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Some of the talk on the skulltrail was about the better RAM bandwidth on the chipset and how Intel worked with memory makers to reduce DIMM temps.

Along with the bump in cache, it does seem like a winner.

Cannot find that RAM story though.
 
Hmm, I think the RAM does have something to do with it. My Macbook seems slower with 4GB, and lots of people have said they feel a slow down after adding RAM.

I'm guessing if you add extra RAM that's not needed, it'll slow down the system.

- like me, I usually only use about 2GB RAM out of my 4GB

RAM that's not needed? Surly RAM can always be used – if it's not in active use it's keeping recent programs and docs cached right?

I thought Macs love RAM. This too much RAM is bad stuff is confusing me.
 
it's making me feel all glowy and fuzzy and warm inside checking out this thread. i'm waiting for my mp with 8800gt to ship and so far all i've seen are the "this doesn't work, that doesn't work, i've sent mine back" type threads. nice to see that people are finding it awesome when it does work :)
 
it's making me feel all glowy and fuzzy and warm inside checking out this thread. i'm waiting for my mp with 8800gt to ship and so far all i've seen are the "this doesn't work, that doesn't work, i've sent mine back" type threads. nice to see that people are finding it awesome when it does work :)
Remember that people will post when there's a problem, they won't so much when everything is fine, as will be the case with most of them.
 
Are Any Of You, Like Me, Filling Up Your New MP With 32GB Of RAM?

RAM that's not needed? Surly RAM can always be used – if it's not in active use it's keeping recent programs and docs cached right?

I thought Macs love RAM. This too much RAM is bad stuff is confusing me.
I'm populating my 3.2GHz model with 32GB of RAM. I think the story of "too much RAM can be a bad thing" was started by someone who can't afford eight 4GB sticks so they decided to poo poo the idea of fully populating a new Mac Pro.

Are there any others here who are planning on spending the extra $2900 at OWC for a full set of RAM sticks maxed out to the full 32GB? :) I want the ULTIMATE Mac this time round. Been waiting 14 months for this moment. Why cripple this thing in any way?

I see DEATH up ahead. I'd rather be computing to the max cause I can't do it after I die.
 
I see DEATH up ahead. I'd rather be computing to the max cause I can't do it after I die.
Interesting rationale. You know, some of us are actually using these Macs for work/business tasks, and think about it in terms of a cost/benefit analysis. Yet others have to deal with the nasty reality of budget constraints. And for a few of us, both things apply...

- Martin
 
Share my testing results, unbelievable too.

I used Popcorn 3 to convert a 2 hour DVD to Ipod Video High quality settings,

My iMac G5 2.1(isight) 2.5g Ram bought 2 years ago, took 280 minutes and with 95-100% CPU usage, cant even surf the net.

My Mac Pro 8-core Mac Pro 2g Ram early 2008, took only 28 minutes and with 370% CPU usage, about 40% across 8 processors so still can do other things.

Wow, 10 times different in only 2 years, and the result of iDVD, 2.7g project file

My iMac took 60 minutes vs MacPro 20 minutes only.

I am very happy with this incredible maching, go out and buy one and you will never be disappointed......
 
I'd be curious to know how that runs when you get it. I can see myself maxing out at 32GB next year at some point. However, by next year I will probably want the newest MacPro out too. lol

Yeah, next year it will probably be the new 4 x 3.8Ghz Quad Core Mac Pro (16 Cores).
 
The problem is that it's going to be outdated in a month or two.

Nvidia is planning to release their 9800 during feb or march, and knowing Apple, they will probably ship that card during their Mac Pro 2009 release...
 
Yeah, next year it will probably be the new 4 x 3.8Ghz Quad Core Mac Pro (16 Cores).

OK, I have to sit down right now - the thought of that makes me queasy... WOW! That is a far cry from my PB!

And I'm just waiting for an Octo 2.8 to be available of the refurb list.
 
I'll second that motion, and the computer is just quiet in general. I can never tell if its still on. lol

Are they really that quiet? I am thinking of jumping from my 2.8ghz imac and getting a dual 2.8 mac pro but sound is a big issue for me. I currently have 2 external iomega ultramax drives and have to keep them turned off as I think their fans are too noisey :(
 
The problem is that it's going to be outdated in a month or two.
Everything is always going to be outdated in the near future, but you have to jump in at some point. I feel I've got my £££ worth with the octo 2.8 and will be happy with it for a good many years yet, even if it's not the latest and greatest.
 
Remember that people will post when there's a problem, they won't so much when everything is fine, as will be the case with most of them.

indeed. still nice to see the happy posts though :)

/checks order status on apple's site
/checks order status on apple's site
/taps foot
/checks order status on apple's site again
/cries
 
Everything is always going to be outdated in the near future, but you have to jump in at some point. I feel I've got my £££ worth with the octo 2.8 and will be happy with it for a good many years yet, even if it's not the latest and greatest.

Yea, same here, I didn't want to jump in on the Woodcrest knowing that Harpertown was right around the corner. I am extremely happy with what I purchased and don't mind hanging on for a few years with it.

Are they really that quiet?

They are super quiet. I mean, I'm coming from a G4 which was loud. So this is just a huge difference. My Lacie's are like 50x louder than it. lol

Yeah, next year it will probably be the new 4 x 3.8Ghz Quad Core Mac Pro (16 Cores).

I think a better name would be 2 x 3.8GHz Octo-Core MacPro. lol That would rock. haha, Either way the next one will be insaner. lol
 
RAM that's not needed? Surly RAM can always be used – if it's not in active use it's keeping recent programs and docs cached right?

I thought Macs love RAM. This too much RAM is bad stuff is confusing me.

I've currently got 381MB free, and that's running / having run 2 virtual machines. I've never had '0MB free', (1MB was the least) so I'm guessing that there's 1MB that's not needed :p

boot times is the thing that's supposed to be affected by adding more RAM, but once you're in, all should be well. :)
 

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darthraige, I took the advice you provided me a couple weeks ago on the speed of this beast and stuck with the 2.8, rather than doing the 3.2 upgrade I was considering. This thread confirms your wisdom. Thanks, Bud. I put the money saved into a 30 inch ACD, and extra RAM. Feelin good. :)

I think you're misinterpreting his post. He's comparing a new "Early 2008 2.8" to the previous (pre-Harpertown) 3.0. The current 3.2 (Harpertown) would be even faster than the aforementioned 2.8 in this test. The thread title is a little misleading, but it does serve to grab the eye.
 
Is there any way you could run the benchmark with one physical cpu disabled? I'd be very curious to see the results with just a single quad core cpu running. Something tells me that it would be very similar performance - I somehow doubt that the other four cores are working very hard in most tasks. These are fantastic cpus and a single quad-core is probably smoking all by itself!
 
I think a better name would be 2 x 3.8GHz Octo-Core MacPro. lol That would rock. haha, Either way the next one will be insaner. lol

The problem arises as soon as you realize that Nehalem is actually not an Octo-core processor but rather a Quad-core processor with the benefit of HyperThreading.
 
Well, what is amazing to me is that all the numbers say the 2.8 is slower or at least as fast at the old 3ghz octo. Real world tests show it annihilates the 3ghz. It shows that a 3ghz harpertown is twice as fast as the 3ghz it replaces.
 
Well, what is amazing to me is that all the numbers say the 2.8 is slower or at least as fast at the old 3ghz octo. Real world tests show it annihilates the 3ghz. It shows that a 3ghz harpertown is twice as fast as the 3ghz it replaces.

You are refering to your single Elgato encoding result?
 
Amazing man! You don't know how much this helps us all here!

I must sell my old mac pro and get the new one. I thought I could easily place 2x quad into here, but I find out its so much faster , its a must have!

Too bad avisynth doesn't work so well on Vista and not compatible for osx.
 
I'm tempted to get one of these in place of my 2.66 quad. I bet my wife wouldn't even notice if I swapped them in the middle of the night :D
First I have to line up a buyer for my old machine who will be willing to come to my house between 2 and 4 am. Mac Pros are just too damn big to hide around the house for long ;)
 
I think you're misinterpreting his post. He's comparing a new "Early 2008 2.8" to the previous (pre-Harpertown) 3.0. The current 3.2 (Harpertown) would be even faster than the aforementioned 2.8 in this test. The thread title is a little misleading, but it does serve to grab the eye.

Thanks, Eric, but I did understand the test format. Just saying that the performance upgrade from the prior pro has apparently been substancial, enough so that I don't think I'm going to be disappointed in my dicision to go with the 2.8. Doing so saved me with enough money to buy all my RAM, and upgrade from a 23" display to a 30". Wow, that 30"er is nice.
 
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