NVIDIA Powered MacBooks on October 14th?

zambia1989 said:
Fair enough, point taken-I think I got a little carried away, I just get so frustrated with some peoples posts!

I still stand by my point, that the MacBook Pro and Macbook will stay different lines- I mean, look historically: has Apple ever done anything similar? No. Instead they diversify their product portfolio, because unifying two seperate lines doesn' make any sense.

And the same thing with the Air-the reality is, the Air is a premium product, with expensive parts, that Apple has spent a huge amount of time developing, tooling for production, advertising etc. And until they recoup a great deal of that cost and reach saturation at the current price point, it just wouldn't make sound economic sense.

That's what I was trying to say, so I apologise to everyone if it sounded juvenile. :)
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Totally agree, the term you were using (I shan't use it, that's how much I detest it!) just made me see red!

There's no reason for them to alter their product lines, they've been working towards this, not simply to combine platforms and narrow the field for potential customers (and their spending limits).

Everyone would love a cheaper MacBook, whether they adjust the price for a more mass-market-friendly price is up to them, or they could do what they've been doing for quite a while now and simply upgrade the specification and hook up a major redesign.
 
MacsBestFriend said:
i also am for the centrino 2 processor and that brings up this question: what speeds do you expect on the macbook processors? i am thinking 2.4 and 2.6: any thoughts?
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Assuming similar prices:

MacBook: 2.27/2.4 GHz, 2.53 GHz high-end as a long shot

MacBook Pro: 2.4/2.53 GHz, 2.8 GHz BTO, 2.53/2.8 GHz if Apple's generous

I also expect lower-midrange GPUs in the 16" MacBook Pro and a midrange (maybe even slightly-upper-midrange) GPU in the 18".
 
Digital Skunk said:
A faster Monteniva based Air is what I really hope for, no new ports, no more USBs or FW or 3G/EVDO or anything, just a speed bump via the CPU, GPU, and HDD. I wish for a $100 price drop
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Regardless of what we hope for (I'd be just as happy with a price-dropped speedbump), I think that's the most probable thing we can expect. No new form factors, no new cases, just a motherboard upgrade. Probably including SATA for internal storage.
zambia1989 said:
I still stand by my point, that the MacBook Pro and Macbook will stay different lines- I mean, look historically: has Apple ever done anything similar? No.
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Well... yes, when Jobs got back on board and they introduced the classic 2x2 product matrix (desktops / notebook, pro / consumer). Also sort of on a small scale, when they abandoned making the eMac and again sold the iMac to educational institutions. But again, back to your question:
zambia1989 said:
And the same thing with the Air-the reality is, the Air is a premium product, with expensive parts
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Yes... but not so much more expensive than the MacBook. Sure, the aluminum case should a bit more costly. But with SSD prices going down the MacBook going to get LED-backlit screen sooner or later as well, the gap really closes. Also, the MBA doesn't have any optical drive, FireWire or ethernet circuitry on board, as does the MacBook. Does this warrant a premium of several hundred dollars retail? 500 - 700 Dollar? I do not think so.
zambia1989 said:
And until they recoup a great deal of that cost and reach saturation at the current price point, it just wouldn't make sound economic sense.
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It would surely make sense. The best way of recouping their costs is not by selling this at the highest possible price. It depends on volume of sales. By lowering the price they'd sell more units, in theory trying to hit a certain optimum combination of price and unit sales. Economic 101 really. Of course, the question is where that optimum would be. I tend to think it's below current prices.

I mean... Currently, you're supposed to shell out 700$ (!) more for a notebook that does even less than the 1099$ MacBook? Sure, it's lighter and has a shiny aluminum case. But that's about it! Some people had been waiting for a aluminum subnotebook, willing to pay the 1800$ price tag. However, I'd guess Apple must have witnessed a significant drop in units sold as this first "wave" of early adopters and subnotebook fans has been supplied now. So now it's about time they lower the Air's price.

And, to quote your words, look historically: What was the difference in prices between the entry iBook and PowerBook 12"? As far as I recall, it was certainly less than 700$. So I reiterate my stance on this: Apple will lower the Air's with the next revision. Well... they'd better do... they have to ;)
 
iMacmatician said:
I also expect lower-midrange GPUs in the 16" MacBook Pro and a midrange (maybe even slightly-upper-midrange) GPU in the 18".
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No "wonderful" line-up like this?: :confused:
14" MacBook = Low-end Nvidia GPU
16" MacBook Pro = Mid-end ATI or Nvidia GPU
18" MacBook Pro = "True" High-end ATI or Nvidia GPU
 
kabunaru said:
No "wonderful" line-up like this?: :confused:
14" MacBook = Low-end Nvidia GPU
16" MacBook Pro = Mid-end ATI or Nvidia GPU
18" MacBook Pro = "True" High-end ATI or Nvidia GPU
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they arent going to seperate the lines by their gpu, something that most consumers dont know anything about.
 
AppliedMicro said:
I'd guess it entirely depends on your definition of a "laptop" ;)
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Something like that could replace iMacs
 
verozov said:
The 14th is officially on my calendar. I am unavailable before 12 because I know I will not be able to get anything done until then.
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I'm glad that you're not working for me - I'd figure out pretty soon that you'd need to take holiday time for every keynote :eek:


NT1440 said:
battery life is VERY important to me. This toshiba only gets about 2 hours at the absolute max when running on freakin power saver mode! POWER SAVER!!
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How old is the Toshiba? You do know that batteries can wear out in less than a year....


MacsBestFriend said:
wider screens would be great and make blu-ray possible in future models.
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Any screen can display a BD movie - and a 1920x1080 (16x9) and a 1920x1200 (16x10) would show it the same. The black bars don't detract from the movie, and when using it as a computer you get valuable vertical real estate.

Also note that 16x9 is a television aspect, not a movie aspect. Your 2.35:1 BD movies are still going to have black bars top and bottom!
 
AidenShaw said:
How old is the Toshiba? You do know that batteries can wear out in less than a year....
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Well, The battery has always been like this, and its uh .... just over 4 months old? Its the battery consumption, not the battery. This is the main drawback to buying a computer with good specs, for $450. There is always some sacrifice when buying a "bargain" computer. Its a nice laptop, just the battery life isnt my cup of tea
 
Are you kidding?!

Dedicated graphics on the MacBook would be like THEBOMBDOTCOM!

I'd die :)

and buy one the first millisecond it comes out :D :apple:
 
kabunaru said:
No "wonderful" line-up like this?: :confused:
14" MacBook = Low-end Nvidia GPU
16" MacBook Pro = Mid-end ATI or Nvidia GPU
18" MacBook Pro = "True" High-end ATI or Nvidia GPU
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I'd rather see them fit a low high-end video card in the 15/16", then at 15/16" native resolution you'd actually get the kind of overall performance/definition that you'd expect of a Pro laptop.

It can be done, it just means either a new cooling system and/or fractionally thicker chassis.
 
NT1440 said:
Not from a consumer standpoint. Your average jane doesnt know diddly about a video card. Itd be a "whats a gpu and why should I care" situation.
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Whilst it's true you can't use GPUs as the main differentiator when it comes to flogging laptops to the masses, I think the mac community needs to wake up to the reality that actually, there are a hell of a lot of consumers out there that do know what a GPU is and want one that will be useful for more than 3 months.
 
Yixian said:
Whilst it's true you can't use GPUs as the main differentiator when it comes to flogging laptops to the masses, I think the mac community needs to wake up to the reality that actually, there are a hell of a lot of consumers out there that do know what a GPU is and want one that will be useful for more than 3 months.
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Oh, by no means am I saying apple doesnt need to update their GPUs for those who need them ( i personally dont do anything gpu intensive, but they are vital for others) Im just saying it would be a bad idea to market the different GPUs as the main difference between lines (i beleive youve already agreed with me).:)
 
NT1440 said:
they arent going to seperate the lines by their gpu, something that most consumers dont know anything about.
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That's why they would be separated also by screen size, cpu speed,ram, hdd size/speed, features and price. Then the average consumer would make a conscious buy even not knowing a crap about gpus.:cool:
 
Mac95 says "No Mac shall be left untouched on October the 14th." That's a pretty bold statement for a site with 3 posts thou. :p
 
NT1440 said:
Well, The battery has always been like this, and its uh .... just over 4 months old? Its the battery consumption, not the battery. This is the main drawback to buying a computer with good specs, for $450. There is always some sacrifice when buying a "bargain" computer. Its a nice laptop, just the battery life isnt my cup of tea
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You might want to double-check the BIOS settings, some systems have a "disable power savings" or "disable speedstep" option in the BIOS.

You might also consider something like the APC spare battery (http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=358) - it can add a lot of runtime.
 
AidenShaw said:
You might want to double-check the BIOS settings, some systems have a "disable power savings" or "disable speedstep" option in the BIOS.

You might also consider something like the APC spare battery (http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=358) - it can add a lot of runtime.
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Yea as for the seperate battery, im just waiting for the new macbooks then my sister can deal with this machine. Its not bad, the battery just sucks.
 
The let's rock invites came out one week before, so everyone keep fingers crossed that we get something tomorrow.

I think there is no way they release a couple new iPods and fail to have an event for a new Macbook.
 
tringo said:
The let's rock invites came out one week before, so everyone keep fingers crossed that we get something tomorrow.

I think there is no way they release a couple new iPods and fail to have an event for a new Macbook.
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Though one could hypothesize that due to the lack of excitement at the last event, they might just have some quiet press release?
 
Where can I find the announcement when/if it does happen? Apple site I'm sure, but where at in the apple site? News/releases?

Also, do you guys think Led screens will happen?
 
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