They'll need to get rid of the trash can design or redesign the iMac to accept it.
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Nvidia Debuts New High-End Titan Xp Graphics Card With Mac Support
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They'll need to get rid of the trash can design or redesign the iMac to accept it.
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Nope. Running a GPU externally throttles the potential performance of your graphics card due to bandwidth limitations. This is why Dell uses a proprietary connector rather than Thunderbolt 3. The weaker performance also comes at a higher sticker price - external GPU enclosures can run hundreds of dollars. For MacBooks, even with the GPU tasks offloaded, overheating can be a problem in demanding games. For iMacs... well... you can't use its screen for gaming on your eGPU so you'll need another monitor; not that it has proper cooling either. And for older model Mac Pros, they have slower buses and often not enough mounting space for the large new cards.
Sure, you can game on a Mac, but it still isn't practical.
-Owner of Mac Pro and a *separate* Windows gaming rig.
You'd be surprised how many of us are still running the "old" Mac Pro with Nvidia cards.
Almost half of those you cited are from Blizzard, which admittedly has had a very good track record of supporting Mac for its IPs. Many of those are legacy IPs, though. WoW is over a decade old, and SC2 not far behind. Not what I'd consider new, nor are they very graphics intensive (WoW for example is a very CPU-bound game).
But even Blizzard decided not to support Mac with its popular Overwatch, last I knew.
I suppose at the end of the day, it's not really a huge issue for Mac users, as they can just use Parallels and run Windows 10 to play the latest games. You'd think Apple wouldn't encourage that, though.
yes, but the current mac pro has only TB2 support...so i guess you cant use eGPU,right?
Could I use that Akitio TB3 enclosure w/ a TB3->TB2 adapter, and mate it to a Mac Pro 6,1? I realize total throughput would be limited to something <20Gbps.
You don't. It's more for hackintoshes until the new Mac Pro redesign comes out next year. You could also use a Thunderbolt 3 eGPU enclosure but with some performance loss. You've been able to do that with the 9xx line of cards for ever. The only thing new here is the drivers are updated for the new 10xx line of cards.
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No gamer would play "the latest games", i.e. graphically-demanding, on Parallels. Huge performance hit and lots of rendering bugs for some titles. Just set your Mac up to dual-boot with Windows.
My game machine has a GTX 1080 and I have a drive with OS X on it when I want to make it Hackintosh. It works with the default drivers but you get no acceleration and it is limited to 1080. The current Web Drivers don't work and it always falls back to default.
With this card, we will be getting web drivers for the 10xx series. I'm excited to see how my machine works with the 4K monitor running in HiDPI mode with that driver.
Wow, nice. This is huge for developers using Unity and C4d - presently even with a 4GB card things get choppy.
Great news!
Great news!
Apple also said yesterday they realize users want to be able to swap part sites out and they'll work to help them.
People who think the cMPs are not capable machines are obviously not owners. I have the newest iMac with the fastest processor and my 5,1 is still faster. Granted, not all the functionality, but if you have a cMP with 12 cores, it will handle most anything you can throw at it, even after 7 years.
Thunderbolt (3) is a direct interconnet to the PCI-E bus, and offers many of the benefits of PCI-E in an external plug. Carries up to 40Gbps (5GBytes/s)
this is enough for most GPU's. Even the current 1080p does not fully saturate a 16x PCI-E lane. Many tests hvae been done (here's one link for example) where, while there IS some performance difference, ultimately, even a GTX 1080 performance nearly the same regardless if it's x4, x8, or x16 lanes available. (on at least PCI-E2.0)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_PCI_Express_Scaling/
So, for gaming at least, External PCI-E thunderbolt 3 is fine.
Don't know (can't speak for) Compute usage such as rendering et al, so this doesn't speak to that
Agreed, mine has been an amazing machine. I have begun to have some issues that I think might be motherboard related. Maybe I'll replace it, but after so many years it's tough to dump money in, especially when I'm unsure whether it's the issue.
By my testing, my overclocked 7700K gaming machine is just now even with or slightly faster than my 6 core MP when doing encoding and such with CPU.
Anyways back on topic, this is great news for Mac owners. People commenting on price need to take a step back. The original Pascal Titan X wasn't the full GP102 GPU die, as 2 of the 30 SMs were disabled for yield purposes. That reduced the total number of processors from 3840 to 3584. Tesla P100 was the same I believe. Geforce 1080Ti takes the reduction a step further by keeping the SMs the same as the previous Titan X, but disabling 1 ROP and some L2 cache, and trimming the memory interface from 384 bit to 352 bit (due to ROP change). There were memory changes too, but those were the architecture particulars. The 1080Ti would up being a bit faster than the old Pascal Titan X due to clock speed bumps.
This new Titan Xp is simply the whole GP102 die enabled, so they are finally using the accumulate chips that were capable of running with no components disabled. Of course these are going to demand a price premium. Besides, people have been paying for diminishing returns on all kinds of goods forever.
Mac and Hack users everywhere are rejoicing today.
No, Metal doesn't compare to DX12 or Vulcan for 3D gaming. It's not even in the same ballpark.
It's amazing news for Hackintosh users, but also good news for future MacPro users. I imagine that if anyone is going to have an idea of what Apple is bringing to the table, it's nVidia. So it gives us a hint that the next MacPro will support PCIe cards again.
Also keep in mind that there are Thunderbolt 2 and 3 PCIe adapters that let you hook up a GPU externally (albeit with a loss of power due to bandwidth, but what ever you hook up will still blow away the interstates GPU.)
3D Animation
Video editing
Compositing
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Game development
Scientific apps
Other Cuda / open cl apps
Lol, older mac support, like the aluminum tanks that was Apple last "real" pro product, and I doubt they will work on them because of power supply requirements.
In theory thunderbolt 3 should allow for an external GPU box, like Alienware and Razer laptops support, but that might require innovation on behalf of Apple.
In theory thunderbolt 3 should allow for an external GPU box, like Alienware and Razer laptops support, but that might require innovation on behalf of Apple.