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exactly. They are FAST ENOUGH TO DO WHAT CONSUMERS WANT. So stop your bitching about quad cores. It could be a friggen single core. If it can run fast enough I am happy. So is everyone else besides a select few.

that's all well and good if the price reflected it..which it doesn't...

besides..who doesn't want more power..if anything it futureproofs the computer
 
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Look at it this way, if one understands Apples technologies in SL a quad core CPU should be considered mandatory in an iMac. At least at the high endit should be, as Apple also needs broader choices. That quad core also needs to be a recent generation CPU. For some software GCD will never see the performance gains possible without the hardware threads available.

Dave
Speaking of Apple's technologies in Snow Leopard it seems you are forgetting about another huge one. OpenCL. Once OpenCL comes into it's own you will be better off putting multiple graphics cards in your computer than cores. GCD is minor as far as i'm concerned when comparing to the potential of OpenCL. So instead of complaining about the lack of cores in a machine people will start to realize that processors should've and could've plateaued at core 2 duo while increasing the number of graphics cards instead.
 
Why not make the Macbook and macbook air one and the same? Price. However, if Apple is OK dropping the price of the Macbook Air to $1000 (the CD drive would be an extra $100, effectively making it more expensive then a current Macbook, that's a very apple way to increase the average machine price), then I could see that happening.

The Macbook and the Macbook air would become the consumer laptop, without any ports, just wireless... meanwhile the Pro models would definitely be considered pro, especially compared to the Macbook!

I can see this happening, the air always seemed like the odd man out in the Apple lineup.

The Macbook Air is far more expensive to manufacture than a Macbook. That's why most competitors with the same specs and thinness are priced more than the Air.
 
and you know what consumers what??? Just because its good enough for you does that mean us "select few" have to put up with what you want????

No it means you get a mac pro and shut up about how a consumer end machine doesn't suit your hardcore editing, programming and designing needs.
 
Hasn't anyone considered that these adsense ads are just for the current models ? I mean come on..They can still be seen if you use google.Do people really think Apple would allow this ?
 
There are quite a lot of people that are happy with their iMac and how it preforms. But what is frustrating is that because is good enough for them they seem to bash anyone that would like a little more. What wrong with wanting something to be a little better. What wrong with wanting a quad core iMac?? Is that so wrong?

As there are not many configurations for the iMac people can only buy wants on offer. What not to say they are wishing for a few more options when they buy that iMac

Anyone that buys Apple knows that they pay a premium for that product. They want an Apple product over a Windows PC product.

I am ready to buy an iMac and am waiting to see what this refresh is going to offer.. I am ready to get the 3.06GHz version with the ATI GFX card in. I like my games too so want something that will play them well. I know that I could do better on a PC but dont want to have a PC so what wrong with me wanting a iMac that has the options for some higher end kit but still have the all in 1 solution

Yes. I respect that. Wanting more. We always want more. What is pissing me off is the people are saying that if there is no quad core I am going to windows. Which is complete bull because no one has the balls to switch to such a bad system like windows after using a mac.
 
Yes. I respect that. Wanting more. We always want more. What is pissing me off is the people are saying that if there is no quad core I am going to windows. Which is complete bull because no one has the balls to switch to such a bad system like windows after using a mac.
Seriously. I can't even stand that POS for the couple of minutes i'm forced to before I start up a quick game fix in Steam.
 
There are numerous errors in this post!!!!

Disappointed because it doesn't have two more cores that the average consumer are probably hardly/never gonna use?
This is your first mistake and it is a major one. Consummers don't make use of those cores the operating system does. More importantly Snow Leopard makes us of those cores in a very unique way that benefits the user and his experience with the machine.
I actually laughed at this post.
You may want to reconsider that as you don't know what you are talking about.
A 2.66 Quad is worse than 3.06 Duo as far as my needs are concerned.
This isn't always true. It depends upon the processor and the application. The new quad i5 for example can be anywhere from slightly faster to very fast relative to a Core 2 series even when running at a lower clock rate.
I couldn't be any happier with my current iMac as my main machine.

Hey I'm happy with my MBP as a portable. It is a little long in the tooth but was a good bargain in it's day. What many of us are saying is that the iMac is a terrible bargain if it is only available in Core 2 technology. That is simply do to it being outdated and grossly out classed by the latest Intel tech.

In any event it is a sign of an amature to compare one series processor with another based on clock rate. The latest i5 and i7's have a vastly improved core over the older Core 2 series. You can only see this difference running the same code on each. I think in manybcases you will be pleasantly surprised and in others shocked at the performance of these processors. Besides that they can automatically crank up the clock and run legacy code even faster. To dismiss Intels latest is to admit not knowing a thing about them.


Dave
 
Apple has been selling the iMac for a decade. With every form-factor refresh, the model has become slimmer. A bulky G3 CRT made way for the G4 "LCD lamp" which made way for the G5/Intel "LCD PC on a stand".

I know people point out that the PC has followed the same form-factor advancement as long or longer then the iMac and it's bombed in the marketplace every time.

So maybe it's just better marketing that has made the iMac successful. During the G3 and G4 days you could get a "cheap" tower therefore the iMac was not the only "affordable" option for Mac consumers and therefore enjoyed sales success by default.

So making it even thinner seems to make good sense based on past performance.
 
Yes. I respect that. Wanting more. We always want more. What is pissing me off is the people are saying that if there is no quad core I am going to windows. Which is complete bull because no one has the balls to switch to such a bad system like windows after using a mac.

agreed. People wont switch just because apple have not included a quad core.. You dont buy a mac for the hell of it because we all know you can get a windows PC/Laptop which is better spec for less
 
No it means you get a mac pro and shut up about how a consumer end machine doesn't suit your hardcore editing, programming and designing needs.

Or he pays half the price for the same pro hardware on an HP desktop. Just sayin'..

You sound pretty angry for a Buddhist. :eek:
 
No it means you get a mac pro and shut up about how a consumer end machine doesn't suit your hardcore editing, programming and designing needs.

I see. So we should pay 2500 dollars for a mac pro that can be whooped by a 1000 dollar PC? Yeah, I'd feel great about that!
 
This is your first mistake and it is a major one. Consummers don't make use of those cores the operating system does. More importantly Snow Leopard makes us of those cores in a very unique way that benefits the user and his experience with the machine.
I never said it didn't. I am looking at my CPU usage CONSTANTLY. VERY rarely do I ever see it being used to the max by the OS under normal circumstances, and by normal circumstances I mean Adobe's terrible flash player.

You may want to reconsider that as you don't know what you are talking about.
You might want to reconsider considering that I don't know what i'm talking about.

This isn't always true. It depends upon the processor and the application. The new quad i5 for example can be anywhere from slightly faster to very fast relative to a Core 2 series even when running at a lower clock rate.
Well obviously it isn't ALWAYS true. But for the majority of things, it is.

Hey I'm happy with my MBP as a portable. It is a little long in the tooth but was a good bargain in it's day. What many of us are saying is that the iMac is a terrible bargain if it is only available in Core 2 technology. That is simply do to it being outdated and grossly out classed by the latest Intel tech.
Read my post about OpenCL ;)


In any event it is a sign of an amature to compare one series processor with another based on clock rate. The latest i5 and i7's have a vastly improved core over the older Core 2 series. You can only see this difference running the same code on each. I think in manybcases you will be pleasantly surprised and in others shocked at the performance of these processors. Besides that they can automatically crank up the clock and run legacy code even faster. To dismiss Intels latest is to admit not knowing a thing about them.
I wasn't basing them on clock rate. Far from it. I know plenty about them and i'm not too excited. All I care about is the power i'm getting from OpenCL and if you don't like it, then too bad.
 
Also, why don't Apple put in a 9600M GT along with the 9400M that is currently in these Mac Minis??
Because people wouldn't be so stupid anymore to buy an imac or a higher prized macbook!!! that's why! The mac mini could be updated to a great tiny powerfull machine, that's a fact and they know it but all what's in their minds is $$$!
 
Yes. I respect that. Wanting more. We always want more. What is pissing me off is the people are saying that if there is no quad core I am going to windows. Which is complete bull because no one has the balls to switch to such a bad system like windows after using a mac.

Have you ever used Windows 7? it is better than Snow Leopard in many ways. Software choice, speed (go figure), file management, software choice, video editing capabilities in general, games selection for those who care, much much better hardware choices, and hmm...oh yeah software choice.
 
agreed. People wont switch just because apple have not included a quad core.. You dont buy a mac for the hell of it because we all know you can get a windows PC/Laptop which is better spec for less

So true. Macs and PC's are entirely different beasts. You can build a windows machine with the exact same hardware specs as a iMac for erm.. lets say 700 bucks. But, it wont perform NEARLY AS WELL. The iMac would smoke it in probably all categories. It is how OSX uses the hardware that makes macs so good.
 
So true. Macs and PC's are entirely different beasts. You can build a windows machine with the exact same hardware specs as a iMac for erm.. lets say 700 bucks. But, it wont perform NEARLY AS WELL. The iMac would smoke it in probably all categories. It is how OSX uses the hardware that makes macs so good.

You have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about man. Install Windows 7 on your mac and see which OS runs faster and oh-so-famously "feels snappier."

Windows 7 may very well light things up for the PC. It's a very good and very efficient OS, and makes Snow Leopard feel slow. I do not like this of course, but it is true.

Way WAY too many people bash windows out of some religious like fervor for Macs, without actually having much experience or knowledge on what they are talking about. People need to basically stop lying about this kinda stuff.
 
Have you ever used Windows 7? it is better than Snow Leopard in many ways. Software choice, speed (go figure), file management, software choice, video editing capabilities in general, games selection for those who care, much much better hardware choices, and hmm...oh yeah software choice.

Yes I have. I have it dual booted on my HP laptop with vista right now. Never use 7. I have all my data on 7 and I could just as easy use it, but I don't. You know why.... ITS GARBAGE.
 
Then go and get a PC. Enjoy trying to accomplish anything on Windows. But if you were a PC you wouldn't be on Mac Forums... now would ya.

Another attack based on emotion and not fact.

You can still work very efficiently in windows. What do YOU accompish on OSX that you couldn't on W7? Name one single thing that isn't platform specific.

I'll name one the other way. Efficient AVCHD editing. It's awesome on windows. It absolutely blows on OSX.

The only reason I am so outspoken and annoyed on this topic is because Apple is completely dropping the ball when they could be running circles around the competition. They are getting straight up beat though, in just about every way.
 
You have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about man. Install Windows 7 on your mac and see which OS runs faster and oh-so-famously "feels snappier."

Windows 7 may very well light things up for the PC. It's a very good and very efficient OS, and makes Snow Leopard feel slow. I do not like this of course, but it is true.

Way WAY too many people bash windows out of some religious like fervor for Macs, without actually having much experience or knowledge on what they are talking about. People need to basically stop lying about this kinda stuff.

If only you understood. Windows takes way more hardware to run efficiently than a mac. Which is what I am saying. And as my previous 18 posts I stated. I have windows 7 on my laptop, and I hate it.
 
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