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This is why I laugh at people jailbreaking their iPhones, at any time AT&T can find out and take whatever action they want.

No they can't. Once you buy a phone it is legally yours. You can do whatever you want to it. You can throw it in a blender. You can unlock it. You can jailbreak it. AT&T only has control over their network -- not your phone. It's your device. Now they can charge you a sh*t load if you tether it against your agreement if they can somehow prove that you violated your contract but other than that AT&T has no recourse.
 
If AT&T was smart, they would develop their own tethering application and sell it for $30 bucks on the appStore.

They would see immediate (but minor) up front revenue from the tens of thousands of folks that would purchase the app, and it would further tie and cement the relationship between AT&T and their customers.

Why they continue this dance on egg-shells approach baffles me.

I used to use my MacBook Pro tethered to my Blackberry with no problems and unlimited access. Granted it was a little difficult to get setup, but for gods sake AT&T has an opportunity to take the cake as a fantastic wireless provider.

WaTF are they waiting for?

What are they waiting (in my best whine) ...MMMMOOOOONNNNNEEEEEEYYYYY
 
tethering not an extra fee from AT&T

as someone who just switched to iPhone 3G from an AT&T Tilt (the HTC monstrosity, which, by the way, is the WORST PHONE EVER)....

There were many ways to tether with the tilt. USB cable and Bluetooth... and the "internet connection sharing" panel is built into winMobile 6. So, it's not an issue with AT&T as far as I can tell... The ability to tether was the main reason I got the Tilt in the first place.

What a bad idea that was... the Tilt is a terrible phone... and that's because it's not a phone! It's a PDA with phone-like capabilities. AT&T should pull these things off of the shelf, send the hardware back to HTC (and tell them it's half baked) and then send their winMobile license back to M$ (and tell them it's ugly and broken).
 
Not Cool!!!

:D MAaaaan, they really screwed it up again. Yes, letting their people down, us faithful Mac users. Why did they pull out the App. are they scared of AT&T. Come on, we all know they control their supposed contract. What, they are going to cancel, YEAH RIGHT. People will just go to other providers and get the iPhone from them, actually, if they do that, they would really sell a sh&t load of phones, not that they are not already doing that.

So, my thought is that Apple is just trying too hard to be nice to other people rather than being nice to their faithful customers.:mad:

Come on Mac People, other cell phone companies let you tether their phones, why not with our iPhones. We do pay a lot of money and it sometimes seems that we are not getting our moneys worth.:eek:
 
Cute app, but someone was sleeping on the job at Apple when they let it through. No doubt they've received a good kick up the arse for it too.


The developer didn't break the agreement implicitly, so I doubt we'll see any recourse against them. But they didn't meet the guidelines for acceptance which (in brief) state you have to be nice and not put a strain on the carrier's network.

Apple failed to uphold their responsibility in this case and stop an app going out that breaks the agreement they have with the operators, so it's their naughty. However that does also mean the devs won't get any favours for helping them embarrass themselves... :p

All in all, quite enlightening. Wonder if we'll see some porn slipping through? :)
 
Come on Mac People, other cell phone companies let you tether their phones, why not with our iPhones. We do pay a lot of money and it sometimes seems that we are not getting our moneys worth.:eek:

So easy for a raving mob of self-righteous technophiles to forget that Apple is the first company to FORCE carriers unto giving you unmetered mobile data.

There was no thread whining about this subject until now: Seriously, get a grip and be thankful you all have food on the table!
 
:D MAaaaan, they really screwed it up again. Yes, letting their people down, us faithful Mac users. Why did they pull out the App. are they scared of AT&T. Come on, we all know they control their supposed contract. What, they are going to cancel, YEAH RIGHT. People will just go to other providers and get the iPhone from them, actually, if they do that, they would really sell a sh&t load of phones, not that they are not already doing that.

So, my thought is that Apple is just trying too hard to be nice to other people rather than being nice to their faithful customers.:mad:

Come on Mac People, other cell phone companies let you tether their phones, why not with our iPhones. We do pay a lot of money and it sometimes seems that we are not getting our moneys worth.:eek:

thumbsup. It seems to me that should be standard. We have 3G now. Tethering is easy. Just let it happen.
 
Wow, if this had been for real and it truly provided unlimited data I would have seriously considered getting an iPhone and canceling my DSL and just using an iPhone for my internet connection.
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This is the exact reason why AT&T and other carriers have no choice but to prohibit tethering and/or cap the data usage. :rolleyes:
 
Ok folks, let's see. If you go to your account on your AT&T page, and go to the feature upgrade page you get this:

Blackberry Feature Without Messaging
BlackBerry® Personal with tethering $60.00 Select Feature


What makes you think they are going to let us iPhone users do this for free for $30 bucks a month when they are charging Blackberry users $60 a month to have a tethering data plan on their Crackberry?

Sorry, but someone really screwed up. I really don't want everyone in the world tethering their iPhone anyway, it will congest the network so much that I won't even be able to make phone calls with my phone.
 
So easy for a raving mob of self-righteous technophiles to forget that Apple is the first company to FORCE carriers unto giving you unmetered mobile data.

There was no thread whining about this subject until now: Seriously, get a grip and be thankful you all have food on the table!
Where did you get that idea from? All of AT&Ts PDA/smartphone data plans are unlimited.

People are acting as if AT&T have never dealt with smartphones, PDAs and 3g before. There'll be people telling us that Apple invented 3g next. :rolleyes:
 
Don't give up that home connection just yet

Wow, if this had been for real and it truly provided unlimited data I would have seriously considered getting an iPhone and canceling my DSL and just using an iPhone for my internet connection.

Not sure how much data I use per month. Including game demos (which tend to be 500MB-1.5GB range) it's probably around 10GB/month but that's just a random guess...

3G speeds are great for tasks on the iPhone or for tethering to your computer to check e-mail and do light surfing. However, for any significant activity (ex: gaming, downloads, movie streaming, etc.), 3G would be unbearable. I know from personal experience. :(
 
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no way they can do that, they sold me something, I bought it fair and square, I didn't steal it from them...if they delete it from my computer, that's means they just hacked on to MY computer and deleted something without my permission, which I'm pretty sure is against the law..but who knows, America is changing these days....

If I recall correctly, Apple snatched the Aurora Feint application right off of some iPhones when they removed it from the iTunes store for security violations.

Mark
 
The developer didn't break the agreement implicitly, so I doubt we'll see any recourse against them. But they didn't meet the guidelines for acceptance which (in brief) state you have to be nice and not put a strain on the carrier's network.

Not actually.. since the connection is uses proxy through the iPhone, therefore.. the connection will be limited to what data throughput the phone is capable of. So, Safari should use just as much bandwidth as Safari on iPhone.

However, the only detail the developer may have overlooked, is ensuring that certain ports and protocols that are bandwidth and connection hungry do not get through. Such as... bittorrent, and VoIP apps (which I think Apple has specifically said is NOT to be done). But tethering by itself is not a strain on the network. If done right, this would be something I'd be willing to pay a little extra a month for, or a lot as a one-time-buy.

It does make me a bit sad though, since a friend of mine uses his sprint phone (not a smart phone) to tether for an extra $10 a month, and he DOES use both bittorrent and Video chatting successfully.
 
Cute app, but someone was sleeping on the job at Apple when they let it through. No doubt they've received a good kick up the arse for it too.


The developer didn't break the agreement implicitly, so I doubt we'll see any recourse against them. But they didn't meet the guidelines for acceptance which (in brief) state you have to be nice and not put a strain on the carrier's network.

Apple failed to uphold their responsibility in this case and stop an app going out that breaks the agreement they have with the operators, so it's their naughty. However that does also mean the devs won't get any favours for helping them embarrass themselves... :p

:)

This is the kind of post I was talking about - Clearly this poster views this app as doing something wrong and feels that he has to defend the virtues of Apple and AT&T.
 
interesting developments for sure. I'm curious, what would you guys pay extra per month to get tethering working with unlimited data?

I'd probably pony up another $30 for a working app that didn't disconnect when the iPhone went into sleep mode.

right now I'm paying $59 for unlimited data on my 3G air card but would like to do away with that cost if I can rip from the iPhone's connection. though I understand that ATT would lose out in my case were they to offer tethering for around $30...but...I think overall a decent amount of non-corporate folks would sign-up for the service and far and away make up for any losses in Air card revenues.

we'll see...
 
Hah yes! I'm so glad I grabbed this app from the App Store before it got taken down. So worth the $10 :D
 
One thing I'm really curious about though....

It has been removed from the store, but unlike Aurora Feint, it has not been removed from anyone's phone yet (that we know about). Perhaps it's just having a second look at by Apple because this apps "touchy" nature?

(any thoughts on this?)
 
has anybody got the app and tethered successfully?

and how will at&T know you tethered?
 
AT&T specifically was addressing P2P people. They aren't after the casual tetherers.
But I do agree, that people need to use it with care. Abuse is the fastest way to make AT&T clamp down on things which is what's going on with the P2P people.

Let this be a warning of caution.

Why do I bother? People are going to abuse it anyway and ruin it for all of us.

what do you mean abuse if i tether i would only check some websites and maybe youtube! is that considered abuse?
 
1. AT&T clearly has no problem with tethering if it can be done with other phones.

2. Apple shouldn't mind this app since it's one more way to generate revenue.

The only reasonable expanations seem to be:

1. There is an issue w/ AT&T since they seem to charge extra for tethering on other smartphones.

2. This whole thing is just some sort of mix up and the app just got pulled temporarily for some reason.

I'm leaning towards 2 since I can't imagine nobody at apple would have known what this app was for before releasing it.
 
DullRiver!

While I respect the programs NullRiver puts out their tech support really bites! I purchased the killer app "Tuner" from them and loved the shear amount of stations they had, even police scanners. They released an update that made it sound as if they did a better job with the app and true, it was easier to navigate but most of the stations where gone! Where a search for scanners had over 100 hits before there are now zero. At least the one station I bookmarked still works.

I emailed them and never heard back from them. I think they are saying if you are looking for support for what you paid for, look elsewhere.
 
Explaination

The 3G has only been out since July 11th so how could you have an average monthly usage? If you have used 7GB since July 11th, I have to ask you, what are you doing?
The way im calculating it is if I take my average daily use and multiply it by 30! For example, this week (its Friday morning here and i reset my usage calculator on Monday morning) My data usage is:
Sent: 300MB (400 by the end of the week)
Received: 1Gb (1.3GB by the end of the week because I don't get as many emails during the weekend)

This does include hammering my phone for web, youtube, maps and other social networking apps, AIM, Email, and basically all of my other apps that I use daily.

Anybody know what an average computer user uses in data monthly? If ATT told you that you could tether with any app as much as you wanted for an additional $10 a month, would it be worth it...?
 
For those with the idea that you own your iPhone 3G: keep in mind the word subsidized. You don't own your phone outright until you have finished your two year contract or you pay the penalty for breaking contract or you purchased it at the unsubsidized price. Also keep in mind you signed something when joining ATT and agreed to follow their AUP.
 
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