Nvidia GT 650M on rMBP actually better than Nvidia GTX 660M!

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by luigi.lauro, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Zeov macrumors 6502a

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    i'm running all sorts of games, WoW, BF3, crysis 2 etc, 1080p or 1920x1200 (to fill out the whole screen) looks just as good as my friends laptop with same specs.

    i don't think theres any doubt that 2880x1800 looks better.. but thats not a resolution for a laptop gaming so thats kinda useless to discuss since it's not playable (60+ frames)

    i have my real world comparisons, and for me a full HD laptop and the retina macbook pro at 1080p or 1200P is just as good.
     
  2. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    Uh, look at my sig, I've had one since a week after launch. You must comparing it against the usually craptastic PC laptop screens, against the better IPS screens like
    HP radiance, the scaled res on win7 has that scaled 'fuzzy' look.
     
  3. Anician macrumors member

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    So much of the discussion here is on the performance gains from the overclocked 650M on the rMBP. I'm receiving my 2.6GHz cMBP in a week or so and I'm still considering whether I should tinker with the overclock.

    1. I'd like to know if the rMBP is less likely to overheat than the cMBP due to its redesigned cooling structure.

    2. Does anyone know if the 650M on the cMBP has already been overclocked by Apple like in the rMBP?

    Thanks!
     
  4. PCWebbJR macrumors member

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    Getting more and more excited for my rMBP to arrive! :D
     
  5. terraphantm macrumors 68040

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    In Win 7 you need to run it at 2880x1800 to keep everything crisp. But setting the UI to 150% keeps most things readable (though some apps aren't rendered quite right).

    OSX is a different story. The scaled modes for the most part look better than other IPS displays with the same native resolution. I know 1680x1050 on my rMBP looks better than my native 1680x1050 IPS display.
     
  6. AZREOSpecialist macrumors 68000

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    Huh? Who the hell is talking about Windows 7? My god are you really this challenged? You don't run Windows 7 on the Retina MBP (where no drivers exist in the Windows world to properly support the Retina display), compare it to a Windows laptop with a regular screen, and say the Retina looks fuzzy. Is your IQ that low?
     
  7. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    We're talking about GAMES here man, GAMES. Which all run 20-50% better in Win7 vs. OSX on my rMBP. I'm just stating, it's quite obvious when you're running a non-native res on any full screen game. Even D3 which is supposedly retina-ready does not up-scale and then down-scale like it does in OSX when running a non-native resolution. I never claimed that it looks better win Win7, I was just comparing how let's say, BF3 looks at 1080p on a 1080p windows laptop vs. BF3 running at 1080p on a rMBP. BTW, it's not a driver problem why win7 doesn't look that great on the rMBP, Nvidia's win7 and win8 drivers fully support rMBP resolution, it's just win7/win8 don't scale all that well compared to OSX. (This is also debatable as some things look better on win7 vs osx when running at full 2880 resolution)
     
  8. leman macrumors 604

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    There is a large number of rMBP owners who successfully run Windows 7 on the rMBP, and yes, the drivers properly support the 2880x1800 resolution :rolleyes:
    You can also check out the Anandtech's review, where he shows rMBO running windows.


    So what's your point, again?
     
  9. pragmatous macrumors 65816

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    1) I have no over heat issues other than your standard "warmness" when playing games. I don't have performance issues either.

    2) Honestly you should build yourself a gaming rig. Anandtech has stated that the difference between the rMBP and the cMBP is negligible. Probably has to do with one having an SSD and the other one doesn't.

    If your laptop does overheat then yes it'll perform slower because it's throttled. Just get a laptop cooler and it'll stop throttling.

    Does that justify an extra 500 dollars for a rMPB on experimental designs? No. Skip first gen tech wait for next upgrade. At least thats what I'm doing.

     
  10. Doggonit macrumors regular

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    I just installed Windows 7 Pro x64:

    Am I best off (stability/performance wise) sticking to the 296.49 Nvidia drivers that come stock with the Bootcamp Windows Support package or should I upgrade to the latest stable (unstable/beta???) Nvidia drivers?

    If so, where do I get them (with the custom .inf or whatever)?
     
  11. BlazednSleepy macrumors 6502a

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    Stick with the 296 drivers.
     
  12. Anician macrumors member

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    Thanks for your answer. I've wanted to build a desktop for gaming purposes for quite a while now, but I move about quite frequently and it's just not a feasible option at the moment.

    Do you have a laptop cooler too? I've thought of buying them but I'm skeptical as to how effective they will work due to the MBP air vents being at the back and not at the bottom.
     
  13. Doggonit macrumors regular

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  14. doh123 macrumors 65816

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    Cooling the bottom does help, as it conducts a lot of heat.
     
  15. AZREOSpecialist macrumors 68000

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    To those who think the RMBP has UI lag, choppiness, or otherwise can't handle it's new Retina Display, check out this video:

    http://youtu.be/Dudx1GhHGiY

    I recorded it this morning. You'll notice smooth scrolling of theVerge.com and Facebook - two sites that people say are problematic. All while playing three videos - two on the main screen and one full-screen 1080p on a separate desktop. Switching spaces - smooth as butter. Mission control - smooth and fluid. Scrolling - smooth as pie.

    If people are having scrolling/lag issues, I suggest they troubleshoot their systems because this is clearly not a hardware issue - if it were, I would be experiencing the same thing. I am not.
     
  16. BlazednSleepy macrumors 6502a

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    That video shows the lag on the verge and Facebook. It's just a little choppy. No big deal. I've seen beast PC's show choppiness with those websites.
     
  17. AZREOSpecialist macrumors 68000

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    I guess we each have different definitions, since the scrolling of those two websites for me is perfectly normal and I can't tell the difference from any of my other Macs.
     
  18. ivoruest macrumors 6502

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    I was wondering if overclocking the Radeon HD 6770M on the 2011 MBP to similar clocks like the cMBP 2012 (GT 650M) will balance performance to par the newer card? Is there much of a difference other than clock speed?

    Will it run stable? Anyone tried this on Win7?

    2011 MBP: Core/Memory (675/800)
    2012 cMBP: Core/Memory (810/1000)
     
  19. hellstorm12345 macrumors newbie

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    The 650m is about 60-70% faster than the 6770m. You would need a very hefty and likely unstable overclock to reach the stock speeds of the 650m.
     
  20. Persian-apple macrumors regular

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    Can any one say where can I get nvidia geforce gt650 drivers for mac

    Does any one know a link that shows the drivers of nvidia gforce gt650 lastest windows 7drivers give a link please Im from iran and can speak english a little good please dont speak to hard I like to under stand
     
  21. Persian-apple macrumors regular

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    Are you sure that it is a beta driver for Mac book pro retina if yes please tell me how did you find it?and say if I update my driver will I have any problems I am waiting for my rMBP did you test max Payne 3 on it?it needs GT480 of nvidia geforce and 3gb ram and 35gb of HDD what a heavy game!! Can it handle that and please tell me is that real batman at ham city crashes?
     
  22. Libertine Lush, Aug 17, 2012
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    There's a really detailed discussion (benchmarks) on the 304.79 and a driver in the works for the 650M in this thread:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15358245&postcount=24
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15369799&postcount=29

    And details on the 305.58 driver speculated to be coming out on the 21st:
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15455706&postcount=42
     
  23. Doggonit macrumors regular

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    Many thanks! Much obliged!
     
  24. Persian-apple macrumors regular

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    I am talking abou MacBook pro retina lastest beta drivers give a down load link please tell me did you test it thanks for reading this

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    Does anyone read my posts please answer I need them 309.74Beta drivers for GT650 for rMBP does the driver solves gaming problems?give a download link and don't speak too hard only a link and a few sentences that a Persian can understand unfortunately we have filtering websites here and nvidia.com is filtered by peyvandha.ir I should use a private browsing application. What a awful ll ll ll country and please helpppppppppp for the driiiiver
     

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