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nobody is forcing the ioc to arrange the events either, what's your point?

if apple, the company, was involved in hijacking the commercial value of the event i'd see the issue. but they're not. all apple gear at the event will be personal belongings, not something the athletes received in a goodie bag, with a catch even, last time they visited an apple store.

i wonder if the samsung goodie bag is even optional.

My point is that since it's IOC's event it's perfectly within their right to set the terms for the participation of the athletes. If the athletes don't like it they're free to not participate. Did that point really fly past above your head?

Yes they are the Mother Teresa of Tech and do it purely for charity. :cool:

Well, it seems like many Apple fanboys in this thread think that's what they should do. Funny how when articles about Apple's unethical tax evasion schemes pop up on Macrumors these same fanboys are all like "Apple is not a charity, they're a business and do all they can to maximize profits, like all smart business".

I find it questionable that the usage of a non-sponsored phone in public without mentioning the brand explicitly would break those rules.

They're asked to cover the logos (during the opening ceremony), not to stop using their phone. Displaying logos is certainly comparable to "mention".

That could be a tough one...
What if, say, Nike were the main sponsor, but Adidas sponsors some athletes themselves? I'm sure they cannot enforce any "cover-up" (of the logos) then.

Of course they can, "they" being the IOC. It's the IOC's event, they set the rules and if the athletes or their personal sponsors don't like it they're free to not participate.

If the BBC use iPads when making a broadcast, will those logos be covered?
- Yes, they will as they are all part of the sponsorship deal. But some people will still notice the "cover-up".

I'm not sure if BBC, being public service, is ever allowed to display any commercial branding.

Whatever way you see it... Samsung seems to need to request people who use non-Samsung stuff to cover logos, and the request itself hints at lacking in self confidence.

If I see many covered-up logos during the opening ceremony, I will have a huge laugh . Can't wait! :D

Again, this is the policy that the IOC has had and enforced during every game, regardless of which sponsor it is.
 
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I don't think you get the point AppleScruff1 is making... you state that you will not be able to watch the olympics because samsung is one of the main sponsors ... and that realy is like your da vinci example...

I didn't. Somebody else did but I don't think because of Samsung sponsoring it but because of the restriction is pushing, which personaly am not bothered and I don't see it as something unique to Samsung.

My comment was more general to the misconception around here that Apple products do contain componens made by other companies and therfore are not entirely Apple's merit.
 
pretty ridiculous, be it samsung or anyone else. phones are very much personal items, stuffed with favorite music, family photos, sms and mail correspondence, tactical notes, etc. why would an athlete waste time transferring all that and at the same time getting to learn a new os? my guess is they have other priorities.



but do they force the athletes to only eat from their menu? same thing.

They're not forcing the athletes to use Samsung. Just don't flash any competitor products in public, unless the logos are covered.
 
I wonder why Renzatic hasn't made an appearance in this thread yet? He must be over in Russia handing out the Samsung goodie bags. :D:D:D

Yes we miss some of the well known Samsung/Google defenders of the forum :D

The others are more or less all here

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That's the main reason. The other?

...well, there's really no other way to put it...

...some of the responses I've been reading here are kinda scary, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to get involved. The whole thread feels a little too uncomfortably close to the first stages of a particularly bad soccer riot. All it'll take is the wrong person glancing over and seeing a Galaxy phone, then...BAM! We're all suddenly living out that one scene from The Hunger Games.
Ok, complete now :cool:
 
They only have to cover up the apple logo, not stop using their iphone.

What's wrong with you guys ?
They are Athletes, NOT actors of a movie.
They have no rights to ask them to modify in any way their personal devices !

We are not speaking about sport gears showed during a race. We are speaking about their freaking phone !
Who the hell is Samsung to ask them to hide their personal gadgets ?
There is no Olympic rule that prohibits the use of phones or cameras during the national parade, right ? So they can use THEIR OWN DEVICES.

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Aaaannnnnnndddd that's where you lost all credibility......

Just using the same tone of the Samsung defender here .... Or do you think "fanboy" related to any Apple user of this forum is more acceptable ?
 
My point is that since it's IOC's event it's perfectly within their right to set the terms for the participation of the athletes. If the athletes don't like it they're free to not participate. Did that point really fly past above your head?

Well, no, it's not the IOC's event. The Olympic Games are a historical event, started in ancient greek, where everyone should be allowed to compete in a peaceful way. The Olympic Games don't belong to the IOC, they belong to the whole world and all the athletes in the world wanting to compete in a peaceful manner.

The IOC is more and more perverting the spirit of the Olympic Games. What you are saying is that because the IOC has the power, they should be allowed to continue with this perversion. I don't think so.

And I don't know when it changed, but not too many years ago an athlete accepting expensive presents from a sponsor would have been a violation of the rules and that athlete would have been sent home. And now Samsung seems to make expensive presents to any athlete. No doubt more expensive presents to the much more important IOC members.

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This whole story should finally put to rest the old lie that the Olympics are about the athletes. Total hogwash. It's all about the sponsors and their efforts to game an already corrupted system -- to the point of actually dictating the content and imagery that can be shown during the games and ceremonies. Serious question: which is more corrupt? The Olympics or American wrestling?

I thought American wrestling was a TV show, which employs quite capable athletes as actors. So I didn't think there was anything going on that can be called "corruption", just staged entertainment. I may be wrong, of course.

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Some of the comments on this thread are just crazy.

It's the Olympics. There are rules to follow, including those for sponsorship.

I had a mate attending the Sydney games who was refused entry to an event because he had a can of Pepsi, because it was sponsored by Coke (or it was KFC and McDonalds, can't remember).

I'm sure if the situation was reversed you wouldn't be blasting Apple for the decision to ban Samsung devices.

I'm absolutely sure that if it was reversed I _would_ be blasting Apple. And if your mate was refused entry because he had a can of Pepsi and not a can of Coke, how is that anything other than totally ****ed up?
 
The Olympic Games will be a bit boring if they disqualify everyone showing there Apple Devices :)
 
Well, no, it's not the IOC's event. The Olympic Games are a historical event, started in ancient greek, where everyone should be allowed to compete in a peaceful way. The Olympic Games don't belong to the IOC, they belong to the whole world and all the athletes in the world wanting to compete in a peaceful manner.

The IOC is more and more perverting the spirit of the Olympic Games. What you are saying is that because the IOC has the power, they should be allowed to continue with this perversion. I don't think so.

And I don't know when it changed, but not too many years ago an athlete accepting expensive presents from a sponsor would have been a violation of the rules and that athlete would have been sent home. And now Samsung seems to make expensive presents to any athlete. No doubt more expensive presents to the much more important IOC members.

The modern games are a little over 100 years old and don't have much in common with the ancient games. The modern games DOES belong to the IOC, that's just they way it is, most of the world has embraced private ownership and denounced collective ownership. Of course, this fact isn't changed by the reality that the IOC is a big, greedy and corrupt entity, which it certainly is.
 
The modern games are a little over 100 years old and don't have much in common with the ancient games. The modern games DOES belong to the IOC, that's just they way it is, most of the world has embraced private ownership and denounced collective ownership. Of course, this fact isn't changed by the reality that the IOC is a big, greedy and corrupt entity, which it certainly is.

which is considered a good thing today and companies like apple are expected to be exactly just that yet this has over 400 posts.
 
It certainly was implied in the original message. Hence the word "help."

"Samsung helps the Olympics. Why can't Apple help the Olympics too?" That was the clear implication.

A clear indication for someone who wanted to pick a fight (so to speak)

I didn't read anything into KDarling's statement where he implied companies do this for altruistic reasons or not.
 
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Don't expect common sense on a forum for Apple fan...s. If Apple would do the same thing, everybody here would be singing Hail Mary.
Exactly……and if they were supplying the network and bandwidth they would make it so ONLY Apple devices would work or get full functionality.
 
Flash an apple fruit instead !!!
Flash an apple fruit instead !!!
Flash an apple fruit instead !!!
Flash an apple fruit instead !!!
Flash an apple fruit instead !!!

... then bite it in front of the camera !
 
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I don't think you get the point AppleScruff1 is making... you state that you will not be able to watch the olympics because samsung is one of the main sponsors ... and that realy is like your da vinci example...


Hmmm....not sure who has been defeated....Apple? Samsung? The Olympic Games?
Apple: not likely, they make loads of money with a stable marketshare
Samsung: not likely, they make loads of money (smaller loads but, I would still gladly add that to my income)
Olympic Games: possibly for having lost any form of integrity and the connection to what the games once stood for... Ever since the 1984 "commercialisation" games it's been downhill from something with a meaning (you know...peace, understanding, embracing other cultures...those silly non-comercial ideas) towards a full blown PR-Event...
RIP Olympics, may Samaranch get what he deserves for killing you!

All part of the great capitalist world we have created, money money money.
And as for the athletes, I do believe they get paid only by sponsorship, many have full time jobs and have to train around them, people forget that. Without sponsorship some sports wouldn't exist.
An archer isn't a formula 1 driver.
 
That's a very poor comparison. It's one thing to control what appears in your very controlled movie, it's quite another to ask hundreds of athletes to hide the Apple logos on the devices they use every day, and will use even more at a photo-heavy event like the Olympics.

Also, while Apple doesn't strictly sponsor anything––as someone mentioned, they don't need to––they do provide free Apple products for Hollywood.

It has to do more with Apples being used BY creatives more, and by Apple's products not having the branding plastered all over. Lots if times Apples stuff is used but the logo blocked out cause apple won't pay "promotional" costs. But is easier to de-brand an Apple than say a Dell XPS with the logo carved into the case lid in giant letters. Apple's stuff is so minimal and iconic you can tell the individual model with all the lettering and logos covered from a block away. That's why they fight for "rounded corners" so hard.
 
Talk about #firstworldproblems... Samsung is a sponsor so they get to set the rules. No big deal!

This is an opportunity of a lifetime for the athletes. As long as they knew about this prior to arriving, they really shouldn't care.

And frankly, what I find most astounding is when these athletes are parading in for the opening ceremonies, they are all experiencing it through the screens of their phones. For once, put the devices down, get your head up, and enjoy this once in a lifetime experience. Take it all in with your eyes, not the image on a screen! Make sure to DVR it so when you get home you can replay it instead of wondering what you are going to do with this nonsensical video you took.
 
Wow guys, this is normal practice.

Something similar happened with the first Spiderman movie, where Sony wanted to hide Samsung's logo during the scene that happens in Time Square.

It is a very common practice and I can assure you that any other company would've done the same if they were the main sponsor, including Apple but then again, does Apple ever sponsor anything? Their fault, not Samsung's.

When you make a movie you are employed or under contract to a production corporation. Athletes are not employees of the IOC. Yes, there are rules of conduct, but using a device is not the same as promoting it, no matter how hard they try to spin it.
 
Samsung will shrug off the media storm-ette, but the IOC's brand of noble, amateur, not-for-profit sportsmanship has been dented.

Maybe they'll court less polarizing sponsors in future?
 
This is how it went at the 1992 Olympic Summer Games in Barcelona -

"Twenty years ago, Michael Jordan found himself in the middle of the basketball shoe war between Nike and Reebok at the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona. Jordan was the face of Nike, but Reebok was the Olympic medal stand uniform outfitter. The Dream Team, led by Jordan, rolled through the Games and won the gold medal. Come podium time, Jordan draped an American flag over his right shoulder, covering the Reebok logo, as did fellow Nike endorser Charles Barkley and Converse front man Magic Johnson."
 
When you make a movie you are employed or under contract to a production corporation. Athletes are not employees of the IOC. Yes, there are rules of conduct, but using a device is not the same as promoting it, no matter how hard they try to spin it.

The athletes are voluntarily participating in the games, if they don't want to play by the rules of the IOC they're welcome to stay at home. If IOC determines that giving exposure to a certain branding is against the rules, then that's the rules. No one has said they can't use the devices, only that the branding can't be exposed during the opening ceremony.

Samsung will shrug off the media storm-ette, but the IOC's brand of noble, amateur, not-for-profit sportsmanship has been dented.

Maybe they'll court less polarizing sponsors in future?

Oh please, if banning Pepsi cans because Coca-cola was a sponsor or forbidding local, independent restaurants from serving fries because McDonalds was a sponsor didn't put a dent in their reputation this certainly wont. Btw, the IOC's reputation is pretty dented as it is.
 
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