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So which is cheaper? OLED or miniLED? Burning issues of OLED? These screen are on 12h a day at least. Any issue with the menu bar being permanently "on" after awhile.
Considering all iPhone 12 models have an OLED screen with the exception of the budget SE 2020, I am guessing that the iPad Pro will get the OLED treatment in 2021/22 and iPad Air and Mini will receive the mini-led treatment while the budget stays at led.

If any MacBook receives an OLED it will be the Pro models for 2021/22 and it maybe a CTO or top end model. Similar to when TouchBar was introduced in 2016.

Burn-in possible when pixel shift has been around since iPhone X when it went OLED. Colour temperature and saturation is another issue all together.
 
My iPad just gets used as a HUGE media Player for Audio and Video

When they start making 15 to 17 inch models with True Split screen , more RAM , An IOS file system so you can actually save files, more ports.......

THEN My iPad will be a REAL COMPUTER
 
My iPad just gets used as a HUGE media Player for Audio and Video

When they start making 15 to 17 inch models with True Split screen , more RAM , An IOS file system so you can actually save files, more ports.......

THEN My iPad will be a REAL COMPUTER

this feels like one of those “get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!” posts
 
Apple develops a ton of tech. Including microprocessors, customized LCDs, custom display driver circuitry, GPUs, apple pencil, etc. etc. Just because they don’t manufacture those things doesn’t mean they didn’t develop them.

Wrong. Apple can make a few worthless customizations to a manufacturer's reference design to call it customized, but the underlying technology belongs to the manufacturer to improve yield rates, reduce ramp-up risk and lower costs.

As the great Elon Musk said, manufacturing is the most difficult and important part of tech development. Designing is one the easiest steps. It's the magic of manufacturing that determines the limits of your design. Designers only need to carefully play around the limits of the manufacturing process, but their overall impact to performance and quality is very minimal.
IE. Look at AMD vs Intel processors. When AMD had the process advantage, their CPUs started outperforming Intel's.
 
Wrong. Apple can make a few worthless customizations to a manufacturer's reference design to call it customized, but the underlying technology belongs to the manufacturer to improve yield rates, reduce ramp-up risk and lower costs.

As the great Elon Musk said, manufacturing is the most difficult and important part of tech development. Designing is one the easiest steps. It's the magic of manufacturing that determines the limits of your design. Designers only need to carefully play around the limits of the manufacturing process, but their overall impact to performance and quality is very minimal.
IE. Look at AMD vs Intel processors. When AMD had the process advantage, their CPUs started outperforming Intel's.

I worked at AMD designing processors. The statement above is so lacking in factual basis it’s unclear where even to begin to address it. But simply comparing AMD to M1 now, and seeing how apple trounces AMD in performance per watt, disproves your entire hypothesis.
 
I worked at AMD designing processors. The statement above is so lacking in factual basis it’s unclear where even to begin to address it. But simply comparing AMD to M1 now, and seeing how apple trounces AMD in performance per watt, disproves your entire hypothesis.
The M1 is on a 5nm process while AMD's latest are on 7nm. You haven't disproven anything; in fact, you only made my argument stronger.
The M1's magic comes from TSMC's 5nm process. Anyone can design something similar to the M1. It's not hard. Fab-less "Designing" is more about cost-benefit analysis than actual technological progress. It most certainly is not as hard as designing the actual fabbing process (There is only 1 company in the world that can do it), nor is it that important. Anyone can do it.
 
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I thought mini led was supposed to be superior to oled
Yeah, that's what I read also.. Same upside of OLED without the burn out issues (TV no issues) but would be on a computer screen.. I doubt OLED will ever come to normal displays we use for computers on scale, unless they iron out the burn out problems..
 
I doubt apple will release a new MacBook Pro with mini-led display this year, and then change the display technology the year after.
 
Yeah, that's what I read also.. Same upside of OLED without the burn out issues (TV no issues) but would be on a computer screen.. I doubt OLED will ever come to normal displays we use for computers on scale, unless they iron out the burn out problems..
MiniLED is still LCD just more advanced backlighting and doesn't come near OLED
 
The M1 is on a 5nm process while AMD's latest are on 7nm. You haven't disproven anything; in fact, you only made my argument stronger.
The M1's magic comes from TSMC's 5nm process. Anyone can design something similar to the M1. It's not hard. Fab-less "Designing" is more about cost-benefit analysis than actual technological progress. It most certainly is not as hard as designing the actual fabbing process (There is only 1 company in the world that can do it), nor is it that important. Anyone can do it.
It’s better to admit you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about rather than doubling down on intellectual dishonesty.
 
It's the magic of manufacturing that determines the limits of your design. Designers only need to carefully play around the limits of the manufacturing process, but their overall impact to performance and quality is very minimal.

"Anyone can write a book, it's the intricacies of the printing industry which makes the real difference." OK.
 
Weren't miniLED devices supposed to arrive this year, in fact, iPads as soon as March? Why rumors about OLED for next year? Something's fishy.
 
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Wrong. Apple can make a few worthless customizations to a manufacturer's reference design to call it customized, but the underlying technology belongs to the manufacturer to improve yield rates, reduce ramp-up risk and lower costs.

As the great Elon Musk said, manufacturing is the most difficult and important part of tech development. Designing is one the easiest steps. It's the magic of manufacturing that determines the limits of your design. Designers only need to carefully play around the limits of the manufacturing process, but their overall impact to performance and quality is very minimal.
IE. Look at AMD vs Intel processors. When AMD had the process advantage, their CPUs started outperforming Intel's.
Troll...108 comments of anti Apple nonsense... get a life dude!
 
It’s better to admit you are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about rather than doubling down on intellectual dishonesty.
You need both the design and the fab competence to succeed and they are equally important. Do you think it is easy to fab chips with 5 nm features? I bet the processes protocols are under strict NDA and that knowledge is the edge that TMSC has at the moment. Otherwise, all others would just copy and paste. Not far ago, Samsung was the leader in fab. The reason Intel is behind on the node scale is not lack of funding for buying machines for photopatterning at 5 nm scale but they lack people with the knowledge to operate said machines to get good chips out.
 
Apple Marketing will call it "MagicOLED" or something, never underestimate AppleMagic.
Not sure what OLED he's using but text on my iPhone X looks pretty sharp.

The M1 is on a 5nm process while AMD's latest are on 7nm. You haven't disproven anything; in fact, you only made my argument stronger.
The M1's magic comes from TSMC's 5nm process. Anyone can design something similar to the M1. It's not hard. Fab-less "Designing" is more about cost-benefit analysis than actual technological progress. It most certainly is not as hard as designing the actual fabbing process (There is only 1 company in the world that can do it), nor is it that important. Anyone can do it.

This post doesn't make any hint of sense.
 
You need both the design and the fab competence to succeed and they are equally important. Do you think it is easy to fab chips with 5 nm features? I bet the processes protocols are under strict NDA and that knowledge is the edge that TMSC has at the moment. Otherwise, all others would just copy and paste. Not far ago, Samsung was the leader in fab. The reason Intel is behind on the node scale is not lack of funding for buying machines for photopatterning at 5 nm scale but they lack people with the knowledge to operate said machines to get good chips out.
Nobody said one trumps another, only @AppleShareholder, but we went this road before. Before it's Samsung fab that made A processors beats everyone, including Samsung's own. Now in 2021 it's because of TSMC. Looks like Apple never get credit it deserves.
 
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