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Believe it or not, each year many programmers continue to work to bring us the newest versions of office. It’s not like Microsoft wrote word in 1988 and stopped working on it.
It sometimes seems like it with all of the legacy support baked in!
 
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Good that there is a non subscription version
It would be if they kept the non-subscription compatible with the subscription version, at least while the non-subscription version is current. Those in my organization use a mixture of Office 2019 and Office 365 (don't ask me why). Using Office 365, I spent a few weekends creating a new Excel tool for my colleagues, only to find that it was unusable by those with Office 2019.
 
So help me: they better finish the stupid stuff they've been doing with Outlook. There are so many critical features that they either don't have or are so buggy they just call them "Known issues." Conversations is terrible, composing a new message shows up differently depending on where you are in the app when you hit the button, and it won't even autocomplete your email recipients!?? That last one is a deal-breaker no matter what. On what planet does somebody know the actual email addresses for everybody they are going to compose a message to??
Outlook will never be anything other than a joke until MS admits that CardDAV/CalDAV exist. Otherwise it will always just be an Exchange client.
 
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One drive is USELESS, its more of a pig than outlook is.
Again, I have to wonder if the lack of functionality is due to incompetence, or a deliberate act to push corporates towards Windows.
 
Do I get the feeling that the pricing is only one seat and I can't have extra users without paying ? It's not clear.

Probably unchanged from 2019 https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-365/buy/microsoft-365?market=af

Office Home & Business 2019
Buy now
Learn more
One-time purchase for 1 PC or Mac
Classic 2019 versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook
Microsoft support included for 60 days at no extra cost
Licensed for home and commercial use
 
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Absolutely agree. Excel is the only reason I purchase Office and it is the only application in the suite for which I haven't yet found a better replacement. Of course since I have to purchase Office anyway, I do use Word and Powerpoint as my main applications. But I do feel there are other better/comparable alternatives to those two.

On a side note - I recently upgraded my Office 2011 to 2019. I was happy to find that Excel was quite a bit snappier and more response in 2019. If you are a heavy Excel user, it might be worth the upgrade from 2011 to 2019 or 2021.
What one has to contemplate before doing that are the radical UI changes in modern versions. I cannot see myself ever getting used to the button-design, ie where all functions can only be found and used from a panel with tiny icons with unintelligible graphics.

Also, all floating windows are removed from later version, and move to sidepanels that interfere with the spreadsheet.
For example, in 2011 I can create, design and modify a pivot table in seconds. In later version I find myself spending much time just digging around th UI trying to find stuff. The same goes for charts, instead of having easy access to series and charts options you need to access multiple panels to format text and graphical elements.

For me, later versions may be snappier, but the time lost in other areas exceed any benefits by a very large factor. YMMV obviously, but if you love the structure of Excel 2011 and your muscle memory is tied to it, you need to contemplate if you can get used to clicking through numerous panels looking for tiny icons.
 
Anyone else tried buying this from MS this morning?

I just paid for MS office for Mac. When I attempted to access the download link, it said something about this is not a Mac version, but instead for PC. The link I clicked on to purchase indicated it was for both. I wasnt able to screenshot it. When I attempted to access the link again via my receipt email, I received a note that I have to access the link from my Microsoft Account. I clicked on that link and it says purchased the PC version. There is no customer phone support available whatsoever as their phone numbers direct you to post on their online forum only.
 
Why not call it Office 2022?
That's the name for the next Windows version. It really jerks my chain that the Mac version continues to be inferior to the Windows version. Market munipulation there, bub. By having the Windows version superior, Windows will remain dominate in the business world.
Someone disagreed that I don’t like Microsoft products. I assure you I don’t.
Not even the games? You're a hard man, man.

I loved the Age of Empire/Mythology series and Flight Simulator. I used to play those for hours a day before married life eliminated all my freetime/me time. I never liked the Xbox much; I'm a PlayStation guy.
 
Anyone else tried buying this from MS this morning?

I just paid for MS office for Mac. When I attempted to access the download link, it said something about this is not a Mac version, but instead for PC. The link I clicked on to purchase indicated it was for both. I wasnt able to screenshot it. When I attempted to access the link again via my receipt email, I received a note that I have to access the link from my Microsoft Account. I clicked on that link and it says purchased the PC version. There is no customer phone support available whatsoever as their phone numbers direct you to post on their online forum only.
The same for me.

I have right now a chat with support - and they don't know anything - not even that there is a 2021 version coming today - they say that it is only a Windows version that is coming today - and that the Mac version has a 3 Year release plan, so it would be a 2022 version.

I don't know why support doesn't know anything.

I have asked for a download link to the standalone installer, and they give the the link to the 2019 installer.
 
Not even the games? You're a hard man, man.

I loved the Age of Empire/Mythology series and Flight Simulator. I used to play those for hours a day before married life eliminated all my freetime/me time. I never liked the Xbox much; I'm a PlayStation guy.
I guess solitaire was pretty good back in the day
 
The same for me.

I have right now a chat with support - and they don't know anything - not even that there is a 2021 version coming today - they say that it is only a Windows version that is coming today - and that the Mac version has a 3 Year release plan, so it would be a 2022 version.

I don't know why support doesn't know anything.

I have asked for a download link to the standalone installer, and they give the the link to the 2019 installer.
I too saw the same issue and was able to chat with someone that got it resolved. All you have to do is go here https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-for-mac and download the latest mac release (which is 16.53). I installed it and logged in to each app with the microsoft account that I made the purchase with. Everything activated and the about prompt shows 'Office 2021 for Mac'.
 
I too saw the same issue and was able to chat with someone that got it resolved. All you have to do is go here https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-for-mac and download the latest mac release (which is 16.53). I installed it and logged in to each app with the microsoft account that I made the purchase with. Everything activated and the about prompt shows 'Office 2021 for Mac'.
I already have the latest 2019 release 16.53 installed - which is the one you download from the link you posted.

But tried what you wrote - but still only 2019 release 16.53 installed.

EDIT:
I now have the 2021 license in my installed Office release 16.53 - I had to run the license removal tool - and then afterwards open one of the office apps, and activate again with the new 2021 license.
 
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I already have the latest 2019 release 16.53 installed - which is the one you download from the link you posted.

But tried what you wrote - but still only 2019 release 16.53 installed.

EDIT:
I now have the 2021 license in my installed Office release 16.53 - I had to run the license removal tool - and then afterwards open one of the office apps, and activate again with the new 2021 license.
I have tried this, but it comes up saying Version 16.55 which is not Office 2021
 
The same for me.

I have right now a chat with support - and they don't know anything - not even that there is a 2021 version coming today - they say that it is only a Windows version that is coming today - and that the Mac version has a 3 Year release plan, so it would be a 2022 version.

I don't know why support doesn't know anything.

I have asked for a download link to the standalone installer, and they give the the link to the 2019 installer.
The chat support guy that I had said there's an issue with the Mac version and that "engineers are working on it"
I too saw the same issue and was able to chat with someone that got it resolved. All you have to do is go here https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-for-mac and download the latest mac release (which is 16.53). I installed it and logged in to each app with the microsoft account that I made the purchase with. Everything activated and the about prompt shows 'Office 2021 for Mac'.
That did it for me. Except when I was guided by the phone person, they gave me Office Pro instead of home. Customer service? Anyway, I'm on 2021 lifetime now.
 
What one has to contemplate before doing that are the radical UI changes in modern versions. I cannot see myself ever getting used to the button-design, ie where all functions can only be found and used from a panel with tiny icons with unintelligible graphics.

Also, all floating windows are removed from later version, and move to sidepanels that interfere with the spreadsheet.
For example, in 2011 I can create, design and modify a pivot table in seconds. In later version I find myself spending much time just digging around th UI trying to find stuff. The same goes for charts, instead of having easy access to series and charts options you need to access multiple panels to format text and graphical elements.

For me, later versions may be snappier, but the time lost in other areas exceed any benefits by a very large factor. YMMV obviously, but if you love the structure of Excel 2011 and your muscle memory is tied to it, you need to contemplate if you can get used to clicking through numerous panels looking for tiny icons.

Those are all very good points.
I had been using the Windows version of Office, when working with various clients, so the UI changes from Excel 2011 weren't that dramatic for me. I tend to ignore the side panels as best as I can anyway, and stick with hotkeys. Definitely use whatever toolset you find to be the most productive!
 
The install link on my MS account is now working for me - BUT it is still the 16.53 version I got downloaded - which is Office 2019

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