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One thing that needs ”fixing” with the Office 2016 apps is their size! It seems there are about 400 MB's of fonts plus a Framework folder of similar size that reoccurs within every single Office 2016 app. No wonder they're so huge. Why these resources can't be shared between the apps (like it was in Office 2011) is beyond me.

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Vast majority of us

Speak for yourself!

have no need for it as it hides the dock and menu

... which I do hide anyway - thanks El Capitan for providing that "mouse over" possibility also for the menu bar!

, ultimately making multitasking a pain in the ass.

Ah, so you're the one guy still using the Dock for launching apps, let alone switch between them? Ahhhh...! Ever heard of ALT + TAB? Or if you must, that thing called "cockpit" or whatever (when you swipe up or down with 4 fingers on a trackpad, or so..)...
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Are word and excel 2016 still using more CPU than Office 2011? I've frequently seen Word use around 50% of CPU for a normal 3000 word essay! Didn't have this problem with Office 2011.

Neither did I! Never had to write a 3000 word essay in Word ;)
 
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Vast majority of us have no need for it as it hides the dock and menu, ultimately making multitasking a pain in the ass. It really is a redundant feature, one that is actually detrimental to getting things done quickly. Apple should just add an option in system settings to make the green button act as a 'maximize window' without going into fullscreen. It'd satisfy everyone.

Holding the option button will allow you to do just that.
 
Vast majority of us have no need for it as it hides the dock and menu, ultimately making multitasking a pain in the ass. It really is a redundant feature, one that is actually detrimental to getting things done quickly. Apple should just add an option in system settings to make the green button act as a 'maximize window' without going into fullscreen. It'd satisfy everyone.
Yeah! They should go back to how it was in Lion where the green button was a maximize button and the fullscreen button was in the top-right corner.
 
I just downloaded the updates and it clocks in around 3.34GB. This times the 3 Macs on my subscription is painful on metered (wireless) broadband out in the country... 50 miles from the US White House...

I know, I have to get this stuff setup for clients and customers - and my primary internet is 3mb down :( - i fortunately can access gigabit internet but most of the time when it comes up that I need to grab the update, i'm not on it....and it takes forever.
 
Full screen apps alongside the multitouch gestures is fantastic, besides the transition animation (which can be disabled) it can be very quick to work with.
 
Vast majority of us have no need for it as it hides the dock and menu, ultimately making multitasking a pain in the ass. It really is a redundant feature, one that is actually detrimental to getting things done quickly. Apple should just add an option in system settings to make the green button act as a 'maximize window' without going into fullscreen. It'd satisfy everyone.

"vast majority"? got a link for that assertion?

and I'm not following on the lack of dock problem -- I use 3-finger swipes to move between apps, the desktop, or mission control. what are you talking about?
 
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"vast majority"? got a link for that assertion?

and I'm not following on the lack of dock problem -- I use 3-finger swipes to move between apps, the desktop, or mission control. what are you talking about?

So say you have 8 apps, you have to go through potentially 7 until you get to the right one?

How would I drag and drop files into Outlook from the finder when in full screen?
 
Personally, I find very little use for full-screen apps on Mac. The only one that I have used with any kind of regularity is iPhoto/Photos, when going through my album, as it cleans up the interface a good bit. But the split-screen multitasking is an absolute kludge of an implementation, and might as well just work with a windowed environment.
Yep, each to their own of course!
 
Vast majority of us have no need for it as it hides the dock and menu, ultimately making multitasking a pain in the ass. It really is a redundant feature, one that is actually detrimental to getting things done quickly. Apple should just add an option in system settings to make the green button act as a 'maximize window' without going into fullscreen. It'd satisfy everyone.

What?? Almost everyone in my office (an entire mac operation) auto hides the dock anyway.... In fact most Mac users that I know have the dock on the side of the screen not bottom as it takes up to much real estate.
 
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So you have to bring up a window and toggle through apps when you can have them always displayed in the dock?
I can get most of my work done without taking my fingers off my keyboard, I find this more productive. With ctrl arrow key you don't need to bring up a window that toggles through apps. I mostly use cmd tab to switch back and forth between two apps (which doesn't bring up the switcher), which is faster than taking my hand off the keyboard and using the mouse/trackpad. All this and I get more screen real estate which I personally find is important, there's less distractions and more space for code, docs etc. Each to their own of course.
 
What?? Almost everyone in my office (an entire mac operation) auto hides the dock anyway.... In fact most Mac users that I know have the dock on the side of the screen not bottom as it takes up to much real estate.

i don't know how anyone can use the dock at the bottom of the screen.

i'd love for a way to have the dock appear on the left side of my left screen and the right side of my right screen. bottom is the only way to get two docks.

with the the possible ways to switch 'spaces' (multitasking), i'm not sure why someone wouldn't use full screen mode.
 
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i don't know how anyone can use the dock at the bottom of the screen.

i'd love for a way to have the dock appear on the left side of my left screen and the right side of my right screen. bottom is the only way to get two docks.

with the the possible ways to switch 'spaces' (multitasking), i'm not sure why someone wouldn't use full screen mode.

Because creatives have to integrate multiple elements of a projects from multiple sources (apps). I work on projects that involve Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Transmit, MS Word and Outlook. Working in one 'space' is far more practical that have 5 different full screen apps that hide everything else. I understand that some of you like working in a restricted environment, but the problem comes down to CHOICE; the green button needs to have an option of behaving in more than one way.
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What?? Almost everyone in my office (an entire mac operation) auto hides the dock anyway.... In fact most Mac users that I know have the dock on the side of the screen not bottom as it takes up to much real estate.

Nobody in our office works in such a way. And nobody I know would want to hide the dock when multitasking.
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I can get most of my work done without taking my fingers off my keyboard, I find this more productive. With ctrl arrow key you don't need to bring up a window that toggles through apps. I mostly use cmd tab to switch back and forth between two apps (which doesn't bring up the switcher), which is faster than taking my hand off the keyboard and using the mouse/trackpad. All this and I get more screen real estate which I personally find is important, there's less distractions and more space for code, docs etc. Each to their own of course.

Hot corners. Learn to use them with mission control.

If you only work in two apps, sure, then it's easy to toggle between them. But this doesn't explain how you'd work with many applications at once. What are you going to do, keep hitting cmd+tab until you land on the right app? God forbid you go past it and have to tab through all of your apps again until you get to the desired one.
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One thing that needs ”fixing” with the Office 2016 apps is their size! It seems there are about 400 MB's of fonts plus a Framework folder of similar size that reoccurs within every single Office 2016 app. No wonder they're so huge. Why these resources can't be shared between the apps (like it was in Office 2011) is beyond me.

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It's amazing how Microsoft managed to make the apps take ages to load up AGAIN even with an SSD drive.

Those are some dedicated programmers MS hired.
 
... Apple should just add an option in system settings to make the green button act as a 'maximize window' without going into fullscreen. It'd satisfy everyone.

I just accidentally found out, like yesterday, that holding the alt/option key while hovering over the green full-screen button, reverts to a maximise (+) button again, if that helps. :)
 
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I just accidentally found out, like yesterday, that holding the alt/option key while hovering over the green full-screen button, reverts to a maximise (+) button again, if that helps. :)

Check out BetterTouchTools. You can override the behaviour so it ALWAYS goes maximize or even fills the entire available area exactly like maximize works in MS Windows. If I didn't have the app installed on all of my Macs, I'd go crazy. I hate fullscreen.
 
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It's a bit of a joke how:

1. 800mb per app update
2. 10+ bounces to open an office app.
3. The amount of CPU the update consumes

It wouldn't be a joke if this software wasn't designed by one of the biggest software companies in the world. Since Microsoft is a massive company, this is all a bit of a joke. Just a bit.
 
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