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Gotcha. Yeah, I think it's different or resolved now. If I click on a conversation, it shows the entire email/thread.

Outlook on the iPhone or iPad still has sort of the bubble effect though. I think it has gotten better, but it annoys me when someone puts their responses in someone else's email...makes it hard to see the whole thing.
On further examination, mainly by checking both Mac Outlook and (in Parallels Desktop) Windows Outlook — I was going to do a brief one-month subscription to MS 365 anyway for other reasons, so I went ahead and did it today — it appears I was right after all and this is still different between Mac and Windows versions. In the Windows version, you can click on a little drop-down arrow next to a conversation/thread and see all the emails, including yours, listed. In the Mac version, clicking the arrow shows all emails except yours; to see yours, also, you have to click on a "talk bubble" icon inside one of the emails in the conversation/thread. Whether this is true in the Office 2021 version as opposed to the Microsoft/Office 365 version, of course, I don't know.

Is this a major issue? No. But I find the extra step and inconsistency annoying, and don't understand why this one feature can't be as convenient in the Mac version as in the Windows version.
 
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I guess outlook for Mac gets no real improvements. Just lipstick on the pig.
Apparently that’s all Mac users care about in MS Office. If I was a Microsoft product manager, I would point to all the Mac user posts about color themes, icon designs and other eye candy. Since those Mac users hardly post anything about matching the functionality of Office for Windows, I would say Mac users don’t care about that.
 
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Terrible use of space in the UI. It would be hard to make the top part of the interface, together with ribbon thicker than in this new 2021 MS Office.

The only thing worse that I have seen this year is MindManager for Mac v13.

What a joke🤦‍♂️

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LAUGH. Collaboration features never worked in Office 365, ever. If I opened up a document that somebody else had open, I immediately got an error stating that I had to close, and re-open, because there was a change to the document. If I made a change, and then tried to save, it failed, because it would say that the other person made changes (to other stuff) and that my changes were being discarded. This was on both Mac and Windows.
Yeah, Google did a much much better job in terms of online collaboration.
 
Apparently that’s all Mac users care about in MS Office. If I was a Microsoft product manager, I would point to all the Mac user posts about color themes, icon designs and other eye candy. Since those Mac users hardly post anything about matching the functionality of Office for Windows, I would say Mac users don’t care about that.
Well I’m a Mac user and need the functionality
 
I'm surprised of the bashing, especially regarding Excel. It is an excellent program and useful to me every single day. Perhaps people are using it for tasks it wasn't meant for?

My excel 2011 is what keeps me on Mac Os 10.14.
 
Have they finished whatever it is they’re doing with outlook yet?
Mine still has a button to switch back to the old because the new one isn’t finished. Will the be a switch back and switch back button in the new one??
I hate to break it to you, but Outlook is being ported to Electron, effectively becoming a web app. I am guessing it will end up resembling Microsoft Teams, which I really hate using.
 
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Well thank God for Numbers, pages and keynote! Should be a matter of time before most people shift
 
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On further examination, mainly by checking both Mac Outlook and (in Parallels Desktop) Windows Outlook — I was going to do a brief one-month subscription to MS 365 anyway for other reasons, so I went ahead and did it today — it appears I was right after all and this is still different between Mac and Windows versions. In the Windows version, you can click on a little drop-down arrow next to a conversation/thread and see all the emails, including yours, listed. In the Mac version, clicking the arrow shows all emails except yours; to see yours, also, you have to click on a "talk bubble" icon inside one of the emails in the conversation/thread. Whether this is true in the Office 2021 version as opposed to the Microsoft/Office 365 version, of course, I don't know.

Is this a major issue? No. But I find the extra step and inconsistency annoying, and don't understand why this one feature can't be as convenient in the Mac version as in the Windows version.
Sure *this* problem is annoying. I hate it but live with it. The one that's mindbogglingly critical is autocomplete of your email recipients.
 
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I'm not sure I'm following. Do you have an example? I use Outlook on both Windows and Mac, and the experience is pretty similar to me. The conversations are grouped the same way as in Windows...at least for how I have it configured.

This is similar to what my view looks like, but I also have the calendar/upcoming meetings showing on the right side. The emails expanded under Daisy Phillips are what I'm referring to as the conversation.

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Off topic, May I ask how you made this transparency? Looks great
 
Off topic, May I ask how you made this transparency? Looks great
You need to be using the new Outlook for Mac, and there's a setting in Outlook Preferences, under General. I think it should be enabled by default though. (Also make sure you don't have 'Reduce transparency' enabled in macOS's Accessibility settings, under Display.)

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You don’t understand why a software company that has employees that need to be paid charges money for software?
This is a program that was specifically made not by programmers, but by a huge number of users, thanks to the constant use of it over the years. This is the same for Photoshop or Illustrator. They can take money for cloud or hardware, as Apple does.
 
This is a program that was specifically made not by programmers, but by a huge number of users, thanks to the constant use of it over the years. This is the same for Photoshop or Illustrator. They can take money for cloud or hardware, as Apple does.

What? It was made by programmers. There’s an entire Office division. Microsoft makes a huge investment every year to keep office going. What a strange thing to suggest they should just give it away.
 
What? It was made by programmers. There’s an entire Office division. Microsoft makes a huge investment every year to keep office going. What a strange thing to suggest they should just give it away.
Programmers have already done their job here a long time ago and received money for it.
Yes, the investment concerns Microsoft 365. The office has unfortunately become a simple bait to lure people into the microsoft environment.
 
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Programmers have already done their job here a long time ago and received money for it.
Yes, the investment concerns Microsoft 365. The office has unfortunately become a simple bait to lure people into the microsoft environment.

Believe it or not, each year many programmers continue to work to bring us the newest versions of office. It’s not like Microsoft wrote word in 1988 and stopped working on it.
 
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