Billionaires flattering one another with imagined cash from imagined valuations. It's one step from a crypto scam. Honestly I think these guys are so divorced from life outside private jest and 8th houses in Italy and $80,000 dollar bottle of wine they won't make anything remotely useful. Its super power will probably be to order your housekeepers to do your wash when you are away on a vacation.
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OpenAI Buys Jony Ive's AI Startup to 'Completely Reimagine What It Means to Use a Computer'
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Steve saw something in Jony Ive, and together, they brought amazing products to market. I believe Ive still has the spark of a design genius in himself, and I can’t wait to see what he comes up with this time.
Wouldn’t that be a bit like if Apple had released a Nokia-like feature phone a few years earlier instead of the iPhone?
I think these devices are always going to be a bit of a novelty if they don’t have true AR and the ability to replace computer displays. Sure, they have some niche use-cases, but they’re not enough to drive mainstream adoption.
Exactly. Promise and flatter each other and tell everyone it's going to change the world and then wheel out - on a Segway.
I genuinely feel like this would kill Apple, no joke
Apple did exactly this…
They are going to be like an Apple Watch style companion device at first, they won't replace an iPhone in the short term
$6.5 billion haha Jony Ive is incredibly shrewd.
I see this as a non-story as Apple is firing on all cylinders, it's not just product, it's services, music, tv, banking (apple pay) & the growth potential is still immense.
Only thing that concerns me about Apple is that they only have $50Bn in cash.
I'd be looking to increase that significantly when going into the unknown world of AI.
If I was Jony, I'd be asking what the learning capabilities of OpenAI are?
After all, if it can learn from how the team work & their thought process, what's to stop it ejecting the human element at some point!😂
Only thing that concerns me about Apple is that they only have $50Bn in cash.
I'd be looking to increase that significantly when going into the unknown world of AI.
If I was Jony, I'd be asking what the learning capabilities of OpenAI are?
After all, if it can learn from how the team work & their thought process, what's to stop it ejecting the human element at some point!😂
You genuinely feel like *what* would kill Apple?
What is the “this” you speak of?
"I have a growing sense that everything I have learned over the last 30 years has led me to this place, and to this moment,"
I think Ive needs to get out a bit more….
I think Ive needs to get out a bit more….
I feel like it’s vaporware built on top of a foundation of vaporware. That’s the real innovation here, driving valuations on nothing.
Sorry. I apologize. I just thought it was obvious. Especially for me, as the more it does, and how quickly it's improving, has me thinking of it as magic.
Not really.
Even if I will be eventually replaced by an AI coder, I will still use AI to code today.
I learn from AI, it helps me write better code faster. And by using the AI stuff, I grasp where the industry is moving and find opportunities within it.
It always better to go with the trend.
I mean, you could use VIM and command line, but I am going to leverage my IDE, and many people will also
This.
Yeah, it feels that Apple has made a three really really big mistakes:
- Getting behind with Siri when they were a first mover with voice assistants.
- Not immediately calling a code red situation as google did as soon as Chat GPT 3.5 was launched
- Doubling down on protecting the App Store above everything seemingly - and burning their relationship with their developers.
A tectonic shift is happening where GenAI is really going to change things - and Apple is behind seemingly without a plan - and nor does it many friends who are going to be there for it, when it needs help.
It behaved like the iPhone was going to be king forever and developers should be grateful.
But as all empires find out, nothing lasts forever.
An extraordinary waste of money. A company of 55 engineers and designers with exactly what IP? It would seem we are in the crazy bubble zone if these sort of valuations are attached to vapourware.
OpenAI is acquiring io, the hardware-based AI startup co-created by Jony Ive, OpenAI announced today. Ive has been working with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman on io for two years, and the duo expects to develop a family of AI devices.
In a video shared by OpenAI, Altman and Ive outlined their partnership and what they expect to create as a result of the merger. "I have a growing sense that everything I have learned over the last 30 years has led me to this place, and to this moment," said Ive. "What we've been working on, I think, has completely captured our imagination."
According to Altman, Ive gave him a prototype of the first device to take home to test. "I've been able to live with it, and I think it is the coolest piece of technology that the world will have ever seen," he said.
"The products that we're using to deliver and connect us to unimaginable technology, they're decades old. It's just common sense to at least think surely there's something beyond these legacy products," explained Ive.
Ive will be involved in the design of the device, as will several former Apple design employees who co-founded io with Ive, including Tang Tan, Scott Cannon, and Evans Hankey, who led design at Apple after Ive left the company in 2019. Mark Newson, a designer Ive has worked with on several products, is also on the team. Hankey, Tan, and Cannon will join OpenAI.
OpenAI has been in talks with Altman and Ive about an acquisition or a partnership since April. OpenAI will provide the AI expertise for the device, while io will handle engineering and LoveFrom will work on design. LoveFrom will take over all design at OpenAI.
"I think we have the opportunity here to kind of completely reimagine what it means to use a computer," Altman said. Past leaks and details about io have described what Ive is working on as a smartphone without a screen, though little is known about it at this time. Similar screen-free voice-based AI devices like the Rabbit R1 and the Humane Ai Pin have so far not fared well, but Ive is famous for his design expertise, and OpenAI is an industry leader. The partnership could result in a device that other companies aren't capable of producing.
"I am absolutely certain that we are literally on the brink of a new generation of technology that can make us our better selves," Ive said.
OpenAI's effort to create an AI hardware product would put it in direct competition with Apple. Apple is behind on AI development, and it is facing a future where people are waiting for the next big thing that could serve as an iPhone replacement. The first device from the partnership between OpenAI and Ive is expected to be something different, with more information set to come in 2026.
OpenAI's acquisition of io is subject to regulatory approval and is expected to be completed this summer. It is OpenAI's biggest acquisition to date, with the company paying $6.5 billion for io, according to Bloomberg.
Article Link: OpenAI Buys Jony Ive's AI Startup to 'Completely Reimagine What It Means to Use a Computer'
Eddy just said that because he’s trying to keep the Google search deal which is 99% profit for Apple.Eddy Cue thinks we won't need iPhones/devices with displays in the future. He thinks wearables (smart glasses) combined with advancements in A.I. will replace it [iPhone].
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I disagree. Wouldn't people who play games on their iPhone have to carry around a controller? Battery life of smart glasses are terrible too. Streaming music for an hour or two will completely drain the battery of the Meta Ray-Ban smart glasses.
Just because such and such is making a 6 fold phone it doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Apple is doing what they usually do. They let other people figure out the folding technology and will then create their own as to not incorporate other peoples’ failures. It is also still TBD if this is even the future. As for AI… they are behind because of their commitment to privacy. They will need to determine what is enough and what is too much.
I’m bearish on GenAI but I think this thread and probably most subsequent ones before launch, assuming it does launch, will be similar to the classic MR thread when the iPod was announced. Read: nearly everyone was wrong.
Time will tell. I don’t think Ive will launch a garbage device, but the article also doesn’t say Ive is joining OpenAI which is a clear hedge, that is my singular reservation about this deal.
Time will tell. I don’t think Ive will launch a garbage device, but the article also doesn’t say Ive is joining OpenAI which is a clear hedge, that is my singular reservation about this deal.
^^^ This. It's spring and everyone is jockeying to win the messaging war over AI. OpenAI wants to leapfrog Google IO and capitalize on Apple's lack of billboard AI features. You need to give it time to separate the hype from what actually launches.
This is what happens when a company is flush with investor cash and no expectation to turn a profit anytime soon.