And it truly is "hot" when that iMac mobile GPU gets strugglin' and the CPU has to ramp down to not melt...
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Oculus Rift Won't Support Mac Until Apple Releases a 'Good Computer'
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And it truly is "hot" when that iMac mobile GPU gets strugglin' and the CPU has to ramp down to not melt...
My iMac is (hard to believe) probably 3 years old and runs and looks as good as they day I bought it. Has a i7/16GB/512SSD/NVidia750MGPU2GB (don't quote me on the GPU might be 1 or 1.5GB) and I consider it a "good computer". So like mine your opinion is very subjective. That said it wasn't cheap but is still a good computer actually better then most of the garbage people buy at BestBuy today.
The problem with curved screens in general is they limit viewing angles and warp the image when off center. They're pretty as hell, but that's a fatal flaw if your room is wide.
This. Don't try and defend it either fanboys.
It's exactly the reason Apple give for the way they pretend to make products.
Hand on heart.
This is the one single reason I did not switch over the Apple computers many years ago.
If Apple offered computers with great GPU's and, as well as being good computers were also right up there at the high end with gaming ability I would have left PC's many many MANY years ago
This is the one single reason I did not switch over the Apple computers many years ago.
If Apple offered computers with great GPU's and, as well as being good computers were also right up there at the high end with gaming ability I would have left PC's many many MANY years ago
You know... I can just head over to the bar and spend quality time with friends, and make myself throw up for less than 50 dollars. No need for the 3 grand investment to do it.
As for what the Oculus folks said... does it really matter? The gaming scene is small on Mac as it is. Seems like a smart economical choice at this time and one that most game developers make anyway. Cut their losses from the inevitible flop.
As for what the Oculus folks said... does it really matter? The gaming scene is small on Mac as it is. Seems like a smart economical choice at this time and one that most game developers make anyway. Cut their losses from the inevitible flop.
VR is a niche product in the home entertainment market, I don't think anyone is still fooling themselves that VR will reach anywhere near the install base of game consoles/gaming PCs.
Dunno what you mean. The requirements aren't very high. You can get the 970 for around 300 bucks. Most modern Macs could handle this device fine with the specs required. All that's missing is the graphics card and a decent power supply.
VR is too new and too expensive for me to care atm. Although, I do wish macs supported better gpus for the gamings. It's the only reason I'm still shackled to a pc
Gaming enthusiasts looking for a cutting edge desktop experience and apple computers do not go together.
Yup, Linus Tech Tips did a review on it of how bad the iMac sucks;
Go to the 2:30 minute mark of the video... he explains perfectly how HORRIBLE the iMac is for cooling and how it actually UNDERPEFORMS at load, which actually, could be viewed as FALSE advertising.
Pathetic.
A "good computer" ??.. (What cheek does that guy have, insulted as an Apple user)
I agree GPU may not be up to par with PC's, but that's no reason to shake your tail feather at Apple..
Its only a question of time..... this only applies now because its 'new'', as with anything, start with whats better, then develop for the lessor machines out there.. later on.
There is probably no technical reason could there that it just cannot be developed on "not exactly high performance GPU's" ?
And if is technically only possible for high end machines, then it will be limited to those *with* such machines.
I agree GPU may not be up to par with PC's, but that's no reason to shake your tail feather at Apple..
Its only a question of time..... this only applies now because its 'new'', as with anything, start with whats better, then develop for the lessor machines out there.. later on.
There is probably no technical reason could there that it just cannot be developed on "not exactly high performance GPU's" ?
And if is technically only possible for high end machines, then it will be limited to those *with* such machines.
If they were making a truly effective device the graphics overhead on device making it functional on a wide number of systems.
It will be years away at the least. Do you have any idea how much heat the current batch of high end GPU puts out? I don't want to end up looking like Sandor Clegane (the Hound).
Maybe if they do liquid cooling, but that ain't Apple's style. Too bulky.
Apple doesn't even sell 'adequate' machines for gaming. They suck. You're not going to do any gaming on a 5k iMac with a pathetic mobile GPU. The Mac Pro is way too expensive and even then it uses relics for GPUs.
is a Mac pro the only closest competitor or an iMac 5 K?
compared to PC gaming Mac's suck, but that doesn't mean Mac's are bad for gaming.... I've played COD4 on Mac even in VM...
While u may need to reduce resolution or frame rate u wouldn't otherwise need to on a "faster" machine (PC) built with that in mind,,,, we are also comparing to that of the wrong thing anyway.
We shouldn't be comparing average Mac GPU to a power house, since the power house will always win.. and unfair advantage.
Plus how many games or apps do u reckon VR will hit if the hardware is specific it runs on ? It has to change if its gonna be in mass......
compared to PC gaming Mac's suck, but that doesn't mean Mac's are bad for gaming.... I've played COD4 on Mac even in VM...
While u may need to reduce resolution or frame rate u wouldn't otherwise need to on a "faster" machine (PC) built with that in mind,,,, we are also comparing to that of the wrong thing anyway.
We shouldn't be comparing average Mac GPU to a power house, since the power house will always win.. and unfair advantage.
Plus how many games or apps do u reckon VR will hit if the hardware is specific it runs on ? It has to change if its gonna be in mass......
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I understand what you're saying but that doesn't represent where the VR world is today. The reason Oculus and others are jumping in full force is because China's VR gaming rooms are booming out of control. They are into the millions of people paying a small fee everyday to play and the general population here knows nothing of it. They are all powered by SoC's and will continue to do so. Where Oculus is heading is eye candy, it won't take off like that. The market is too big in the opposite direction.
I don't even care about graphics, I just don't want to pay a premium for two year old technology for my server room. My Xserves are dying. I need Minis and MPs ... where's the new hardware???
They're going to have an extremely hard time trying. I guarantee it.
I want to spend my money on a new Mac honestly I do, but everything is proprietary and gimped and unsupported by anybody except Apple.
Biggest disappointment of my whole time with computers?
The '13 Mac Pro.
My 1,1 cost me about £1900 in 2006 and that's a lot of money now never mind then. But it was worth it. Good performance, support, options so I took the plunge.
Rumours of the trash can started circulating but I still got sticker shock when it actually arrived. If it was dual drive and had slots, (maybe a tad bigger of course), I'd have bought that too. Instead I bought a second hand 5,1 and I lie in wait for Apple to give their current offering a REAL upgrade.
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