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I still don't get why it was named Office 2021... They should have continued the pattern...

[Windows] - Office 2007, Office 2010, Office 2013, Office 2016, Office 2019, Office 2022
[macOS] - Office 2016, Office 2019, Office 2022
 
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I see two parts to this.
1. The mac and windows versions should look different because they have different users to work with.
2. The Windows version of outlook should not be the model to replicate. I would much rather see Win10 Outlook take on the Mac features even if some of them aren't 100% flushed out yet.

I agree with you in general, but the specific part I mentioned — the aggravating way Mac Outlook handles conversations/threads/what-have-you — is inferior to that of Windows Outlook.
 
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So help me: they better finish the stupid stuff they've been doing with Outlook. There are so many critical features that they either don't have or are so buggy they just call them "Known issues." Conversations is terrible, composing a new message shows up differently depending on where you are in the app when you hit the button, and it won't even autocomplete your email recipients!?? That last one is a deal-breaker no matter what. On what planet does somebody know the actual email addresses for everybody they are going to compose a message to??
 
I really try to not use office but I have to sometimes for work. I guess it's good MS keeps the mac suite updated!

yeah Microsoft got in early just 3yrs prior to 1984 Macintosh announcement. I dare say with Office suite debuting on Mac Apple has been crucial to their success - first UI ms Word.

I always find it funny any of Microsoft’s products is release late in the year or after a calendar year has passed yet the product name is for a former calendar year
 
Outlook on Mac — subscription or no-subscription — has been dead to me since it became clear Microsoft has no intention of making conversations look the same as they do in the Windows version. The "talk bubble" method used in the Mac version is unsuitable.
I'm not sure I'm following. Do you have an example? I use Outlook on both Windows and Mac, and the experience is pretty similar to me. The conversations are grouped the same way as in Windows...at least for how I have it configured.

This is similar to what my view looks like, but I also have the calendar/upcoming meetings showing on the right side. The emails expanded under Daisy Phillips are what I'm referring to as the conversation.

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I'm not sure I'm following. Do you have an example? I use Outlook on both Windows and Mac, and the experience is pretty similar to me. The conversations are grouped the same way as in Windows...at least for how I have it configured.

This is similar to what my view looks like, but I also have the calendar/upcoming meetings showing on the right side. The emails expanded under Daisy Phillips is what I'm referring to as the conversation.

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In Windows Outlook, your own emails appear in each thread so you can see the full thread and not just other people's emails within the thread. I can't tell if that's the case in your screenshot. If so, they did finally resolve it, years after it first received complaints in the now-defunct "Outlook User Voice" part of the Microsoft website.
 
I really try to not use office but I have to sometimes for work. I guess it's good MS keeps the mac suite updated!

yeah Microsoft got in early just 3yrs prior to 1984 Macintosh announcement. I dare say with Office suite debuting on Mac Apple has been crucial to their success - first UI ms Word.

I always find it funny any of Microsoft’s products is release late in the year or after a calendar year has passed yet the product name is for a former calendar year
 
You can't polish a turd. That software has always been such a mess and unintuitive to use.
But I do use it sometimes, to check the compatibility of the templates I designed for my clients... the designs I actually made in Pages. 😂
 
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In Windows Outlook, your own emails appear in each thread so you can see the full thread and not just other people's emails within the thread. I can't tell if that's the case in your screenshot. If so, they did finally resolve it, years after it first received complaints in the now-defunct "Outlook User Voice" part of the Microsoft website.
Gotcha. Yeah, I think it's different or resolved now. If I click on a conversation, it shows the entire email/thread.

Outlook on the iPhone or iPad still has sort of the bubble effect though. I think it has gotten better, but it annoys me when someone puts their responses in someone else's email...makes it hard to see the whole thing.
 
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Editing a lot of papers provides a pretty good insight into MS Word. Word does well with tables of contents, does poorly with graphics and continues to corrupt large files. The problems go back to Word for MS-DOS. As an alternative, try Pages. Even better for long documents, learn TeX and friends. tug.org/mactex
 
Gotcha. Yeah, I think it's different or resolved now. If I click on a conversation, it shows the entire email/thread.
Interesting. In the last version I used a number of months ago, in Microsoft 365/Office 365, the Mac version had only a "talk bubble" interface for seeing all emails — including one's own — in a thread. Thanks for the advisory.
 
Forcing you to use Microsoft cloud products and teams unless you go through nested options, every single time you save a file or create a meeting.

Microsoft has forgotten that these behaviors lost their power position to Apple and Google. Guess old habits die hard.
 
I get 365 through work for free but if I didn't I'd definitely be sticking with the pay once versions.

I don't know about everyone else but I'm pretty much allergic to subscription software. When Adobe Photoshop CS6 was no longer supported I went for Affinity and have been extremely happy with the purchase. Does everything I want yet faster and far less bloated on Mac.

Companies might be desperately pushing this stuff and for some use cases like enterprise I can see it making sense. I'll be looking for good pay once alternatives. I hear Apple's productivity software is pretty good.
 
Kinda odd, only 3 versions of Mac OS back. I have MacBook pro that can’t go past Catalina, so I guess I’m stuck with Office 2011. I won’t rent this type of software.

Yes, it is super annoying how liecense support is working.

i just purchased Office 2019 for my Mac running High Sierra. At the time of purchase, 2019 wouldn’t install on HS since it wasn’t one of the last three operating systems. Nor does Microsoft provide old installers for older Mac OS.

Luckily a friend archived an old Office 2019 installer. Purchased a license from Amazon, and was able to install and active just fine.

The even more ridiculous thing, is once I installed Office 2019 - I was able to update it to the most recent build. The same built Microsoft wouldn’t let me just install on its own.

Oh and I called Microsoft Support about how to deal with all of this, and their only advice was “I suggest you go to an Apple store and speak with them, since you have a Mac”.
 
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In Windows Outlook, your own emails appear in each thread so you can see the full thread and not just other people's emails within the thread. I can't tell if that's the case in your screenshot. If so, they did finally resolve it, years after it first received complaints in the now-defunct "Outlook User Voice" part of the Microsoft website.
Nope - still busted if you're not using the "New Outlook" that breaks a lot of other things.
Is office finally M1 native?
Actually, it has been for a while now...?
 
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We need Native M1 Teams come on, it's like the only sucker app I still need to be.
Agreed, they need to rewrite teams so it's not using the horrible Electron HTML wrapper crap. It's actually a useful piece of software with a lot of potential but has to be the worst performing piece of software I've used in years.
 
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