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i hope you know LGA775 65Watts Desktop CPU available now,and and i am using mac long enough
Core i5/i3 with special watts still possible, 32nm still power and heat can be reduced ...
They better put a quad in or else
tell me. What do you do that you absolutely need a Quad core. If you do programming and HD editing and what not, get a friggen Mac Pro and write it off as a business expense. If not, stop complaining.
As usual everyone is going to be disappointed by a built up update to several lines. Like the update/price hike of the Mac Pro. The iMac and Mac Mini will rarely compete in the cpu department for the same money as they use mobile platforms on (effectively) desktop machines.
So the idea that apple will 'fail' by not including an i5 or i7 is ridiculous, people will keep buying these machines. They are still what the majority of the consumers want - something trendy or practical for a hobby or line of work. The average consumer doesn't care enough about quad-core for it to seriously impact the sales of these computers. Even if they do introduce a quad-core platform, it will be a mobile one and will suffer very low clock speeds and disappoint the same groups of people.
Keep your expectations low - avoid the disappointment!
Just my two pence.
So the idea that apple will 'fail' by not including an i5 or i7 is ridiculous, people will keep buying these machines. They are still what the majority of the consumers want - something trendy or practical for a hobby or line of work. The average consumer doesn't care enough about quad-core for it to seriously impact the sales of these computers. Even if they do introduce a quad-core platform, it will be a mobile one and will suffer very low clock speeds and disappoint the same groups of people.
Keep your expectations low - avoid the disappointment!
Just my two pence.
As others have mentioned many could care less if its thinner, they want the internal components to catch up to the year 2009 or at the very least 2008.
MBA merging with MB in the near future?
As currently on top of the rumor side link there is the rumor fed by Google ads in the Netherlands for new Macs, among them:
MacBook: Thinner, lighter and faster! Free delivery. Order today.
Could this be a possible merger of the MBA and the MB line? As we know many don't consider the current MBA a "real" revision. So a thinner and lighter MB - could that also mean a faster MBA-equivalent? Would give the slowly dying MB and the MBA a new boost. MB gets "sexier" (thinner) and the MBA gets faster, hopefully more RAM and larger SSD but maybe a tat thicker?
DEAR MODERATOR: I started this thread since in the other one nobody didn't even mention this possibility, there its all about "Why thinner iMacs??" (saw exactly 2 comments on the MBA) - and I think its worth and fun discussing it here were people are more attentive towards the MBA.
If you still think its not worth a comment in the MBA Forum than feel free to close again (couldn't send you a PM to discuss).
As currently on top of the rumor side link there is the rumor fed by Google ads in the Netherlands for new Macs, among them:
MacBook: Thinner, lighter and faster! Free delivery. Order today.
Could this be a possible merger of the MBA and the MB line? As we know many don't consider the current MBA a "real" revision. So a thinner and lighter MB - could that also mean a faster MBA-equivalent? Would give the slowly dying MB and the MBA a new boost. MB gets "sexier" (thinner) and the MBA gets faster, hopefully more RAM and larger SSD but maybe a tat thicker?
DEAR MODERATOR: I started this thread since in the other one nobody didn't even mention this possibility, there its all about "Why thinner iMacs??" (saw exactly 2 comments on the MBA) - and I think its worth and fun discussing it here were people are more attentive towards the MBA.
If you still think its not worth a comment in the MBA Forum than feel free to close again (couldn't send you a PM to discuss).
I sold my 2006 Mac Pro a couple of weeks back as I really didn't end up using its full power. I also live in a tiny flat so any extra space is much appreciated. Was also sick of my cheap plasticy Dell monitor. Hence I made up my mind to get an all in one iMac. Hearing about the update I'm holding off until they're out. Will get the moment they're out.
If there is a new thin design I think it's great. I would have happily bought the existing Dual Core 3.06 iMac as the design is aesthetically brilliant. Any improvement on this would be just an added bonus. Then again, should they still be the same (looking unlikely given this story) I wouldn't be upset. I don't really see the NEED for a thinner iMac cause as people point out they hardly take up much space at the moment. That said I'm excited to see what they end up looking like. You're kidding yourself if you think a company famous for it's design will go backwards and add a plinth onto the base of a monitor - simply won't happen.
Now comes the question of spec. I would have been happy to have a fast Dual Core pre update rumours. I use my mac for everyday tasks but working in Motion Graphics I would appreciate being able to do some After Effects/Maya/video encoding every so often should I need to work from home. Given their current spec I don't see this as being a problem. I'm currently having to work on a crap Dual Core PC at work and whilst a bit annoying at times, it's perfectly doable.
Having said that the Dual Cores are by any standards yesterdays technology and I would be looking for as much bang for my buck as possible. I'm no expert but I would be surprised if following a new case redesign they weren't to pop in a new processor. At least for the top of the range. It would be surprising if they were to stick completely with Dual Core given the release of Snow Leopard and how it was made to make the most of multiple cores.
I would also think it's getting more and more difficult for Apple to sell the iMac at the current (or similar) prices with Dual Cores the older they get. I think. Yes the average consumer is for the most part unaware of technical things but I think people are gradually getting more clued up. At a time when money is scarce people are more willing to do their research and find out what they're getting for their money. Dual Core machines no matter how pretty at the current price will get less and less punters as time goes on.
Can't wait til they're out. As I said, I need a desktop and so long as the spec is the same or more then I'll get one.
p.s. on the whole Optical debate, I wouldn't want to lose it completely. And bag of hurt or not, the lack of Blu Ray compared to PC's is surely going to start to hit Apple soon.
If there is a new thin design I think it's great. I would have happily bought the existing Dual Core 3.06 iMac as the design is aesthetically brilliant. Any improvement on this would be just an added bonus. Then again, should they still be the same (looking unlikely given this story) I wouldn't be upset. I don't really see the NEED for a thinner iMac cause as people point out they hardly take up much space at the moment. That said I'm excited to see what they end up looking like. You're kidding yourself if you think a company famous for it's design will go backwards and add a plinth onto the base of a monitor - simply won't happen.
Now comes the question of spec. I would have been happy to have a fast Dual Core pre update rumours. I use my mac for everyday tasks but working in Motion Graphics I would appreciate being able to do some After Effects/Maya/video encoding every so often should I need to work from home. Given their current spec I don't see this as being a problem. I'm currently having to work on a crap Dual Core PC at work and whilst a bit annoying at times, it's perfectly doable.
Having said that the Dual Cores are by any standards yesterdays technology and I would be looking for as much bang for my buck as possible. I'm no expert but I would be surprised if following a new case redesign they weren't to pop in a new processor. At least for the top of the range. It would be surprising if they were to stick completely with Dual Core given the release of Snow Leopard and how it was made to make the most of multiple cores.
I would also think it's getting more and more difficult for Apple to sell the iMac at the current (or similar) prices with Dual Cores the older they get. I think. Yes the average consumer is for the most part unaware of technical things but I think people are gradually getting more clued up. At a time when money is scarce people are more willing to do their research and find out what they're getting for their money. Dual Core machines no matter how pretty at the current price will get less and less punters as time goes on.
Can't wait til they're out. As I said, I need a desktop and so long as the spec is the same or more then I'll get one.
p.s. on the whole Optical debate, I wouldn't want to lose it completely. And bag of hurt or not, the lack of Blu Ray compared to PC's is surely going to start to hit Apple soon.
3 years is a long time in computing. Just think back 3 years from now and see what kit was about then. You might not need it today or tomorrow, but what about next year?? or the year after. if you want it to last 3 years before you think about a replacement then you need to think about furture proofing it as much as possible
I understand what your saying about quad core. The computing industry waits for no man...
If anything the computer industry waits too long. It's taken up to this year for many computer programs to even move up to Core 2 Duo in the recommended requirements. Yes having Quad core is nice but what's the point if so many programs don't even utilize it? By the time year 3 comes out all the programs that recently switched to Core 2 Duo will switch switch to Quads and by than the people who brought laptops or mid-range desktops will be ready to switch.
Their is a reason why up until very recently Quad Cores were only found (an in many cases still are) on workstations, computers designed to last users 6 years or so.
I have Windows 7 on my custom-built Intel i7 920 desktop (I've already given up on a powerful, reasonably-priced iMac). Windows 7 is pretty good. However, my Macbook is starting to show its age. If Apple delivers with the Macbook within a year, I'll buy one. However, if not, I'll go Windows 7 with my laptop as well.
I'd go for that. Dual core tech has come a long way since its introduction. You can push the envelope quite a bit with good dual-core solutions. I don't think we've seen the highest and best iteration of dual-core tech just yet.
So many applications don't even utiilize dual core yet, never mind quad core. And frankly, I'm past the age where I just want to enhance my e-peen with specs.
I wouldn't mind a quad core solution, but if price were a factor, a quad core system would be a lot more than I currently need. I'm much more interested in the form factor and connectivity solutions these days, to be honest. And how well the software is optmized for the system. And really, I'm finding that it's all about RAM - how it's managed and how much you can take advantage of.
Well if the Macbook is just going to be a Macbook Air but plastic, I see no reason why they shouldn't merge them.
It has the potential to be thinner. Wouldn't surprise me if we see a 2.5" hard drive in there instead to help that happen. Look how thin the MacBook Pro is - the iMac has the potential to be that thin (+ the screen thickness).
Whether that will sacrifice performance, who knows. As long as it is cooled in a good manner (maybe grills on the back) it's all good.
Whether that will sacrifice performance, who knows. As long as it is cooled in a good manner (maybe grills on the back) it's all good.
Why? As I mentioned earlier (page 5 I believe) it might be a merger of the MB with the MBA (thinner, lighter MB, faster MBA)...
From a marketing point of view it would make sense: MacBook PRO, MacBook AIR (or MINI actually...). The MB gets the MB TABLET maybe?
My predictions:
1. New design enclosure, but minimally so. If it was going to be very different at all you would see a keynote address for this and it appears we are simply going to get an online release.
2. Matte screen option for build to order.
3. Faster clock speed Core 2 Duo processors (no quad core) at slightly lower price points. Perhaps larger HDs at the same price points. RAM will likely remain 4 GB standard.
4. No Blu-Ray option until Jan/Feb 09 when the next iLife ships with the ability to burn to Blu-Ray.
5. New keyboard and mouse released at the same time.
I have waited a long time and will pull the trigger on a maxed out 24 inch to replace my 1st gen 20 inch intel iMac with a 32 bit Core Duo but I really want Blu-Ray burning but can't wait any longer.
1. New design enclosure, but minimally so. If it was going to be very different at all you would see a keynote address for this and it appears we are simply going to get an online release.
2. Matte screen option for build to order.
3. Faster clock speed Core 2 Duo processors (no quad core) at slightly lower price points. Perhaps larger HDs at the same price points. RAM will likely remain 4 GB standard.
4. No Blu-Ray option until Jan/Feb 09 when the next iLife ships with the ability to burn to Blu-Ray.
5. New keyboard and mouse released at the same time.
I have waited a long time and will pull the trigger on a maxed out 24 inch to replace my 1st gen 20 inch intel iMac with a 32 bit Core Duo but I really want Blu-Ray burning but can't wait any longer.
Exactly this. Hell I have a Quad-Core in my Desktop and a barely noticed a difference (and I do animation). Core Duo has come a long ass way since its introduction and it hasn't even reached its full potential yet. Just look how far its gone since they were in the first Macbooks.
My point is that Quad Core has recently been introduced and i7 isn't even a year old and the rest of the i# series isn't even out yet. They're going to have to have room to grow before they reach puberty.
Not to mention with all the new stuff out and coming out (SSD, Blu-Ray, New Port Formats, etc.) I'd wait a bit longer until these new technologies will find a way underhood with satisfactory performance without killing your wallet more than usual.
Why not make the Macbook and macbook air one and the same? Price. However, if Apple is OK dropping the price of the Macbook Air to $1000 (the CD drive would be an extra $100, effectively making it more expensive then a current Macbook, that's a very apple way to increase the average machine price), then I could see that happening.
The Macbook and the Macbook air would become the consumer laptop, without any ports, just wireless... meanwhile the Pro models would definitely be considered pro, especially compared to the Macbook!
I can see this happening, the air always seemed like the odd man out in the Apple lineup.
As far as the iMac is concerned, what if they thinned it out, made it anemic - more like a glorified netnop without the atom CPU, dropped the price, and then introduced something truly revolutionary... the headless iMac!
N.B.: Apple could really make the new macbook/iMac more of a consumer device by switching to an ARM CPU, making it run cooler, no more Windows on it, etc. Actually, that seems like a very Apple move! Price it correctly, and I'd get one if I had the money.
The Macbook and the Macbook air would become the consumer laptop, without any ports, just wireless... meanwhile the Pro models would definitely be considered pro, especially compared to the Macbook!
I can see this happening, the air always seemed like the odd man out in the Apple lineup.
As far as the iMac is concerned, what if they thinned it out, made it anemic - more like a glorified netnop without the atom CPU, dropped the price, and then introduced something truly revolutionary... the headless iMac!
N.B.: Apple could really make the new macbook/iMac more of a consumer device by switching to an ARM CPU, making it run cooler, no more Windows on it, etc. Actually, that seems like a very Apple move! Price it correctly, and I'd get one if I had the money.
MacBook Air
If there's any validity to these spy shots of Google ads, a regular MacBook that's thinner, lighter, faster and cheaper would be much preferable to an Air.
If a dozen computer makers can make lightweight netbooks and sell them for $300-400, Apple can make a lightweight MacBook and sell it for $800. The Air at $1500 is laugh worthy.
The MBA reminds me of the Cube; way overpriced for what it is.
If there's any validity to these spy shots of Google ads, a regular MacBook that's thinner, lighter, faster and cheaper would be much preferable to an Air.
If a dozen computer makers can make lightweight netbooks and sell them for $300-400, Apple can make a lightweight MacBook and sell it for $800. The Air at $1500 is laugh worthy.
Let me just ask this general question. Is anyone actually ever going to switch back to windows because this minor update doesn't use a completely new processor? note the word, minor update.
Watch haw fast Apple turns into GM. The executives produced cars based on the style and features they wanted for themselves and their families. They didn't care what people were actually buying - they knew better.
Of course they were all awkwardly tall, boring old men who only considered driving in Michigan winters. The models they approved or rejected reflected it... the cars "made sense" to them.
Of course they were all awkwardly tall, boring old men who only considered driving in Michigan winters. The models they approved or rejected reflected it... the cars "made sense" to them.
so a multi billion dollar company that makes ipods, iphones, and macs are going bankrupt?
Also, how do you figure they only build products apple wants for themselves. I am sure none of them want a little crappy cracking plastic macbook, yet they build em and sell em.