One Analyst Thinks the iPhone 8 Will Still Have a Lightning Connector With USB-C Adapter for Europe

[iop]

I find the mechanical aspect of lightning superior to USB-C. The latter is not as reliable.

 

[temna]

I don't think an adapter satisfies the EU requirement.

It has been since the iPhone 4, when the requirement first came into play.

 

[dan110]

Consumers: Oh no, I have to upgrade to another standard?

Apple: Don't worry guys, we've got you covered. It's all about that "Dongle Life"!

 

[temna]

Consumers: Oh no, I have to upgrade to another standard?

Apple: Don't worry guys, we've got you covered. It's all about that "Dongle Life"!

Enough about the stupid dongles. People don't use them on a day to day basis. And the people who DO, know enough to use a docking station on their desk, or pick up the appropriate cables that don't require dongles. Every time there is a shift in cables, there is the need for adapters.. AT keyboard to PS/2 keyboard to USB keyboard.. Serial mouse to USB mouse.. Thunderbolt to VGA/DVI/HDI/etc.. It's time to grow up and not blame Apple because people decided Thunderbolt 3 would use USB C as the standard connector and that Thunderbolt could do SO much.. It can do EVERYTHING from power, to data to video to audio to .... Be happy, it simplifies everything to one connector.. And that is the way PC builders will be going, Apple is just the first to the starting line.. Just like everything else (floppies, cds, etc)..
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Apple should use ONLY standards like USB and Thunderbolt.

Oh? So everyone else should be held to your standards too? Should Lenovo, HP and Dell drop their proprietary doc connectors in favor of Thunderbolt? Should everyone drop USB A, VGA, DVI, DisplayPort, HDMI, etc. because you think you know best what manufacturers should or shouldn't use?

"Apple Inc.'s iMac was the first mainstream product with USB and the iMac's success popularized USB itself."
"Thunderbolt was commercially introduced on Apple's 2011 MacBook Pro, using the same Apple-developed connector as Mini DisplayPort, which is electrically identical to DisplayPort, but uses a smaller, non-locking connector."

Apple is often the first to start the move to new tech that other companies follow. History has shown this over and over. First home computer with a mouse. First with USB. First with Firewire (Apple standard, but..). First with Thunderbolt. Let Apple do what it's doing and let history keep score on the outcome.

 

[AZ63]

Companies aren't very good at regulating themselves.. if it costs money they'll ignore the issues, or not implement proper solutions.





Middle Earth was fiction.

You are correct comrade.

 

[DCIFRTHS]

I find the mechanical aspect of lightning superior to USB-C. The latter is not as reliable.

Would you elaborate?

 

[recoil80]

Didn't they say that Lightning was going to be their connection for the next ten years when they introduced it?

They did, and it was only 5 years ago.
In a few years they'll remove the cable and use something else like inductive charging. It works pretty good on Apple Watch

 

[MacBH928]

People keep saying this, and I'm confused. You folks do realize that TB 3 is on the new MBPs, right? It just happens to share a form factor with USB type C, like TB 1 and 2 shared a form factor with mini displayport. Right? We understand that Apple hasn't abandoned thunderbolt like, at all?

If you have thunderbolt 1 or 2 wire, you try to stick it in new MBP '16 , it doesn't go in. You need to buy adapter.

If you you have USB-A like the puck mouse on the original iMac form 1998, you still can stick it in and use it on all USB-A (Even 3.) ports.

 

[GeneralChang]

If you have thunderbolt 1 or 2 wire, you try to stick it in new MBP '16 , it doesn't go in. You need to buy adapter.

If you you have USB-A like the puck mouse on the original iMac form 1998, you still can stick it in and use it on all USB-A (Even 3.) ports.

Um... yeah. That's true. It's also unrelated to my point, which is that Apple has not in any way "abandoned" thunderbolt just because someone else decided to change the form factor of the port.

 

[swrobel]

Seriously? I don't know too many blogs that actually post the source of the information, since the information can come from multiple sources.. You may think Wall Street Journal, but they could have just as easily got it from some buddy's Wordpress blog..

That's even worse if they're just sourcing random Wordpress blogs...

Also, here's a great example form Engadget for how to cite multiple sources. It's not rocket science.

 

[temna]

That's even worse if they're just sourcing random Wordpress blogs...

Also, here's a great example form Engadget for how to cite multiple sources. It's not rocket science.

Not rocket science, but not necessary either. If this is the reason someone stops reading a board, then they have bigger issues mentally than picking which boards they want to read. They really need to lighten the h*** up.

 

[tjuagut]

EU says it must be USB-C to USB-C. But national lays have to implement the directive. That is before july 2020. The most country's can do that this year. The first year that it is a mandate is 2019 in some country's. The last is 2021. Apple can not sell after that date a USB-C to lightning dongle. It must be in the box if they use lightning. The reason is that you buy 1 loader and 1 cable for a phone, tablet, pc/mac etc and it is not in the box anymore.

Edit:
There is 1 non EU country (Swiss) but who use the EU rules were USB-C is a mandate in 2018.

 

[temna]

EU says it must be USB-C to USB-C. But national lays have to implement the directive. That is before july 2020. The most country's can do that this year. The first year that it is a mandate is 2019 in some country's. The last is 2021. Apple can not sell after that date a USB-C to lightning dongle. It must be in the box if they use lightning. The reason is that you buy 1 loader and 1 cable for a phone, tablet, pc/mac etc and it is not in the box anymore.

Edit:
There is 1 non EU country (Swiss) but who use the EU rules were USB-C is a mandate in 2018.

Considering in the EU they include the adapter, I don't see the issue with them keeping lightning.. They can still sell the dongle all they want, as long as they include one in the box..