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jimN said:
Powermacs all shipping within 24 hours. Outlook seems poor.

Powerbooks (15+17) 1-2 days in the states and at least 5 days in the UK. Powerbook tuesday?!

Its not the stock Powermac shipping times that count. It is the BTO. Those are between 5-10 days, depending on model.
 
Hi everyone,

With the 12-inch Powebook shipping times being shorter than the other models, I've very nervous that Apple is going to scrap the 12-inch model. Or, they might keep it a couple months (without an update), and then quietly take it off the site.

What does everyone else think?

Or it could be that the updates are still a week or two away, and that the 12-inch is simply in better supply right now.
 
Compulsive said:
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0510oct12c.html

Well TS has been updated as the link shows....

With 4 new PM in the announcement, no doubt at least 2 will be Dualcore.

I am stoked and cant wait to spend my money (actually visa) on a new PM I have been waiting for 6 months for this.

Compulsive


There is no reference to PowerMacs in that article- just Macs. PowerMac? iMac? eMac? Powerbook? iBook?
 
c2104338 said:
There is no reference to PowerMacs in that article- just Macs. PowerMac? iMac? eMac? Powerbook? iBook?
Mm, and 2 of those four could simply be making the mini speed bumps official.
 
I remember a rumor on appleinsider saying there were references to the 15 and 17 '' powerbooks that were getting updapted , but that the 12'' was nowhere to be seen, and therefore hypothesized to be dropped fromt eh lineup.
 
A link that Apple likes

Hello, first post here;

Now I am not sure that this means anything, other than it links from the Apple UK Hot News page, to the Guardian website.

Click the link for - Apple is “Most Reliable Computer Brand” and it takes you here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1585583,00.html

It was just nice to see that it is defo a New Product (which makes me think not software). If Apple wanted this to be a secret they would not have it linked to from their site.
 
pigwin32 said:
OK, so I know squat about GPU's but that red curtain would appear to indicate the event has something to do with movies. A little extrapolation on the fodder provided by the rumour sites and it becomes obvious that the event will see the release of PowerBooks with higher resolution displays, with at least the 17" achieving HD resolution.

One more time, for those who missed last week's Video Production class, the 17" and 15" PB have HD native resolution LCDs. HD starts at 720p virtical lines of resolution. For those who need assistence with what the definition of HD is, please refer to Wikipedia.org :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Definition_Video
 
g0gie said:
I remember a rumor on appleinsider saying there were references to the 15 and 17 '' powerbooks that were getting updapted , but that the 12'' was nowhere to be seen, and therefore hypothesized to be dropped fromt eh lineup.

It makes sense to drop the 12" since it has more in common with the 12" iBook than the 15" and 17" PBs.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1229

Look on the bright side, according to other rumors, Apple might replace the 12" with a 13" wide screen.
 
nomad01 said:
Well for a big project that's had lots of cutting and pasting and effects and transitions etc you're probably looking at longer than this to encode it. Even with your example though, 36 minutes sounds like a good saving but in a real word scenario, it's still a LOOONG wait and unless you're sitting in front of the machine waiting for it to end, it's not a big deal.

Cutting and pasting simple transitions is small beans.

You don't do professional video, do you? I can recall many instances, in real world situations , in which 30minutes made the difference between getting that $800k contract and not. ;)
 
ZorPrime said:
One more time, for those who missed last week's Video Production class, the 17" and 15" PB have HD native resolution LCDs. HD starts at 720p virtical lines of resolution. For those who need assistence with what the definition of HD is, please refer to Wikipedia.org :)
Please don't be so condescending, ZorPrime. If you want to get technical, we're all hoping for a WUXGA screen (1920 x 1200, preserving the 16:10 aspect ratio), but HD seems like an appropriate term as well.

If you'll notice, Apple sells two "Cinema HD" displays on their website, at 23 and 30 inches, and one display just called "Cinema": the 20" which only displays at 1680x1050. That's more than 720 vertical lines, but less than the highest resolution of HD, which has 1080 vertical lines. It's that higher standard which is commonly known as (and called by Apple) HD. Since this is a Mac forum, I think Apple's definition of HD ought to suffice.
 
ZorPrime said:
One more time, for those who missed last week's Video Production class, the 17" and 15" PB have HD native resolution LCDs. HD starts at 720p virtical lines of resolution. For those who need assistence with what the definition of HD is, please refer to Wikipedia.org :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Definition_Video
Fair enough, but what do you think, I've got time to spend all day here getting an education? To paraphrase the other Steve, rumours, rumours, rumours etc. And someone else here could maybe get some remedial spelling tuition :)

So my dear old TiBook can do HD Video, thanks for pointing that out, just saved me megabucks. Actually, a higher resolution would be great for photo viewing/editing and a little extra processing power would help as well. It is sad to see the PowerBook on the wrong side of the bell curve, I would like to see that situation redressed but I can't see it happening this time round. Apple need to refresh the PB line but realistically how much effort are they going to put into it when surely most of their effort is concentrated on getting an Intel laptop into production.
 
https://www.bodog.com/sports-betting/non-sports-events.jsp

I'm thinking of betting on this Apple event. I'm not so sure about how realistic it is that they announce a video ipod this coming 12th.

Who would you bet on?

If any of you do bet on it. Please help a poor college student out by using my referral #. P1D605A

I'm curiious on what you'd put your money on. Not necessarily for real, but if you had to put your money on it.
 
I just visted Deo Deo and Best Denki here in Japan and all powerbooks have been removed from the shelves, although Deo Deo still had one 12" on display. Not sure if this is of any significance?
 
iTV?

Ok, thought I better get my 2 cents (or pence, as I'm in the UK!) worth in. The more I think about this the more I'm sure its a possible, so please flame/praise me as you think is appropiate. I would really like thoughts on this idea!

I reckon that its an annoucement for the Nano Tubes. 1000 songs in your pocket WITH scratch resistance. Wow! Steve does it again!

Seriously thou, here's my punt:

I think that Steve is going to launch the Apple TV.

He's my reasoning.

- Its clearly a product that will be released almost immedately, in time for Christmas. (timing)

- It clearly has something to do with a 'screen' of some sort. (red curtain)

- TV's are a big seller at xmas.

- It will pave the way for Apple Video Store, the same way that iPod paved the way for the original ITMS.

I think that an update of the iPod is logical, and will be announced. But, i don't think it'll be the headliner (think ROKR!). More likely, it'll be bigger capacity, and smaller size. Just because they can.

Windows is dying to become the 'digital hub', and with MS Media Centre, control all the entertainment around the house. The problem is, noone wants there TV to be a computer. They want it to be a TV. Turn it on, watch TV. That's it.

So Apple release a Hi Def TV. With a built in HD/PVR. In addition to this, they install webcam/ichat cilent into all of them, as well as access to your iTunes/visualiser. Its also, obviously, has computer connectivity... perhaps over bluetooth??!

But esstentially, its a very good TV.

Apple's success in recent years is it's brand outside of the geek world, and its clearly something that the boys want to continue. By placing a TV in the homes around the world, that apple logo becomes more and more visable.

AND, the launch will show Steve playing Halo 2 on the Xbox 360 on his new Apple TV. Now THAT would be a kick in the MS balls!

What do you reckon?

f (first time poster!)
 
g0gie said:
I remember a rumor on appleinsider saying there were references to the 15 and 17 '' powerbooks that were getting updapted , but that the 12'' was nowhere to be seen, and therefore hypothesized to be dropped fromt eh lineup.

Yes I remember reading that rumour too...

If you look at current shipping times (on the UK store anyway), the 12 inch PowerBook is still shipping within 24 hours, but the 15" and 17" are at 5 days, with the 15" SD option at 2-3 weeks. So perhaps we'll see updates to the bigger notebooks but not the 12 inch... which maybe will be phased out (since the latest iBook is fairly close in specs) or possibly replaced later by a 13" widescreen...?

It'll be a shame if they do phase out the 12" PB though... this is what i currently have and i wouldn't want to buy an iBook or a much bigger notebook next time.
 
fosman said:
So Apple release a Hi Def TV. With a built in HD/PVR. In addition to this, they install webcam/ichat cilent into all of them, as well as access to your iTunes/visualiser. Its also, obviously, has computer connectivity... perhaps over bluetooth??!

Sounds plausible to me because I see the present as the time for introducing the '1st generation' of the next wave of gadgets which we will be using in 5 years time. The tv being used as a video telephone sounds right to me.

Apple have had a big success with the iPod so I guess they will be trying to do it again by being first with the next big thing whatever it may be.

ben
 
I might have said this before, but if that is the case I'll just repeat myself :).

The best thing (that is actually doable, so no dual-core G5 PB's!) Apple could do right now is this:

Move Powerbooks to 7448. Clock-speeds could be around 1.6 - 2.0Ghz. Increase the screen-resolutions, and bumb up the vid-cards. Dual-layer DVD-burners on all models. Give iBook the specs that current PowerBooks do, and maybe bumb the screen-resolutions. This would mean clock-speeds of 1.5 and 1.67Ghz, 166Mhz bus). This would give both lineups a good bumb if specs and performance.

Give PowerMac the dual-core 970MP. The lineup could start from 1x 2.4Ghz dualcore G5, continue to 2x 2.7Ghz dualcore G5 all the way to 2x 3.0Ghz Dualcore G5. Bumb up the other specs as well, move to PCI-Express if possible, and upgrade the vid-cards accordingly (current vid-cards on the PM are a joke!). Bumb the standard RAM to 1GB.

In the end, these would be relatively simple yet effective upgrades. PowerBooks would be relatively yasy upgrade, since the chip is pin-compatible. iBook would be relatively simple upgrade, since they would simply recycle their old PowerBook tech in to iBook. The hardest part would be the PCI-Express-upgrade on the PowerMac, but the PM really needs that upgrade! And if they are planning to sell the PM for over a year, they HAVE to upgrade it! PM's are supposed to be hi-end, yet AGP hasn't been hi-end in a long time! And by the time PM moves to Intel, AGP will be ancient with only obsolete vid-cards supporting it! Come on Apple, do it!

Other upgrades I would like to see: Smaller iPods with higher capacities. New Airports with video-out and wireless Firewire. Give PowerBooks and PowerMacs wireless Firewire, and maybe the iPod as well (stream your movies to the big screen). That would be very, very cool indeed. Think about it: watch DVD-movies with your Powerbook, transmit the image and sound wirelessty to airport which the outputs it through your big screen and speakers.

If Apple did these, I would think that just about everyone would be more than pleased. And, IMO, Apple COULD do these.
 
ZorPrime said:
It makes sense to drop the 12" since it has more in common with the 12" iBook than the 15" and 17" PBs.

Look on the bright side, according to other rumors, Apple might replace the 12" with a 13" wide screen.

I have to look on the bright side.
Dropping the 12'' makes no sense irl, while it obviously makes in real marketing :p ...

what are (extremely) mobile users with no use for a big display going to do ? buy a 15'' :confused: ? that's BS. Even now, the 12'' books, both i and p, are NOT deeply targeting road warriors. They are both heavy (yes, they are: e.g. compared to books like thinkpad X series), the ibook has got slow disks, the pbook has got horrible wifi reception, not so good battery life and can burn your lap along with dvds :D , the 12'' ibook can't have a superdrive, ... (list could go on).

Is it possible that Apple really isn't able to target these users ? don't think so, but.... where are the laptops ? :(
 
Evangelion said:
Increase the screen-resolutions, and bumb up the vid-cards. Dual-layer DVD-burners on all models. Give iBook the specs that current PowerBooks do, and maybe bumb the screen-resolutions. This would mean clock-speeds of 1.5 and 1.67Ghz, 166Mhz bus). This would give both lineups a good bumb if specs and performance.

Give PowerMac the dual-core 970MP. The lineup could start from 1x 2.4Ghz dualcore G5, continue to 2x 2.7Ghz dualcore G5 all the way to 2x 3.0Ghz Dualcore G5. Bumb up the other specs as well, move to PCI-Express if possible, and upgrade the vid-cards accordingly (current vid-cards on the PM are a joke!). Bumb the standard RAM to 1GB.
Hehe, I was wondering what you were talking about for a while and suddenly realised you were trying to say 'bump'...
 
lazydog said:
Sounds plausible to me because I see the present as the time for introducing the '1st generation' of the next wave of gadgets which we will be using in 5 years time. The tv being used as a video telephone sounds right to me.

Apple have had a big success with the iPod so I guess they will be trying to do it again by being first with the next big thing whatever it may be.

ben

My point exactly... Apple TV... come on! it would be so cool!
 
PCMacUser said:
Hehe, I was wondering what you were talking about for a while and suddenly realised you were trying to say 'bump'...

As a non-english-speaker, I don't see any difference with non-words link "bumb" and "bump" :)
 
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