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they'd have to move controller hardware for supported modes back into the iDevice; at the moment the iDevices only need to control USB traffic and everything else is handled on the cord
They already have to do that; the onboard microchips only handle bit transfer and ECC - not the underlying protocol. If the cables had to handle the protocol, you'd need new cables to support any new protocols. Try to think a little.

How would a USB-C iPhone work with existing devices that are USB-A?
USB-C <-> USB-A cable, instead of a Lightning <-> USB-A cable.
Thats literally all you need to change.
 
They already have to do that; the onboard microchips only handle bit transfer and ECC - not the underlying protocol. If the cables had to handle the protocol, you'd need new cables to support any new protocols. Try to think a little.

You are wrong, do a little research instead of assuming. You do need new cables to support new protocols but not new iDevices.
That's how Apple produced a new version of the HDMI adaptor for 1080p that was backwards compatible with every lightning device in existence, even those that existed only when the 720p cable was available.

By Apple engineers' words and verifiable with the reporting in Console, the conversions are handled on the cord.
 
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You are wrong, do a little research instead of assuming. You do need new cables to support new protocols.
That's how Apple produced a new version of the HDMI adaptor for 1080p that was backwards compatible with every lightning device in existence, even those that existed only when the 720p cable was available.
You're confusing protocol with bandwidth. Older lightning cables did not have the ability to transfer at the rates necessary to support decent 1080p.
 
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You're confusing protocol with bandwidth. Older lightning cables did not have the ability to transfer at the rates necessary to support decent 1080p.

Then why is the 1080p adaptor backwards compatible with the iPhone 5 at full resolution?

It's because Apple compresses 1080p video into Airplay codec, transfers it through Lightning to the Adaptor (which can be done over USB2 when compressed), then the adaptor decompresses the video and sends the uncompressed video via HDMI, which supports the higher bandwidth.
You can literally see this happening in Console when you stream video through one of those adaptors.
 
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USB-C <-> USB-A cable, instead of a Lightning <-> USB-A cable.
Thats literally all you need to change.

Well, if it is compatible with old devices, then I don't see too much of a downside for the consumers, except the initial problems with adapters and replacing old cables.

Using adapters is a pain, but that seems to be the way Apple is going with everything.
 
what apple need to do is move the new ipads's to USB type-C. Makes no sense to have it just for the iphone 8 and macbook.
 
It's because Apple compresses 1080p video into Airplay codec, transfers it through Lightning to the Adaptor (which can be done over USB2 when compressed), then the adaptor decompresses the video and sends the uncompressed video via HDMI, which supports the higher bandwidth.
With a lossy input, you get a lossy output. What the HDMI adapter can output is irrelevant when its input is not up to par.

To get back to the subject - you can do this exact same thing with USB, theres nothing special with lightning going on here hardware wise - its just software support for an external device (that in this case takes a compressed video stream and outputs it to HDMI).
 
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The WSJ article could be interpreted as "comes with Lighting to USB-C cord instead of Lighting to USB-A". The wording is vague.

This!

Or the WSJ was told "it's going to have a USB-C cable now" and the WSJ thought that meant dumping Lightning, when what it actually meant was a USB-C Lightning cable, like I'm using to charge my iPhone SE right now.
 
Barclays managing director Blayne Curtis told MacRumors that he expects the iPhone 8 to keep its Lightning connector, while he believes that Apple will sell a Lightning to USB-C adapter in European countries to adhere to the European Commission's "one mobile phone charger for all" campaign.

The "one mobile charger for all" is about micro-USB and not USB-C.

When they started, the mini-USB was the most common, and since then two USB-version has been released.

The campaign makes no sense as long as the tech industry keeps moving forward.
 
Woo hoo, more dongles!

Glad I switched to Android. None of this proprietary nonsense.
I obviously can't speak for everyone's use case, but the only dongles I ever use with my Apple products are display adapters for mini displayport-to-whatever, and I've had that issue with almost every Windows laptop I've used as well.
 
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Didn't they say that Lightning was going to be their connection for the next ten years when they introduced it?

I'm sure they will go to a beefed up charger with 2.4A and usb-c connection instead of moving to usb-c on the phone.
 
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