NVIDIA Powered MacBooks on October 14th?

[Loustic75]

So:

- If we do not hear about some Invitations tomorrow,
- Or if there is not renforcement of a release rumor by tomorrow...(A guy from one of the main retailers chain here in France told that normaly they get the info from Apple one week before release...)

Then we will have to wait...again, cause tomorrow is just one week before the 14th....hope it won't be too long...not sure we will still have money soon

Damn I badly need my first Mac : )
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[jufjo]

The reason you would need, or want, wireless USB in a notebook is specifically BECAUSE it is a notebook. I'm not a fan of wires. Period. If I could, I'd have none of them visible. The idea of having a wireless USB hub situated out of sight in a drawer or something and have a card reader, maybe external Blu-Ray drive, external hard drive sitting there while I have my laptop in the living room is something that's very exciting to me. Anyone else with me here?

Yep I completely agree with you.
I have a laptop and a external drive.
When im unlucky and wireless isnt working correctly my laptop also has a internet cable stuck to it.
I'd like to have no wires whatsoever coming out of my laptop, unless im recharching the battery.
I want a wireless external drive, wireless printer, wireless money printing device, etc.

 

[Yixian]

In an ideal world Apple should either use AMD/ATI platform for macbook as it has much better integrated GFX or use less powerful dedicated gfx with intel montevina. They can use montevina with powerful and dedicated gfx(9700GTS or 4850) for macbook pro. That would make a good product split.

I dont see apple using amd at this point bcos they are getting discounts on intel cpus.

Dude if only you knew what life is like for us dudes waiting on new MacBook Pros, the 9700 GTS is a pipe dream for us, we'd be lucky with a GPU 3 notches down from that. And that's the 9700, the idea of a 4850...

Lmao, let's just say the reality of GPU prospects for us is pretty depressing and you're best off being ignorant of it.

 

[zambia1989]

The wishful thinking on these forums truly is astounding sometimes!

The Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Macbook Air will NOT become a single line of products, because it makes no economic sense- people who are looking to buy a Pro laptop want their Laptop to say Pro-FACT. Product differentiation is a fundamental and basic aspect of marketing.

As for all these price cuts, you have to be joking. They will not drop the MacBook Air, or halve the price or whatever, because they cannot afford it-another FACT. Apple will never release a "Netbook" in the vein of the Eee PC, because its customers don't want or need one. Apple is an exclusive brand, with premium products, and so its portability solution is the Air-a premium product aimed at professionals. And lets face it, NetBooks are rubbish anyway!!

And who wants to get rid of optical drives?! That is not going to happen within the next 2-3 years. I guarantee it-Apple aren't stupid. BUT in terms of connectivity, do expect some more movement towards a entirely wireless product portfolio-if you look at the Air, the newest laptop in the line, its focus is heavily on wireless capabilities:things like Remote Disk, Time Machine etc. I think that Apple is going to somehow unify some of its less successful products-Airport Extreme, Apple TV, and to a lesser extent Time Machine, into an all-purpose "hub" for home wireless access. Probs not till Macworld 09 though.

 

[mudenza]

I think the Macbooks would look nice in aluminum and having nvidia graphics in them....but Apple would need to do something to separate the MacBook Pro's from them. More so than a speed bump.

Quad-core CPUs

 

[qtx43]

In an ideal world Apple should either use AMD/ATI platform for macbook...

and for everything else, for that matter. Currently there's little reason to buy any dedicated graphics other than ATI's 4850 and 4870. And the ATI's 3200 kicks Intel's 4500 butt too. If Apple's smart, they'd put those in the iMacs, but maybe they have preexisting deals with Intel. So nVidia graphics seems very unlikely. Sadly, it's still a crap shoot whether Apple will even use Intel 4500 integrated in the macbook. And the mini won't even get that, assuming it stays alive.

 

[sinser]

Actually I have around 80 Gb of mp3 that I swap between the laptop and the iPod. 80 % of them have been ripped from my CD collection. I know that a lot of people nowadays don't even know what an original cd is, but how should I rip them without an optical drive? External drive? Other cables and power adapters to mess with ? NO, THANKS.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Last time I checked, 5 minutes prior, Nvidia is not a standing member of the Unified Extensible Firmware Group.

http://www.uefi.org

Last time I checked Nvidia's chipsets don't work with UEFI nor will it work with Nehalem.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7713&Itemid=1

Read that article: The business politics trump everything.

Apple will not jeopardize their preferred status with Intel and Intel won't jeopardize it's precarious stylish status having Apple on-board.

Apple will release their own chipsets that comply with Intel and leverage Apple specific solutions making their hardware differentiation obvious from general PC laptops, desktops and workstations.

Sorry if someone already pointed this out, but Fudzilla did announce that it looks like NVidia will have a Nehalem chipset.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Doesn't make sense to stay with DVI when basically all other brands offer HDMI and even DisplayPort.

Staying with DVI makes sense because most if not all contemporaneous displays use DVI, as does Apple's current displays. I could see Apple shrinking the DVI to a mini-DVI in order to add DisplayPort which is seeing increasing incorporation into video cards and displays. NVidia's MCP7A-U includes support for DisplayPort. Thus I could see Apple including both DVI and DisplayPort both on the MBP and on their displays.

 

[sra. Aguirre]

*Gets cards ready as well* Oh, the 14th can't come soon enough!

pulling my hair out cause but MBP 2 months ago....am selling it to any idiot that will buy at 80% price and am camping the 14th outside an Apple store...

if this is true, it is sweeeeeeeet.....

 

[Val-kyrie]

Much better off with eSATA (another thin connector) for external storage.

3 Gbps today and lower overhead - what's not to like?

Unlike Firewire, I don't believe it is possible to boot off of eSATA in Target disk mode; although it is possible with USB on Intel Macs.

 

[Ironduke]

Unlike Firewire, I don't believe it is possible to boot off of eSATA in Target disk mode; although it is possible with USB on Intel Macs.

I think you maybe wrong on that as esata usually connects to the mobo internally like any other internal hd

 

[gadgetgirl85]

- If we do not hear about some Invitations tomorrow,
- Or if there is not renforcement of a release rumor by tomorrow...(A guy from one of the main retailers chain here in France told that normaly they get the info from Apple one week before release...)

Then we will have to wait...again, cause tomorrow is just one week before the 14th....hope it won't be too long...not sure we will still have money soon

Damn I badly need my first Mac : )
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There mightn't necessarily be an event and I thought that retailers only get informed the day they are released?

 

[imm22]

MBP Launch world wide

Do you think that MBP will be shown to the world launched the same day world wide?

Maybe October 14 2008, or maybe not

 

[sapota]

me wants. me wants....my $1500 are ready to be plopped down on a nvidia graphics (9 series GPU) aluminum macbook.

Now thats gonna drive some of this frozen credit market.

 

[jojo13]

it performs terribly and the hardware problems make users and the company go crazy...

it is totally overpriced and the sales numbers will go down like crazy on the 14th. whoever was so (economically challenged) to buy the MBA in the first place will switch to the optimally similar new MB/portables series. the MBA was, as I wrote, only a side product preparing several construction/hardware details for the upcoming restructuring of the portables series. expect a price drop, for the very least, or the total absorption into the new series.

-B

I saw one of them the other day and it looks like something you'll give to your small child to play around with, I sure wouldn't give any child an MBA.

Really? Have you seen data to support that?

If the new Macbook lives up to the rumors, it'll entice even more potential Air purchasers than it does now, so Apple's going to have to change it somehow or kill it. Personally, I would love to see Apple continue the Air and bring it in line with the competition by adding a larger HDD/SSD, more RAM, boosting battery life, and so on.

Well, the MacBook Air is #4 in Mac best selling list:

Top Sellers
Mac
1.MacBook

2.MacBook Pro

3.iMac

4.MacBook Air

5.AppleCare

6.Time Capsule

7.Mac OS X v10.5.4 Leopard

http://store.apple.com/us

come on man, this is MR, we dont trust self confirmations.

I want actual sales numbers

yes, that jojo fellow needs to cough up numbers to backup his statement

edit: oh look not so lazy after all
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...n_multi_touch_techniques_for_tablet_macs.html

well just reading the titles of the results of searching "macbook air sales" doesnt look promising.....

Still apple isnt going to kill off such a new product especially one of their signatures. Id expect an MBA "take 2" in a similar fashion to ATV.

hey people, till september, MBA was the number one seller on the apple store, so yes, it sells well. Not everyone is a little geek like us and many people just don't care if the CPU is 1.6 or 2.1 GHZ

So the MBA is NOT a flop like the cube was before

thx very much

...and btw, when apple, will refresh the mb and mbp, they will also refresh the mba wich will be very interesting in terms of preformance

... yes and i forgot. Whats telling you they wont add something unique to the air like a touch screen or a touch screen on the trackpad

and i still forgot...

for 75% of the users, the mba air is powerful enough to be used as their only computer

Most of the people dont care about the graphic card
Most of the people dont care about the specs

They just want something that works. And the MBA Do work

 

[mattrud]

putting my money down on press invitations tomorrow to an even on October 14th.

 

[Adamo]

The wishful thinking on these forums truly is astounding sometimes!

The Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Macbook Air will NOT become a single line of products, because it makes no economic sense- people who are looking to buy a Pro laptop want their Laptop to say Pro-FACT. Product differentiation is a fundamental and basic aspect of marketing.

As for all these price cuts, you have to be joking. They will not drop the MacBook Air, or halve the price or whatever, because they cannot afford it-another FACT. Apple will never release a "Netbook" in the vein of the Eee PC, because its customers don't want or need one. Apple is an exclusive brand, with premium products, and so its portability solution is the Air-a premium product aimed at professionals. And lets face it, NetBooks are rubbish anyway!!

And who wants to get rid of optical drives?! That is not going to happen within the next 2-3 years. I guarantee it-Apple aren't stupid. BUT in terms of connectivity, do expect some more movement towards a entirely wireless product portfolio-if you look at the Air, the newest laptop in the line, its focus is heavily on wireless capabilities:things like Remote Disk, Time Machine etc. I think that Apple is going to somehow unify some of its less successful products-Airport Extreme, Apple TV, and to a lesser extent Time Machine, into an all-purpose "hub" for home wireless access. Probs not till Macworld 09 though.

Don't you realise saying "FACT" after everything doesn't make it so? It just makes you look like a massive prat, stop doing it.

 

[AppliedMicro]

The Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Macbook Air will NOT become a single line of products, because it makes no economic sense

Not the MacBook Air... but it does make some sense for the MacBook and MacBook Pro.

people who are looking to buy a Pro laptop want their Laptop to say Pro-FACT.

First and foremost they are probably looking at specs: What their laptop can do for them. At least that's what they should do and what I'd do. Common... is the "I am cool cause I can afford a 'Pro' notebook" really, really, supposed to be so important?! I believe it is reasonably possible for Apple to unify their notebook designs and come up with one aluminum-clad design to go in three different sizes: 13", 15" and 17". And "now" or soon is the most likely time for this to happen. And the rumors have been suggesting an aluminum case for the MacBook for quite some time, haven't they? Whether they add a "pro" tag on the larger models remains to be seen... doesn't matter really.

As for all these price cuts, you have to be joking. They will not drop the MacBook Air

There is some pricing pressure on the market because of the economic conditions and also the advent and popularity of netbooks and the like. Even Apple cannot command any price for their devices, so they'll have to lower them at some point.

I anticipate somewhat like these starting prices for Apples notebooks within the next 100 days:

MacBook 13": 999$ (sub-1000)
MacBook Air: 1499$ (I'd be willing to bet on a 10% price drop within the next 100 days)*
MacBook Pro 15": 1499$ - 1999$ (don't really know what to expect for this one, depends on configuration)

 

[Adamo]

hey people, till september, MBA was the number one seller on the apple store, so yes, it sells well. Not everyone is a little geek like us and many people just don't care if the CPU is 1.6 or 2.1 GHZ

So the MBA is NOT a flop like the cube was before

thx very much

...and btw, when apple, will refresh the mb and mbp, they will also refresh the mba wich will be very interesting in terms of preformance

No, no it wasn't. It may have been the number one seller at a specific time on the Mac part of the store, but not the Apple Store. Unless, of course, you want to try telling everyone it outsold the iPod range for months? Haw haw.

 

[NT1440]

epic triple post jojo

I have to agree. For your average user, an AIR that doesnt have any core shutdown problems will do what most consumers do with their computers. Thats also known as surfin the web.

It is NOT a computer for those who do video editing, photoshop, that kind of stuff.

 

[iAthena]

Hope they focused as much on reducing power consumption as they did with improving the graphics. I definitely want the graphics improvement, but not to sacrifice the current battery usable life from fully charged to depleted.

 

[Digital Skunk]

MacBook 13": 999$ (sub-1000)
MacBook Air: 1699$
MacBook Pro 15": 1899$/2299$/2599$

These prices are more reasonable. We may all want the prices to drop significantly, but don't count on it if Apple does do a major redesign. People are buying Apple laptops in droves, why lower the price for them?

Netbooks are a niche product even more so then the Air, and the Air will never become a netbook or even compared to one in serious circles simple because of the price and specs.

$350 netbook from every other company, or $1500 Air.... there simple is no middle ground.

IF there is a price drop, which there hasn't been in a very long while, then it will be minor, and may just reflect on the Mac Book line, bringing it back down to under a grand starting out, and the iMac which would also be under a grand.

I actually hope to see the MacBook come down to around $899 by slashing features. Being able to get integrated GPUs, Combo-Drive, and older CPUs would be nice for those that do just want a heavy netbook. That would make it a lot easier to push the portables into people's hands.

 

[NT1440]

Hope they focused as much on reducing power consumption as they did with improving the graphics. I definitely want the graphics improvement, but not to sacrifice the current battery usable life from fully charged to depleted.

+1

battery life is VERY important to me. This toshiba only gets about 2 hours at the absolute max when running on freakin power saver mode! POWER SAVER!!

 

[Adamo]

Netbooks are a niche product even more so then the Air, and the Air will never become a netbook or even compared to one in serious circles simple because of the price and specs.

$350 netbook from every other company, or $1500 Air.... there simple is no middle ground.

Erm, niche? In the same sense that laptops are niche! Jeez, netbooks are not a niche, they're selling millions and are alongside other (full-size) laptops in stores as well as all over catalogue pages. The Air would be the middle ground if it wasn't so over-priced. There are netbooks that are 1.6Ghz (similar to that of the Air), some have 7" screens, some have 10.1" screens, then you're into MacBook and 'real' laptop ground like the Samsung Q35 (12" widescreen with DVD-RW).