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Give me a break. Try encoding a couple of hours of HD video or hatching 1000 photos in Lightroom and tell me that the CPU in the iMac is fine for people. These aren't pro tasks, these are things many users do and the shouldn't have to own a $3000 mac pro to get decent performance when $1000 PCs can do these things easily.

You probably have a really valid point - I guess all I was saying is that with all the machines I have owned over the course of my computing life, I'm really happy with the performance that my Mac gives me and I'll gladly buy another one - 4 cores, 9 cores, 76 cores, 0 cores. I'll admit that I've never owned a 'top of the line' machine so perhaps I don't know what I'm missing. I do know that I have about 80 GBs of photos and I've never had an issue with how my Mac deals with them. I'm sure if I was shown how another machine deals with them I'd be really impressed.

At any rate, I didn't post to be proven wrong or to be told what I need or don't need - just my feelings on the whole situation. I don't mean to dismiss other users needs or belittle what their intepretation of the ideal machine should look like.

Here's what I know for a fact: When my 2 year old son is watching Ice Age 3 streaming through AppleTV, it just works. And that's just one of the reasons that I'll buy another Mac.
 
Not sure where all you guys find these sites showing 2-3 weeks for Mini Macs and iMac shipping? I just visited the Apple.ca site, went to the educational site and it shows a 24" iMac ships with in 24 hours, or if you altered the configuration, 2-4 business days.


I ordered our 24" iMac on Sept 18/09 and NO one can even give me an ETA. Seems to me like all Apple is doing is stoking the rumor mill to build hype around the supposed update/upgrade. We will all look silly if it is simply a supply shortage.

The education store for the iMac say 2 weeks shipping, Not 24hrs. This is obviously happening soon.
 
you can see imac air configurator links on the right

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Ya I was clicking through and landed on a page that talked about how Apple techs got suction cups to pull out the iMacs screens which is easy because they screen is just attached with 14 magnets! That is really cool! :D

http://www.google.es/imgres?imgurl=...tK2iBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=5&ct=image
 
Give me a break. Try encoding a couple of hours of HD video or hatching 1000 photos in Lightroom and tell me that the CPU in the iMac is fine for people. These aren't pro tasks, these are things many users do and the shouldn't have to own a $3000 mac pro to get decent performance when $1000 PCs can do these things easily.

I use Lightroom (2.2 C2D MBP 15") but have no idea what you mean by "hatching". My current bottleneck is SMB/AFP performance over the net, as my media live on my 1.6GHz G5. Lightroom does seem to use both cores, at least when doing a bulk import. Would it use four? No idea, though it'd be nice if it did. Will FC/FCE use four cores? That'd sell it better for me.
 
It's time to give Mac mini not only an update but a complete overhaul. They should incorporate more capabilities to act as a media centre in the living room. I am really looking forward having a more complete solution from Apple....at least give an update to the FrontRow to better support on the dolby surround sound.
 
This is starting to creep me out. I mean Imac starting out at $1099 can't wait to see what they leave out of that. Also going ultra thin. so that sounds like the slot loading Dvd stays. I was hoping to get a blu ray as an extra. Perhaps a better processor. I hope apple doesn't make me regret not buying the current Imac. :confused:
 
New Macbook?

Hey, I wouldn't mind getting a new Macbook design. I currently have one in white with a 2 GHZ core intel duo, with a superdrive,512 Hz of memory, and I actually find it a big heavy to lug about. I don't however want to give up the fire wire capability and I would like to see it in other colors - like aqua, orange, and so forth kind of like the iPod nanos. I also would like to see it under $999. (like maybe $600-$800)I recently got a new Mac Mini and I am happy with that. I have NO viruses, NO worms, NO problems- which is what I keep telling my husband who gets all excited over some Windows clone that always has worms, viruses and no technical support.( So, you have to pay for an Applecare thing- but that is a lot better than chucking the thing out the window or paying $$$$ if you don't have Applecare- and believe me, if he had insisted and gotten some Windows clone- it would have been me on the phone with these Windows clones for the non-existent technical support and it would have been me chucking the useless Windows clone out the window.(pardon the pun) I know that Apple has a lot of issues including expense, and sometimes things breaking down, and I've had my share of problems with the Macbook too, but I rather at least go with something that has reasonably worked well for me. Mac Rules!
 
If Apple is going to do simple speed bumps we might see them tomorrow or Thursday. If Apple's going to do another media event I'd expect invites to go out tomorrow or Tuesday for an Oct. 13th event.
 
If Apple is going to do simple speed bumps we might see them tomorrow or Thursday. If Apple's going to do another media event I'd expect invites to go out tomorrow or Tuesday for an Oct. 13th event.

Seeing as how the cat is already out of the bag, I doubt they are going to do a big media event. Therefore, I predict a quiet speed bump with little fanfare beyond their normal holiday ad campaign.
 
Kinda funny when reading this page (from Belgium) I get an Google advertisment at the bottom that reads

The brand new iMac
Thin 20 & 24 inch models. Starting from 1149 euro. Apple Belgium.

One thing that I noticed straight away is that in Belgium we will possibly have a price increase :( The cheapest iMac you can buy for now in the Belgian apple store costs 1099 euro.
 

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Those may not be pro tasks to you, but I highly doubt the average consumer even knows how to do those things. If you want a good idea of who the average consumer is go to an Apple store and listen in on a 1 to 1 training thing.

Its not that the iMac shouldn't be able to do those things, but Apple has no need to give you power when it sells the machines just fine. Plus, the notebooks are their better machines.
Thas because the trainersdint know shake, logic, fcp anymore.
It used to be for creatives, now it's all for some grandma wanting to know how to send an email attachment.

The iPhone caused the iMac to fall from grace as it used to be considered a semi pro machine, thus the matte option. Then apple decided too screw them over. Now that they have mom and pop buyers, they dump .mac dump computer in the name and make mobile me look like something windows would release and stopped training the 1 to 1 trainers, pro apps.

Is as if apple screes the pro user and even though the gaming, audio, video enthusiast is a larger market then the pros, apple still has not released anything for this target and expects them to pay $3000 for a mac pro. Speaking of which, if you've ever used one, everything from opening files to web to iPhoto blazes past what the iMac can do amd if you use logic, heck even garage band, you will get it running faster with more virtual instruments.

People want more power even if they don't know it however these days, most are very computer savvy.
 
But skip the event, instead add a number of movies which show the news Imac/Macbook closely. It goes much faster, better, and we do not have any undue fuss and waiting for events to start.

A launch tomorrow, it would not be entirely wrong.

Please. I can not wait longer.

There's been no word of invitations, so announcements tomorrow are unlikely. If it is going to happen in October at all, then I'd guess the 20 October as others have before.
 
Is as if apple screes the pro user and even though the gaming, audio, video enthusiast is a larger market then the pros, apple still has not released anything for this target and expects them to pay $3000 for a mac pro. Speaking of which, if you've ever used one, everything from opening files to web to iPhoto blazes past what the iMac can do amd if you use logic, heck even garage band, you will get it running faster with more virtual instruments.

People want more power even if they don't know it however these days, most are very computer savvy.

Apple screws the pro users, and the enthusiasts. But Apple isn't trying to cater to our needs, they are trying to make sales. Mac Pros are great, though I've tackled most of my tasks on my MBP no problem. Though I will say I could speed up things with better hardware...

I don't think most iMac users sit around and go "man I wish I had more power." In fact most Mac users are happy with their machine the way it is. People will take whatever Apple decides to equip their machines with and unfortunately its not exactly great news for the informed consumer.

I'm not saying they shouldn't add more power for the same/lower prices, who wouldn't want that? I'm just simply saying I wouldn't expect it from Apple. Just look at their trend in their Pro machines...MBP that used to have only a glassy screen, a $800 LED display with 1 form of connectivity and again with the glass, even the iMacs. The PRO would rather have the option to pick the hardware and build what they need, Apple simply tries to tell you what you need. That's their game.
 
I built my first computer in 1979 or 1980 (a Sinclair ZX-81) with my Dad.

The ZX-81 started selling in 1981 and the earlier ZX-80 started selling in 1980 (UK dates, probably later in America). Both came as pre-built or build-yourself ... but you should have bought a real computer like the Commodore VIC-20. ;)
 
Was in my local Apple store again today, (genius bar appointment for iphone). casually mentioned to the guy serving me that I was awaiting the release of the new iMac sometime soon. He just smiled and said "shouldn't be long".

Thats twice in a week someone from that store has confirmed to me its happening and quite soon.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=8582240#post8582240

Like I've said before hopefully won't be long but who knows with Apple. :):)
 
The ZX-81 started selling in 1981 and the earlier ZX-80 started selling in 1980 (UK dates, probably later in America). Both came as pre-built or build-yourself ... but you should have bought a real computer like the Commodore VIC-20. ;)

No, a Commodore PET. Now THAT was a real computer! The only early PC that could actually do math correctly, because it didn't use Microsoft's floating point package. I had one and I loved it. Long live Chuck Peddle! :D
 
The ZX-81 started selling in 1981 and the earlier ZX-80 started selling in 1980 (UK dates, probably later in America). Both came as pre-built or build-yourself ... but you should have bought a real computer like the Commodore VIC-20. ;)

Ahhhhhh the memories - we ordered it as the build yourself model. We spent countless nights at the kitchen table soldering the dang thing together - then came the fateful night to hook it up to the TV and..........nothing. ARG. Ordered another one, countless nights etc. and lo and behold we had a working computer.

Then came the VIC-20, (spent days on end playing the original Zork)
Then came the C-64 (broke 4 joysticks running the 1500 meters in the original Summer Games), The Amiga and the 128 (which always seemed to find it's way back into 64 mode for summer olympics......)
 
Bullcrap, almost everyone knows the difference between dual and quad core and will just calculate 2 x 3.06 or 4 x 2.66 which is best (though it doesn't really work that way).

Any salesman can easily explain this and a nice little graphic showing how much faster a pc is versus the top of the line imac will convince anyone.

For the average consumer all they know is "I think it's quicker, it feels a little snappier" I don't think the average consumer even knows how to use that kinda power. I mean don't you need write software to take advantage of quad core? The only people who I see would actually use that kind of CPU power would be your professionals in the Audio production, video and animation fields. Concidering we used to have single core computers and got along with them just fine, I think dual core is more than enough for the average consumer.

I also hear people talking about the bigger and faster CPU all the time. They never mention the hard drive. The hard drive is the biggest bottle neck in any modern computer system. Until they don't solve the hard drive problem (SSD) I don't care how many CPU's it has.
 
It seems then not be an update tomorrow (Tuesday). Damn. I will be disappointed. Now we must wait another week.
 
Was in my local Apple store again today, (genius bar appointment for iphone). casually mentioned to the guy serving me that I was awaiting the release of the new iMac sometime soon. He just smiled and said "shouldn't be long".

Thats twice in a week someone from that store has confirmed to me its happening and quite soon.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=8582240#post8582240

Like I've said before hopefully won't be long but who knows with Apple. :):)

Could still be tomorrow, who knows?
 
It seems then not be an update tomorrow (Tuesday). Damn. I will be disappointed. Now we must wait another week.

sob, i've been waiting and waiting...how come time runs so fast on school but slow on apple's product refreshment??but if they really want to compete with window7, new macs should be released before 22nd though:rolleyes:.....probably in two weeks??
 
I use Lightroom (2.2 C2D MBP 15") but have no idea what you mean by "hatching". My current bottleneck is SMB/AFP performance over the net, as my media live on my 1.6GHz G5. Lightroom does seem to use both cores, at least when doing a bulk import. Would it use four? No idea, though it'd be nice if it did. Will FC/FCE use four cores? That'd sell it better for me.

Sorry that was "batch encoding" which somehow got mangled by the auto correct on my iphone and became "hatching".

I don't do any "hatching" on Lightroom 2, but I do a lot of other things that manage to peg my 2.93ghz C2D iMac.
 
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