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One Analyst Thinks the iPhone 8 Will Still Have a Lightning Connector With USB-C Adapter for Europe
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Haha. I see what you did there. Clever. But, I agree with you. The USB-C rumors at the moment, don't seem feasible. Although, eventually it will happen.
Looking forward to buying a USB C to Lighting to SCART to garden hose to HDMI back to Lighting adapter so I can use my Lighting to headphone jack adaptor to use my headphones.
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I'm not sure why this is a major takeaway from the story. A 5 watt iPhone charger isn't going to be used to charge a MacBook or MacBook Pro that wants 29-60 watts. Further, it seems unlikely that an iPhone or iPad is going to include a charging cable that supports the high-power charging protocol, since they're bulkier, heavier, and more expensive. A cable that comes with a MB or MBP would certainly be useful for charging an iPhone, but an iPhone/iPad cable will not be useful for charging a MBP.
That's part of the problem with the whole USB-C thing - it's not quite the one-size-fits-all world that people want it to be.
Since I get a cable and charger with every device I buy, I can charge them all at the same time, regardless of what connectors they have. The only time using the same cable for charging two devices will matter to me is when one of the cables I own fails - I can make do until I get a replacement.
Meantime, why should I care if I can use the cable interchangeably with a MB or MBP that I don't (and am not likely) to own? My Macs have USB-A, all my existing chargers and my car have USB-A... Yeah, my next iMac will likely have USB-C, but that's some years off. So what matters to me isn't the connector on the iPhone, it'll be the connector at the other end of the cable.
Unlike some, I don't think dongles/adapter cables are a major crime - I've been through tech transitions far too many times. It just is what it is, I'll buy what I need. So in the end, I won't really care whether my next iPhone has Lightning or USB-C, so long as it works. Interchangeability of cables is a bonus, if it's possible.
You can watch full 1080p video from an iPhone 5 through the newer adapter, but you even acknowledge the most USB can transfer is 480mbps. Unlike USB-C, there are no special lanes on Lightning for such video, either - so how is that possible?
I already said: The bandwidth problem is being fixed by converting the video to AirPlay Codec on the iDevice (which every device supports), then it is possible to transfer 1080p video at USB2 speeds. Next, the cord converts the video into for the proper protocol, which uncompresses it, and is responsible with piping that uncompressed HDMI footage to a connected cable which has higher bandwidth than Apple's USB 2 Lightning implementation.
The cord handles all conversions. The iDevice doesn't have anything to do with HDMI footage, conversion, storage - anything. If the iDevice did the work of the cord, like you said it does, then it would be impossible to output 1080p because it would bottleneck at Lightning's USB 2 data transfer implementation.
All you need to do is plug something into Lightning while watching Console to verify these things are happening.
*Sigh* You realise this is possible with USB as long as software support is present, yes?
Obviously not every device will have the software support required, but there is no physical or electrical connector limitation in play.
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I never said it wasn't. I said Apple would have to implement this again outside of a protocol they control, then you hopped in and said I was incorrect about how Lightning actually works. All of that was to prove you wrong.
Even so, if Apple sticks with the current method of moving those bits out of iDevices and implements USB-C, that means you'd be bound to certain USB-C cables and Accessories in order to connect correctly to an iDevice. If an iPad doesn't support USB-C HDMI mode and Apple instead relies on some sort of adaptor instead of purely a USB-C -> HDMI cable, I guarantee the confusion and general uproar would be much worse than sticking with Lightning.
USB-C isn't some kind of magical unifier of all good, it's actually a very complex and dynamic standard that means a lot of different things to the devices that it is implemented in.
It is hard to come with anything more ridiculous than the garbage that comes out of the E.U. I applaud Apple in ignoring their blather, and instead contributing what is essentially a worse user experience, which is exactly what the arrogant, ignorant, and uninformed E.U. body thought they would be improving with their ludicrous mandate.
Yes, because we clearly want to go back to the Y2K era of connectors. That was so fantastic.
I know. I'm referring to the headline for this article.
Actually there would still be more dongle use as people transition. For instance anyone who invested in lightning headphones. Which thankfully, I did not, because I figured Apple could move away from lightning without warning.
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I must have 6 different styles of USB cable plus firewire...Plus Lightening....and now Apple decides we need USB C and soon the Chinese will demand a 7th style (male end) of USB...When will this madness end? This is just nuts.
That proprietary port, which did everything micro-USB could not, is the reason USB type C even exists...that, and Apple helping to design USB type C.
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Oh, it's going to happen...what you just described is why someone has a job.
The E.U. is in no position to even comment let alone dictate the type of chargers used by smartphones, developed by private technology companies.
Don't sweat it, the original story was a false rumor. This article is pointing to the use of adapters.
Apple invested a lot of time and sweat (and in the process, pissed off some costumers) in making the headset connectors Lightening rather than 1/8in plugs. Going to USB-C would admit failure in that strategy. Apple does not usually back away from any global connector decisions they make quickly. It took many cycles for Thunderbolt to wane, many more for Firewire to stroll off into the sunset...
I don't get why they would change. The port is primarily used for charging. Some folks will use it for wired headphones. Lightning does charging better than USB-C because (A) there are more lightning cables out there and (B) Lightning is a more sturdy port. Lightning does wired headphones fine. Only a small fraction of people will occasionally do data transfer (which is what USB-C is good for) on an iOS device. And the amount of times that transfer is large enough and time pressured enough that speed is an issue will be another small fraction of those few transfers.
I'd rather have a good sturdy charging port on my iPhone. Now if wireless charging is included, then maybe I don't really care what the port is. Heck, if there is wireless charging then I likely will rarely use the port at all since I use AirPods for my headsets most of the time now (and have other bluetooth headsets already as well).
I'd rather have a good sturdy charging port on my iPhone. Now if wireless charging is included, then maybe I don't really care what the port is. Heck, if there is wireless charging then I likely will rarely use the port at all since I use AirPods for my headsets most of the time now (and have other bluetooth headsets already as well).
They are within EU borders. Companies are perfectly free to ignore them outside the EU.
Could these guys that always know people familiar with the plans of Apple perhaps disclose some news about the iMac
That's cool, I didn't know a lot of that! Respectfully, I don't give a ****-and Apple users should give a **** about how much work Apple engineers have to do. Apple will have to do the work necessary to move to a standard (and open) USB-C connector to match the direction that MacBooks have already established. USB-C is inevitable, I believe that delaying the switch to USB-C will just cause more pain as they add 200 million iPhones, plus, iPads, Pencils, and Apple TV Remotes (they charge with Lightening cables), over the next year.
Apple should rip off the bandaid now, and fast. Move to USB-C to avoid a fragmented ecosystem of connectors between Mac and iOS devices. Create a lightening cable trade in for USB-C cables as their olive branch, and to ease the transition.
I am not sure where you are living, but all governments worldwide 'require' (aka dictate) a lot of product features in all kind of categories. The most visible ones might related to security from cars over electrical devices to food or the environment (eg, catalytic converter). Less of a product feature are disclosure requirements or things like workplace regulations, minimum wage. The reasons vary widely and the list of 'requirements' is endless.