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So let me get this straight. iPhone 8 is going to have OLED display and redesign but will not have touchID and will cost £1200. Instead, 7S will have touchID and will cost £800. Hmm, who is going to buy iPhone 8? Unless the 8 is loaded with tons of things and 7S just has nothing then I don't see it much. 7S has to offer a lot new stuff too otherwise they will not make people happy.
For me - no touchID = no buy (also if those cutout lines on the top are true then its no buy regardless)
 
I’ll wait. But more Note8s are showing up here at work and they are awfully purty....
Make sure you have a fire extinguisher ready.

Jokes aside, the note line has been garbage. The note 4 was the best note, as 5 had really bad batteries, 6 was over priced, and 7 blew up...
 
So let me get this straight. iPhone 8 is going to have OLED display and redesign but will not have touchID and will cost £1200. Instead, 7S will have touchID and will cost £800. Hmm, who is going to buy iPhone 8? Unless the 8 is loaded with tons of things and 7S just has nothing then I don't see it much. 7S has to offer a lot new stuff too otherwise they will not make people happy.
For me - no touchID = no buy (also if those cutout lines on the top are true then its no buy regardless)

That begs the question.... what are people buying the OLED iPhone for. The other iPhones will have everything but the OLED display, semi edge to edge design with notch and mice ears, and the 3D Face ID. But these non-OLED iPhones will indeed have the luxury of Touch ID that never fails. Therefore, they may be the overall more useful and convenient devices.
 
I'm not a iPhone fan at all but Apple should know that their fanbase has been looking forward to a OLED iPhone for the past few years. Why would they not have their shipments in order. The OLED iPhone should have been a first priority and should be the absolute first phone shipped and delivered to their customers.

I would be mad.....they have enough resources to not allow this to happen...no excuses.

You’re absolutely right, which means the supply issue is purposeful. It’s the only logical reason. Basic economic manipulation: make supply fall far short of demand, and jack up the price. It’s just good business.
 
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I really hope this is not true, but i wouldnt be surprised after all leaks about apple having trouble with production:/
 
8 too expensive for you? Don't buy a 7S, buy a discounted 7.

Don't reward Apple for this faux-premium stuff, the 8 should be the standard phone and the 7S shouldn't even be a thing.

Never have truer words been spoken on this forum.

Honestly, I'm just waiting for the event so the 7 plus drops in price a bit more. Either that or go for the S8 Plus.

Wireless charging: not interested
Glass back: not interested
Faster chip: not interested
Put OIS on the second rear camera: interested but won't bite because this should've come on the 7 plus.
 
You’re absolutely right, which means the supply issue is purposeful. It’s the only logical reason. Basic economic manipulation: make supply fall far short of demand, and jack up the price. It’s just good business.

Apple depends on their iPhone to sell and profit...anyway to increase demand and they will do it. This is their way of increasing demand then ramping up supply to that increased demand..it's smart but very selfish.
 
So....

* Ships later than the 22nd
* No Touch ID
* Weird looking notch thing
* $1,000 price tag
* Wireless charger won't be fast charging
* Charger in box is apparently just a standard speed charger

All of the above are obviously rumors, but if they become true then it's really discouraging and make the Note 8 look very appealing.

Don't forget the UGLY camera bump! Frankly, no matter what gimmicks Apple offers such as "digital-lifestyle apps" like iMovie, Clips, GarageBand and their pathetic first-party productivity apps Pages, Keynote, and Numbers I wouldn't be caught dead using this phone. Notes, Reminders, News, FaceTime. User interface rules. Security. Apple Pay. 3D Touch. Just gimmicks.

I don't know anyone who thinks of their phone as a tool-based device. Everyone uses third-party apps and services. This Swiss Army-knife approach to building iOS has been disastrous. Most people game or use social media on their phones. No one is using a phone to do any kind of productivity or lifestyle management. The folks at Apple might use Calendar, Reminders, and Notes for their schedules and the folks at Apple might be the only ones crafting home movies and slide shows with Clips and Photos or laying down rough demos using Music Memos, but frankly, no one else does. A phone is a not a tool, so please, Apple, stop this tool-based approach to your products.

Apple makes something like 50 productivity and creativity apps. Insane waste of time. They could have spent that time on putting Touch ID into the next phone. They could have spent that time on TRUE wireless charging. They could have spent that time making a TRUE bezel-less display. But instead we have that weird-looking notch thing. And a camera bump. Yup, Apple has created a $1,000 phone with a notch and a camera bump. Ugliest phone ever designed.

Oh, what's that? It's how you USE the phone that counts? Please. It's all about how it LOOKS. 3D Touch is a gimmick. The trackpad mode to easily adjust the insertion point in text is a gimmick. What problem is this solving? How does this improve human interface design? Previewing links with a hard press? Quick Actions to app functions? What? Who asked for such a gimmick? In my opinion, even though the new sexy Samsung Galaxy S8 does not have this so-called innovation, it's a more useful device because it has a beautiful display. It doesn't need first-party apps like iMovie or Pages or iBooks or News or Reminders or stupid tech like pressure sensitivity.

But Apple is asking for $1,000 for a phone because of what it can do. Ha. Well. I hope the people who buy it enjoy "doing" stuff with it, but I'll be laughing at it because of the notch and camera bump.
 
if the 7s offers better battery life I will ditch my 7 plus and use my iPad Pro for most of my major entertainment consumption.

I was initially all in for the edition model but these rumors are making it sound more and more like I won't be able to justify a premium price tag. At some point all the bells and whistles mean nothing.
 
I'm going to be pretty irritated if I get this new iPhone in October or November and next year they tell me I'm not eligible for my iPhone Upgrade Program swap until October or November.
Huh? You can't wait a year?! Big whup. If they release the 2018 iPhone version in September of 2018, you'll be able to wait I'll bet. ;)
 
8 too expensive for you? Don't buy a 7S, buy a discounted 7.

Don't reward Apple for this faux-premium stuff, the 8 should be the standard phone and the 7S shouldn't even be a thing.
It is a thing really. You do realize their is a shortage of OLED. They will only be able to produce a couple millions units for now. If the "8" was the only model they were putting up for sale, there will be a lot of unhappy customers. The 7s is there for a reason.
 
I feel it will ship on time in limited numbers why would apple have the event on the 12th if they were not ready to go they could have had the event 2 weeks later if they were not ready there is no way they will have 7s launch before 8 as this will make many customers unhappy. Also one day all the rumors say delays the next day they say 3 models are all coming at the same time. I feel TechCrunch and others are just repeating old news and rumors here. Let's just hope apple doesn't disappoint on Tuesday.
 
I'm going to be pretty irritated if I get this new iPhone in October or November and next year they tell me I'm not eligible for my iPhone Upgrade Program swap until October or November.
I think they slipped when I signed up initially for the upgrade program because I swear they said I was upgrade eligible after 6 months.
 
That is my concern as well! there are cycles for this exact reason
And once they mess up the cycle, we'll be getting iPhone upgrades late forever. Once they introduced this they really need to stay on their cycle. Does it say anywhere in the fine print if it's purchased in the launch window that we can upgrade at the next launch? Otherwise there's going to be a whole lot of pissed people in autumn 2018. Surely they've thought of this, but last year my iPhone 6s was replaced due to defective overheating home button and they didn't account for a different device ID when I went to upgrade and it caused all kinds of problems and multiple calls to Apple to get things straightened out. So I don't have a lot of hope that they'll think ahead about anything related to this program!
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Huh? You can't wait a year?! Big whup. If they release the 2018 iPhone version in September of 2018, you'll be able to wait I'll bet. ;)
I've bought every iPhone on launch day. There are a lot of us who do this. We like having the bleeding edge devices and don't want to wait. If I'm plopppiny down $1099 on the 256GB model I better not have to wait next year if it's available at launch. I understand having to wait this year, but not if it's already available next year!
 
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8 too expensive for you? Don't buy a 7S, buy a discounted 7.

Don't reward Apple for this faux-premium stuff, the 8 should be the standard phone and the 7S shouldn't even be a thing.
I don't get it either to be quite honest. Fragmentation is annoying.
 
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I think they slipped when I signed up initially for the upgrade program because I swear they said I was upgrade eligible after 6 months.
Yeah I upgraded at launch last year and it just said earlier in August that I was eligible. So there's a small fudge factor (12 months total of payments would be complete in August) and I suppose we could pay the extra month, but it would be a dick move on Apple's part to make us pay an extra month or two to upgrade.
 
Why? Even the year old 7+ is better than a Note 8:

* better operating system (IMHO)
* screen has better outdoor visibility and viewing angles
* almost twice the CPU performance
* better camera
* longer battery life
* the finger print sensor is not on the fscking back


If you're price sensitive, next week the 7+ will be available at discounted prices – far cheaper than the Note 8.
* Can't fault iOS, but over recent years, I feel Android is on par, if not better than iOS and I need a change after 8 years of iPhone. It's Touchwiz that concerns me more than anything.
* Note 8 has the highest display brightness on record at 1200 nits, higher than any other phone that's been made. The iPhone 7 only has 625 nits in comparison, so i'm not sure how you've come to that conclusion.
* Camera performance based on reviews put the Note 8 on par with the iPhone 7. In fact, I think the Live Focus mode does a better job than the iPhone 7's Portrait mode.
* can't comment on battery life, but based on reviews the Note 8's battery performance lasts a full day which is good enough for me
* Yep, fingerprint sensor on the back is annoying, but its something I'm willing to compromise on. Compare that to the rumoured iPhone 8, there'll be no fingerprint sensor at all :/
 
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