Heaven forbid you suggest a tiny companies uses controversial press comments to get maximum exposure
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Oculus Rift Won't Support Mac Until Apple Releases a 'Good Computer'
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Heaven forbid you suggest a tiny companies uses controversial press comments to get maximum exposure
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It's not just Oculus though, it's any visually intensive games. Oculus's haven't made this problem up - Macs don't have good gaming hardware. I'm not saying that's a fault, it's just a decision Apple have taken for whatever reason. I expect rendering animated video is a different kettle of fish from a technology standpoint - games hardware has been optimised specifically for games (which have also been optimised for the hardware).
Because of the slim margins, their primary interest is in selling you a new TV, because of that their updates to the TV OS will now be for particularly long. Our original HDTV is coming up 10 years, and I expect to get at least another 5-10 out of it. There is no money and no will to keep TVs updated.
Now you need to run a power cable to the headset in addition to the video and signaling. Then, just add a nice copper heat sink and fan. Sounds like a fantastic solution!
you mean, the VCR tech? the same basic tech that launched in the 60's and lasted as primary means of home video recording all the way up to the 2000's?
40 someodd years would be amazing for VR to last around
Betamax, Secam and others died quicker, they may have even been better technology. However life expectancy of technology has also grown much shorter, so I expect a higher turn over of ideas.
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I most certainly never get excited about the modest upgrades of cell phones from year to year. Nor about this VR that will take quite some time to get mainstream. I love calling out exaggerated statements and this idiotic culture though. I find it fun.
As Daring Fireball calls then "Claim Chowder"
Was that Virtuality?
I used to dribble about that back in my Amiga days.....
These new VR devices are aimed at people like me.
I'll need a new cpu and graphics card and vr device.
I'm leaning more toward Oculus but I'll see how things pan out with the vive, they had 15k pre-orders in 10 minutes, not bad.
Apple will have something vr no doubt, don't know what the hubbub is all about in this thread, it's obvious none of the Macs will run VR with mobile gpus. ... surprised the rubbish can can't though, then again, it's not really designed for private entertainment.
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You really don't see the difference? You're insulting people for how they choose to spend their time, which has nothing to do with you. Rather like seeing somebody fishing and calling them names. In my opinion, that's not OK. I'm insulting you (and the other two) for how you interact with other people. Rather like seeing somebody kicking people and calling him names. In my opinion, that's OK. You can dissagree with one of both of my opinions stated above, but there's no hypocrisy. Or don't you see the difference?
Edit: actually, fishing's a bad example, as we don't know for sure that fish don't feel pain. Let's go with... reading, instead.
They have enough. The vast majority of cars dont have the horse power of a Maserati , and for most people its "Meh" and they buy the car the suits their needs.
Next a PC to run games, go for it
Need Linux to do Scientific computing, go for it
Need Windows for CAD, go for it
What your needs are has zero bearing on what mine are.
I used to use Altium for doing PCB design, my needs are such now that I use DipTrace on a Mac where it is running the Windows version within a Wine environment and does it very well. Right tool for the right job.
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Apples A9 processor sitting in something the size of the iPhone was unimaginable not too long ago.
In another 2- 3 years, I think we may be all surprised.
Your 2 sentences contradict themselves. Your first sentence clearly refers to "VR" but that topic does not completely exclude the topic of "fast GPUs." That's why it is truly WORTH the money and effort to put a better GPU in all Macs, especially the Mac Pro which has the best cooling. Your closing sentence even wishes for that.
This entire topic is so important. Folks, please think about it. We no longer have huge leaps in performance when a new CPU is released. That used to be the case many years ago, but no longer. Each leap Intel makes results in only a modest boost. The NOTICEABLE gains in performance are all in the GPU camp. And more software needs to be written to take advantage of that. But there is enough software out there already which does use GPU power which would justify a beefier GPU in all new Macs. A "good GPU" would yield better gaming performance, faster FCPX rendering, faster Adobe Apps (yes, they are GPU accelerated), faster scrolling, and the list goes on. So it's not merely about VR, although that would be yet another benefit. Apple needs to cool their machines better so they can put a more powerful GPU in each one. Heck, multiple GPUs in parallel!
You missed the point. This is not a reality headset. It's a virtual reality headset. When you put it on, there are millions of hackintoshers.
Good luck. Apple doesn't seem to care for the high end/pro market anymore. I'd love for Apple to bring back the iPod Classic with 64GB, 128GB or 256GB flash storage and hi-res audio support. But I seriously doubt it will ever happen.
He's not wrong. The D700's in the Mac Pro are the same architecture as the AMD HD 7970 cards. Those are two generations out of date already since replaced by the HD 290X and Fury X generations.
All of Apple's GPU's are either mobile and slow or woefully outdated.
All of Apple's GPU's are either mobile and slow or woefully outdated.
On one hand, it seems like a bad move on any company's part not to support any segment of the market.
On the other, he's right. Apple has spent the last few years treating the Mac like an afterthought and it shows. I can't speak for the Mac Pro because I don't own one and never have, but the rest of the line-up is really sub-par. The iMac and the Mac Mini need to die. They've overstayed their welcome and no amount of slimming down is going to hide that fact. Apple needs to upend the desktop Mac offerings and have a redo. People don't buy desktop computers because they want features removed so it can be slimmer and more aesthetically pleasing. Steve Jobs called the desktop computer the truck of the computer world. Trucks do heavy work. They serve no purpose being pretty. I wish like hell Apple would dump the iMac and Mac Mini and make something modern with all the features a desktop computer user expects to have and stop worrying how much slimmer it should be. It's not a phone.
On the other, he's right. Apple has spent the last few years treating the Mac like an afterthought and it shows. I can't speak for the Mac Pro because I don't own one and never have, but the rest of the line-up is really sub-par. The iMac and the Mac Mini need to die. They've overstayed their welcome and no amount of slimming down is going to hide that fact. Apple needs to upend the desktop Mac offerings and have a redo. People don't buy desktop computers because they want features removed so it can be slimmer and more aesthetically pleasing. Steve Jobs called the desktop computer the truck of the computer world. Trucks do heavy work. They serve no purpose being pretty. I wish like hell Apple would dump the iMac and Mac Mini and make something modern with all the features a desktop computer user expects to have and stop worrying how much slimmer it should be. It's not a phone.
Yeah ... and this really shouldn't be the case for premium-priced computers.
I just ran the Steam VR readiness test and failed based on GPU capacity. I have dual overclocked 6990's. They are about 4 or 5 years old now, so it's out of range. However, getting a GPU that is within VR spec is not that hard or that expensive for a gamer. An AMD 290 is a several year old card, so they aren't being that crazy.
The Steam VR check app required 90 FPS and although it looked smooth to me without VR, it wasn't 90 FPS on my monitor (which is limited to 60 fps.)
The Steam VR check app required 90 FPS and although it looked smooth to me without VR, it wasn't 90 FPS on my monitor (which is limited to 60 fps.)
Haha love how they are calling out Apple for putting mediocre hardware with high-end prices.
I remember my macbook pro 2007, It's graphics card was relatively new (6 months from memory), now they are putting 2-3 year old graphics cards in them. It's a shame. Its just not the hardware. They need a graphics library like DirectX, they are getting it with Metal, but so far its not in the computers, only their mobile devices and they have some 20+ years to catch up.
His point was that you cannot even buy a Mac with a gpu strong enough.
But you can buy a pc.
True, most don't own anything that will be able to support its requirements. Another rich person's toy, like the Apple Watch. Oh, wait a minute...
Haha love how people like you still don't understand that value is not only determined by hardware specs.
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