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Why don't we have campaigns like this here in the US? :mad::(

It would be nice just having 1 cable that does it all. I'm sure someone in here will prove me wrong though. . . .o_O
Historically, the American experiment was to have as little as possible mandated by the government. It was/is thought that industry was best left to figure out what they thought was best and have the market place decide what is best for how people live their life. Of course there are safety standards etc. so that there is a flow to society but we Mac/iPhone users wouldn't be happy if majority ruled and we lived by how Android decided the connectivity standards along with MS running on all PCs. The best usually wins in the long run but government mandates slow the progress toward that end. While at times it can be inconvenient, I perfer our traditional role of less government mandates.
Additionally, be careful of what you wish for… one ring to rule them all wasn't so good for Middle Earth.
 
I don't get why they would change. The port is primarily used for charging. Some folks will use it for wired headphones. Lightning does charging better than USB-C because (A) there are more lightning cables out there and (B) Lightning is a more sturdy port. Lightning does wired headphones fine. Only a small fraction of people will occasionally do data transfer (which is what USB-C is good for) on an iOS device. And the amount of times that transfer is large enough and time pressured enough that speed is an issue will be another small fraction of those few transfers.

I'd rather have a good sturdy charging port on my iPhone. Now if wireless charging is included, then maybe I don't really care what the port is. Heck, if there is wireless charging then I likely will rarely use the port at all since I use AirPods for my headsets most of the time now (and have other bluetooth headsets already as well).
USB C had quick-charge standards built in, which would be lovely.
 
Lightning was implemented in iOS devices roughly 2 years before USB-C was even finalized.

I guess Apple couldn't wait any longer and knew Lightning would probably have a shorter life than the 30-pin. Personally, I think a full change to USB-C should be implemented and given Apple's move with the MBP line, I think that scenario is coming.
 
I'm not usually over critical of Apple, but the lightning connector is terrible. It needs to go. It doesn't hold a good connection.
 
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Ditching Lightning for USB-C is the smartest move Apple could make. Seriously, it would make everyone's lives so much easier.

Well according to the top comment on a post earlier today, lighting is much better as it's "not as bulky"... Yep, some Apple fans would prefer a proprietary connector that doesn't give them any benefit over the universal standard.
 
It sounds likely to me that both reports are somewhat right. I could easily imagine Apple shipping a USB-C to Lightning cord, where instead of USB-A on the power source side, it's USB-C. A user could then plug directly in to the new MacBooks or any number of Windows PCs that support USB-C, and the little power block terminates with USB-C now. That I think would be the smart move, to drive more people away from USB-A.
 
Since I get a cable and charger with every device I buy, I can charge them all at the same time, regardless of what connectors they have. The only time using the same cable for charging two devices will matter to me is when one of the cables I own fails - I can make do until I get a replacement.
When I travel (light), I only bring one set of charger+cable for both my iPhone and iPad with me. For charging other devices (see below) I just add another cable or two. If I travel with my MBP, I need to add the MBP charger (including cable). But if that charger could also charge my iPhone or iPad and other devices, I get more flexibility for charging (currently the MBP itself serves as the charger for other devices).
Meantime, why should I care if I can use the cable interchangeably with a MB or MBP that I don't (and am not likely) to own? My Macs have USB-A, all my existing chargers and my car have USB-A... Yeah, my next iMac will likely have USB-C, but that's some years off. So what matters to me isn't the connector on the iPhone, it'll be the connector at the other end of the cable.
I might have made more sense to include a USB-C to Lightning cable with new Macs that only have USB-C ports than to include a USB-C to Lightning cable with iPhones. Most non-Macs with USB-C ports still have USB-A ports and thus the iPhone can get by with 'only' having a USB-A to Lightning cable, while most Mac users probably have iPhones.
Interchangeability of cables is a bonus, if it's possible.
I have an iPhone and an iPad that each need Lightning. But I also have non-Apple Bluetooth headphones, a wireless hotspot and a camera that need USB micro. I have multiple external HDDs that need USB mini. I have other external HDDs and another camera that need USB3 micro. I have a yet another camera that needs a proprietary USB plug.

Interchangeability goes far beyond switching between Mac and iPhone.
 
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Pretty sure that those lighting to USB-c connectors break the USB-c power delivery specifications and won't work with most chargers that aren't made by Apple... Here's hoping they show the same "courage" they showed when getting rid of the headphone jack and replace the lighting port with USB-c on all iPhones released this year.
I doubt it'll happen. The thinness and precision of the iPhone oppose USB-C.
 
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I'm so amused by the people who think any iPhone/iPad would get USB C. The adapter is the way they will go, just like the 30pin to microusb and the Lightning to microusb adapters. Anyone who honestly thinks Apple would change that this early into Lightning really needs to stop listening to these "analysts".
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I wonder if there is a way to make one port that can accept both USB-C and Lightening. I understand there is a wafer in the middle of a USB-C Female port. However, I wonder if it can be designed flexible like those old patents we saw for Apple trying to make USB-A multi-directional. Then when that wafer moves out of the way for the lightning connector it'll press it against the lightning pins on one side of the housing. Then we can have our cake and eat it too! (Patent Pending?)

Sure you can, but that would make the plug bigger/thicker than it needs to be. Apple is about thin, and Lightning can be made much thinner than USB C.
 
I don't see the mentioned article on the WSJ ( I have a subscription and access to all ). Would MR please post a link to cite the source?

Thank you!

Definitely going to stop reading if you guys keep ripping off news like this without linking to the source
 
Well..if they do ditch Lightening on next iPhone, then i expect it will be ditched on Mac's as well given time... Thunderbolt could archive speed, but what can't u do with a dongle vs a port only ?
 
Historically, the American experiment was to have as little as possible mandated by the government. It was/is thought that industry was best left to figure out what they thought was best and have the market place decide what is best for how people live their life. Of course there are safety standards etc. so that there is a flow to society but we Mac/iPhone users wouldn't be happy if majority ruled and we lived by how Android decided the connectivity standards along with MS running on all PCs. The best usually wins in the long run but government mandates slow the progress toward that end. While at times it can be inconvenient, I perfer our traditional role of less government mandates.
Additionally, be careful of what you wish for… one ring to rule them all wasn't so good for Middle Earth.


I prefer more government intervention, as businesses never have the environment or helping their customers best interests as a priority
 
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My guess is able releases USB-C to lightning cables with new devices. Everyone will have to buy new Apple Certified USB power bricks or USB-A to USB-C adapters.
 
That proprietary port, which did everything micro-USB could not, is the reason USB type C even exists...that, and Apple helping to design USB type C.
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Oh, it's going to happen...what you just described is why someone has a job.

No idea what exactly it did in the mobile space that micro usb did not... And yes they helped - just like Intel, Ti, HP - and the rest of the working group. Apple Is like SONY of the 90's with random proprietary nonsense.
 
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Is it possible there's confusion about what END of the cable was part of the rumor? Apple is definitely going to make the shift to USB-C across their whole line of macs at some point so it makes sense for them to start putting Lightning to USB-C cables in all of their iPhone boxes, to replace the old USB2 plug. But I can't see them ditching Lightning at this point with all of the peripherals being released for it -- including the new Beats wireless headphones.
 
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My AirPods (which charge by Lightning and are top sellers for Apple) also agree with the prediction that iPhone 8 will be charged by Lightning cable. Though I think that cable will plug into a USB-C charging plug.
 
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