One Analyst Thinks the iPhone 8 Will Still Have a Lightning Connector With USB-C Adapter for Europe

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The Wall Street Journal today reported that at least one upcoming iPhone model will include a USB-C port instead of a Lightning connector.

    If the report is accurate, a single USB-C cable could be used to charge the so-called iPhone 8, 12-inch MacBook, or the latest MacBook Pro models.
    That's not a rumor we've heard previously, but The Wall Street Journal is a reputable source that often accurately predicts Apple's plans.

    Nevertheless, the move towards USB-C has yet to be substantiated by other credible sources, and Apple changing the charging port on iPhones for the second time in five years, after switching from the 30-pin Dock Connector to Lightning connector in 2012, would certainly be a controversial decision.

    At least one analyst is not convinced that Apple will ditch Lightning on its next iPhones, but he does believe USB-C will be in the mix.

    Barclays managing director Blayne Curtis told MacRumors that he expects the iPhone 8 to keep its Lightning connector, while he believes that Apple will sell a Lightning to USB-C adapter in European countries to adhere to the European Commission's "one mobile phone charger for all" campaign.

    This adapter could be similar to Apple's female-to-male Lightning to Micro-USB adapter, which allows an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with a Lightning connector to charge and sync with a Micro-USB cable. Apple sold a similar 30-pin Dock Connector to Micro-USB adapter in Europe to adhere to EU policy.

    Article Link: One Analyst Thinks the iPhone 8 Will Still Have a Lightning Connector With USB-C Adapter for Europe
  2. reden macrumors 6502a

    Aug 30, 2006
  3. djcerla macrumors 68000


    Apr 23, 2015
    Barclays, AKA the guys who downgraded Apple with $115 target one day before the stock skyrocketed.
  4. zombierunner macrumors 65816


    Jan 18, 2011
  5. mazz0 macrumors 68000


    Mar 23, 2011
    Leeds, UK
  6. Stella macrumors G3


    Apr 21, 2003
  7. ios-dan macrumors newbie

    Feb 28, 2017
    This will never happen. Apple is all about thin. USB is thinner, as far as USB goes, but it's not thinner than lightning.
  8. TxExCxH macrumors regular


    May 16, 2014
  9. kcamfork Suspended

    Oct 7, 2011
    Ugh. Time to buy a whole bunch of other cables. I actually liked lightning once I started using it.

    It should have become the standard connector for USB-C instead of the mess that did. It's just far superior.

    Oh well. My incoming Nintendo Switch has USB-C. My next phone will have USB-C. It just won't be an iPhone.
  10. LukasValine macrumors regular


    Nov 5, 2013
    I would love having usb c on the iphone. You could charge your phone with the same cable you use to charge your laptop. That would be awesome.
  11. NexusUser macrumors member


    Aug 24, 2016
    Pretty sure that those lighting to USB-c connectors break the USB-c power delivery specifications and won't work with most chargers that aren't made by Apple... Here's hoping they show the same "courage" they showed when getting rid of the headphone jack and replace the lighting port with USB-c on all iPhones released this year.
  12. vmistery, Feb 28, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2017

    vmistery macrumors 6502a

    Apr 6, 2010
    It'd make sense to swap to USB c or include a USB c to lightning cable in the box (or at least an adapter). 5 years isn't unreasonable time for a port's lifespan

    Edit: ports not poets!
  13. 840quadra Moderator


    Staff Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Twin Cities Minnesota
    I prefer Lightning hands down, but think Apple should switch to USB-C simply because the Mac line has. Will suck to have to switch cables for my iOS devices, but, it's not like I am going to replace them all in the same day / week.
  14. iHack13 macrumors regular


    Jun 10, 2009
    city of octoberfest
    Does someone know if Apple has to drop the MFI program for USB-C cables. If they choose to go for USB-C.

    It would be an open standard and I doubt Apple can charge 3rd party Manufacturers anymore like they did with the Lightning Port.

    I currently have a Smartphone with USB-C . I like it very much. It's easier to plug in and out and doesnt put so much pressure on the port like the Lightning does and makes easier contact with the socket.
  15. Saipher macrumors demi-god


    Oct 25, 2014
    Why don't we have campaigns like this here in the US? :mad::(

    It would be nice just having 1 cable that does it all. I'm sure someone in here will prove me wrong though. . . .o_O
  16. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Yes, but in the US it will be an optional purchase. Guarantee you the iPhone will cost more in Europe than the US and more than $20 too - it always does even after you add in VAT - so stop your whining.
  17. Mascots, Feb 28, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2017

    Mascots macrumors 68000


    Sep 5, 2009
    There is no way Apple would move from Lightning. They have invested so much into the ecosystem, it hasn't hit the limits as far as technical prowess, and Apple's control of the entire implementation allows them to do many things that would require serious work to implement without Lightning's wrapper on USB's transfer mechanism.

    Did you know that when you plug accessories in, iOS flashes them with the most up-to-date firmware? Or the majority of the handshake between wireless devices (Pencil, Magic accessories) is handled by Lightning? Or even that Lightning's adaptor/connector support is so interoperable that it can survive any foreseeable transition or include any existing connection ever? They've just invested so much from a technical aspect that I see them having a hard time reimplementing much of it with a standard that they don't control.

    Even the development path says no - if Apple transitions iOS devices to USB-C, they'd have to move controller hardware for supported modes back into the iDevice; at the moment the iDevices only need to control USB traffic and everything else is handled on the cord. Neither is Apple going to allow that complexity - which they worked so hard to move out of the core - back in, nor chance having to make a device larger to support a random array of modes (HDMI, DP are good examples and USB-C's mode set has grown every 6 months) and would never welcome back the days of: "this device only supports these series of connections".
  18. aaronhead14 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2009
    Ditching Lightning for USB-C is the smartest move Apple could make. Seriously, it would make everyone's lives so much easier.
  19. vertical smile macrumors 68040

    vertical smile

    Sep 23, 2014
    How would a USB-C iPhone work with existing devices that are USB-A? Such as a CarPlay infotainment system?

    Will it be backward compatible?

    It would be weird if they made a switch to USB-C. Would this mean that all the other iPhones, such as an SE would also go USB-C?
  20. GrumpyMom macrumors 604


    Sep 11, 2014
    Goodness. More dongles. So many uh...interesting... rumors today in response to the EU mandate.
  21. itsmilo macrumors 68020


    Sep 15, 2016
    Its optional here too. They just have to offer it. Kind of loophole-ish
  22. a.gomez macrumors 6502a


    Oct 10, 2008
    Another proprietary apple port that should just go in the trash of history. It is a garbage port, just put a USB-C port and call it a day.
  23. mizzyman21 macrumors newbie


    Dec 8, 2015
  24. hwilson39 macrumors newbie

    Dec 20, 2008
    The WSJ article could be interpreted as "comes with Lighting to USB-C cord instead of Lighting to USB-A". The wording is vague.
  25. mizzyman21 macrumors newbie


    Dec 8, 2015
    I wonder if there is a way to make one port that can accept both USB-C and Lightening. I understand there is a wafer in the middle of a USB-C Female port. However, I wonder if it can be designed flexible like those old patents we saw for Apple trying to make USB-A multi-directional. Then when that wafer moves out of the way for the lightning connector it'll press it against the lightning pins on one side of the housing. Then we can have our cake and eat it too! (Patent Pending?)

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