ” in 2018?!
 
What do you think of the G7 ThinQ's notched design and the overall trend toward embracing the notch as a way to maximize screen real estate?

My guess is that the notch was Apple's way of drawing so much attention to a minor flaw that it became a design element. I'd be surprised if Apple keeps the notch one release longer than is necessary, and am amused that at least some other vendors are putting notches in when they're not necessary for their design.

That's not to say I dislike the notch as a compromise, but I do think it's a compromise.
 
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The only one mentioning symmetry is you; and the X does not have vertical symmetry anyway. A chin gives the phone better visual balance since the majority of the top is not screen.
As the person I quoted said "I don't have any usage experience with the X, beyond playing around with one in the store, but to my eye the LG looks better since it has a thicker bottom bezel to balance out the notch."
This is talking about symmetry. balancing out the notch.
The iPhone has better symmetry then this phone. This phone would have better symmetry if it left a gap at the top instead of going to the edge. The way apple did it looks better. The notch is worse but the symmetry in the corners is perfect.
this phone has no symmetry at all.
 
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Uh, folks.
You DO remember that LG is supposed to be supplying iPhone displays next year, right?
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LG hasn't intended their smartphones to make a lot of profit for years. Instead, they mostly make and sell them to show off their technology.
I think this is mostly practice for supplying Apple later on.

That's... actually a good point.
 
As the person I quoted said "I don't have any usage experience with the X, beyond playing around with one in the store, but to my eye the LG looks better since it has a thicker bottom bezel to balance out the notch."

This is talking about symmetry. balancing out the notch.
The iPhone has better symmetry then this phone. This phone would have better symmetry if it left a gap at the top instead of going to the edge. The way apple did it looks better. The notch is worse but the symmetry in the corners is perfect.

this phone has no symmetry at all.

Visual balance and symmetry are two different things.

The phone's is horizontally, but not vertically symmetrical.
 
Had the X since launch and I don't understand people's hate for the notch. The only time I ever even think about it is when I am reading MR posts.

In everyday use, I never notice it, it doesn't mess up any apps that I use.

It's necessary to enable cutting-edge, awesome capabilities. Eventually, the tech will allow it to be smaller or hidden, just like how bezels needed to be there until the tech was advanced.

This all reminds me of when I was a child and wouldn't try asparagus because it looked funny. Lucky for me that my dad talked me into it as I love it now and never think about how it looks.
 
I mean, Google, is trying with their new phones, but you rarely see any in the wild.
I guess it really matters which group you hang out with. All I see is Pixel 2 XLs and iPhone X's. Everything else is considered "bloatware trash" (not my words, but I agree as I have reviewed and owned MANY smartphones).
 
These companies are competing to make the notch smaller and smaller until there is no notch. Notch is a solution in search of a problem.
 
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