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LLMs are really good at doing tedious tasks for you

today I had to deal with lists of items formatted as paragraphs that someone typed all in lowercase. an LLM was able to capitalize the first letter of each word in all of the paragraphs in seconds. this would have taken me at least an hour to correct by hand, but probably longer because it would have been tedious so I'd have been easily distracted

LLMs are excellent at that sort of thing
Pretty sure you could have done that in MS Word easily.
 
Ive robbed him blind if he really got that much. Maybe tiny AI nanobots that settle in to every pore of your body and make your life simple by doing everything you should be doing. The future of computing is no humans. Lol
 
I have a huge respect for both of these guys, BUT the video is cringe: two famous leaders releasing a video saying that they are awesome.

How about instead just getting to work and answering to anyone (the whole world) asking: "We are humbly working on something we think is really cool, but have nothing to announce at this time".
 
So … much … hot … air. Ive is feeling Oppenheimer-type guilt for smartphone addiction, Altmann is desperate for a „thing“ that will actually make instead of burn money for him.

Just look up the top 10 most used apps / services on smartphones and then ask yourself how many of them would work at all on a screenless device (let alone work better).

We all want to see the „next big thing“, but this just ain‘t it.
The problem with a screen less device is that the transfer of information can’t be silent. And there are so many situations where making noise is going to be massively disruptive.

You get that now at work if something opens IG and forgets they have the sound on :lol:

How can you have an office environment with 20 ai assistants constantly reading out information.

Perhaps they have solved this issue another way, but to me a screen seems critical for reading information in a setting where noise would be inappropriate.
 
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They are going to be like an Apple Watch style companion device at first, they won't replace an iPhone in the short term

Yes, for the foreseeable future any AR glasses-like device will, no doubt, need a phone (or laptop etc) nearby for full functionality and connectivity.

Otherwise it’s just not possible to put the sort of processing power and connectivity needed into that form factor.
 
Pretty sure you could have done that in MS Word easily.

oh how?

....

edit ok I found it. never claimed to be an ms word expert ;)

I stand by my statement that, for better or worse, LLMs are super handy for stuff like this. also writing little scripts for things when you don't really know how to code
 
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AI is so interesting. On the one hand, it totally removes friction from a ton of jobs. On the other hand, it's lying to you about half the time or more, people literally take it at its word, and it's trained on a ton of stolen data. If you say you use it in certain jobs (artist, writer, filmmaker,) you're shunned by your peers and attacked, and if you don't use it or see how it will increase your work flow, you're going to be unemployed fast. The jobs it's best at are under advertised, and it's given a ton of people who don't really understand it a false confidence. It is also environmentally objectively terrible. I use it. I'd be a fool not to. The AI presentation by google yesterday was shockingly good. It is also shockingly expensive. Apple should be the one announcing those features, available on Macs in three weeks. The way you could make AI videos as adds from the google tools... But I will say this, I suspect the reason the tools are so expensive is this is a bit like the gold rush. There is gold out there, and plenty of money to be made. However it's gonna be a lot easier to get rich selling the gold diggers the shovels. Google open AI, those are the shovel companies. I pay for Chat GPT, but I don't trust Sam. I have always liked Jonny, despite his obvious Hubris. I like him less partnering with Sam. It's a bit like Tim Cook. I've defended him for years, until all of this stuff came out. Now I think he should step down. Still, at least Mac hardware is in a very good place. But they need to adopt these type of tools yesterday to keep going.

If I have to Vibe Code versions of the software I currently use for my work on a linux or windows computer in three years because Apple can't keep up with these advancements so I have to switch operating systems, I will be cranky. I still don't understand why so many people are eager for AI though, it's going to take more peoples jobs than everyone thinks if it works half as well as everyone acts like it does.
 
If Ive is involved it will be the thinnest AI device ever.

Also, I’m highly skeptical we’re moving away from screens towards voice as our primary interaction with our electronic leashes.
I agree. Can you imagine each single one of the countless tapping, typing, and swiping interactions people have with their “electronic leashes” be replaced by voice commands? There would be constant chatter everywhere and interactions in places where silence is required would be impossible.
 
The notion that the future is devoid of screens is simply absurd. Sometimes, an image is worth a thousand words. Like when I glance at my calendar to check my schedule or availability. It takes me a few seconds to do this. Would spoken words be effective for this? Pffff... not even close!

The obvious future of personal devices IMO lies in all the above - audio, video, and speech. It’s a no-brainer! I’m afraid the first generation of these devices will simply be AI-curated data screens built into our glasses, along with audio-speech and microphones in our next-generation smaller earphones.
At least until people begin to accept implants. :rolleyes:

(PS Granted Apple is behind the AI curve but not in all the others, and yes all including all AI have major room for improvement!)
 
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On the one hand, it totally removes friction from a ton of jobs. On the other hand, it's lying to you about half the time or more, people literally take it at its word, and it's trained on a ton of stolen data. If you say you use it in certain jobs (artist, writer, filmmaker,) you're shunned by your peers and attacked, and if you don't use it or see how it will increase your work flow, you're going to be unemployed fast. The jobs it's best at are under advertised, and it's given a ton of people who don't really understand it a false confidence. It is also environmentally objectively terrible. I use it. I'd be a fool not to.

very well said

I recently used an LLM to help with a project on the advise of my spouse who works in a more corporate environment

it literally saved me dozens of hours of both research and document formatting. the amount of time it took to validate the research and correct the formatting came nowhere near the amount of time the actual work would have taken to do.

would I personally have preferred to have employed a human to do this work? sure.
would my boss have paid for such? absolutely not.

so it turned something that would have been a seemingly insurmountable task for me in to something entirely manageable

I still feel uneasy about it all, especially due to the stealing of work and the environmental impact, but.....
 
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Imagine believing DeepSeek is a serious alternative, and not just a CCP operation for data mining
Imagine conflating the backing/funding of a service with its usefulness. Let's for argument sake say all DeepSeek is a data hoovering machine. Does that mean it isn't good at it? It's not providing more useful results than another AI service? No. Both can be true.
 
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OpenAI is acquiring io, the hardware-based AI startup co-created by Jony Ive, OpenAI announced today. Ive has been working with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman on io for two years, and the duo expects to develop a family of AI devices.


In a video shared by OpenAI, Altman and Ive outlined their partnership and what they expect to create as a result of the merger. "I have a growing sense that everything I have learned over the last 30 years has led me to this place, and to this moment," said Ive. "What we've been working on, I think, has completely captured our imagination."

According to Altman, Ive gave him a prototype of the first device to take home to test. "I've been able to live with it, and I think it is the coolest piece of technology that the world will have ever seen," he said.

"The products that we're using to deliver and connect us to unimaginable technology, they're decades old. It's just common sense to at least think surely there's something beyond these legacy products," explained Ive.

Ive will be involved in the design of the device, as will several former Apple design employees who co-founded io with Ive, including Tang Tan, Scott Cannon, and Evans Hankey, who led design at Apple after Ive left the company in 2019. Mark Newson, a designer Ive has worked with on several products, is also on the team. Hankey, Tan, and Cannon will join OpenAI.

OpenAI has been in talks with Altman and Ive about an acquisition or a partnership since April. OpenAI will provide the AI expertise for the device, while io will handle engineering and LoveFrom will work on design. LoveFrom will take over all design at OpenAI.

"I think we have the opportunity here to kind of completely reimagine what it means to use a computer," Altman said. Past leaks and details about io have described what Ive is working on as a smartphone without a screen, though little is known about it at this time. Similar screen-free voice-based AI devices like the Rabbit R1 and the Humane Ai Pin have so far not fared well, but Ive is famous for his design expertise, and OpenAI is an industry leader. The partnership could result in a device that other companies aren't capable of producing.

"I am absolutely certain that we are literally on the brink of a new generation of technology that can make us our better selves," Ive said.

OpenAI's effort to create an AI hardware product would put it in direct competition with Apple. Apple is behind on AI development, and it is facing a future where people are waiting for the next big thing that could serve as an iPhone replacement. The first device from the partnership between OpenAI and Ive is expected to be something different, with more information set to come in 2026.

OpenAI's acquisition of io is subject to regulatory approval and is expected to be completed this summer. It is OpenAI's biggest acquisition to date, with the company paying $6.5 billion for io, according to Bloomberg.

Article Link: OpenAI Buys Jony Ive's AI Startup to 'Completely Reimagine What It Means to Use a Computer'
Thinness is Ive’s trademark and obsession. Therefore, their next-gen device has got be either a contact lens or a fingernail clip-on. The lens you control with eye movement and motion gestures. The lens or nail will have solar panels deliver the electrical power charging the nanometer thin battery ring on the edge. The manual will have a set of instructions on how to activate positive thoughts to charge the ring before bedtime. I believe it will be a contact lens rather than a fingernail clip-on because lenses will make life-size VR projection and viewing possible. You can view different programs on each lens and as you walk around in public, you can set the transparency in increments to blend with or fully bring in the view of your surroundings. Cameras, yes. To focus when you take a picture, you squint your eyes. Micrphone, yes. Lense audio connects wirelessly to earbuds. The outer ring of the lens can be used as a flashlight. Did i forget something? If it were an Apple product, it would be called RetinaVision Pro.
 


OpenAI is acquiring io, the hardware-based AI startup co-created by Jony Ive, OpenAI announced today. Ive has been working with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman on io for two years, and the duo expects to develop a family of AI devices.


In a video shared by OpenAI, Altman and Ive outlined their partnership and what they expect to create as a result of the merger. "I have a growing sense that everything I have learned over the last 30 years has led me to this place, and to this moment," said Ive. "What we've been working on, I think, has completely captured our imagination."

According to Altman, Ive gave him a prototype of the first device to take home to test. "I've been able to live with it, and I think it is the coolest piece of technology that the world will have ever seen," he said.

"The products that we're using to deliver and connect us to unimaginable technology, they're decades old. It's just common sense to at least think surely there's something beyond these legacy products," explained Ive.

Ive will be involved in the design of the device, as will several former Apple design employees who co-founded io with Ive, including Tang Tan, Scott Cannon, and Evans Hankey, who led design at Apple after Ive left the company in 2019. Mark Newson, a designer Ive has worked with on several products, is also on the team. Hankey, Tan, and Cannon will join OpenAI.

OpenAI has been in talks with Altman and Ive about an acquisition or a partnership since April. OpenAI will provide the AI expertise for the device, while io will handle engineering and LoveFrom will work on design. LoveFrom will take over all design at OpenAI.

"I think we have the opportunity here to kind of completely reimagine what it means to use a computer," Altman said. Past leaks and details about io have described what Ive is working on as a smartphone without a screen, though little is known about it at this time. Similar screen-free voice-based AI devices like the Rabbit R1 and the Humane Ai Pin have so far not fared well, but Ive is famous for his design expertise, and OpenAI is an industry leader. The partnership could result in a device that other companies aren't capable of producing.

"I am absolutely certain that we are literally on the brink of a new generation of technology that can make us our better selves," Ive said.

OpenAI's effort to create an AI hardware product would put it in direct competition with Apple. Apple is behind on AI development, and it is facing a future where people are waiting for the next big thing that could serve as an iPhone replacement. The first device from the partnership between OpenAI and Ive is expected to be something different, with more information set to come in 2026.

OpenAI's acquisition of io is subject to regulatory approval and is expected to be completed this summer. It is OpenAI's biggest acquisition to date, with the company paying $6.5 billion for io, according to Bloomberg.

Article Link: OpenAI Buys Jony Ive's AI Startup to 'Completely Reimagine What It Means to Use a Computer'
MacRumors should have a contest on guessing the type of this next-gen device and what it will be called. The winning prize is obvious.
 
Disgusting and sad on so many levels.

The "next big thing" is gonna be people reducing how many screens or tech gadgets they use, en masse. Social media and smartdevices are nothing but a destructive force that make you dumber, less safe, and addicted.

desktops and laptops are fine. a basic phone or watch for calls, texts, and directions is fine.
I agree with everything you’ve said. With modern smart phones we’ve traded usability and depth for convenience and endless consumption. I’m not completely anti smartphone, I just think things were better when they were a companion device to a dedicated desktop or laptop.

Smartphones being the default tech people turn to has lead to the web becoming unusable and basically just big billboards of images with limited text designed to be scrolled through. Sites that have in depth information with detailed text are becoming super rare - just look at Apple’s own site and online store for this.

Also, I used the Sidekick/Hiptop back in the day and miss that form factor and physical keyboard. It’s sad that the default expected behavior of smartphone keyboards is that you’re going to type incorrectly and the software is expected to guess what you actually meant to type. I think it’s just making people dumber and setting an expectation that well written and detailed text is old fashioned - it’s all about people talking in short attention span portrait videos. Those along with endlessly scrolling websites of mostly marketing photos and buzzwords are all the modern web needs!!
 
Neither AI nor Jony will bring down Apple.
At least it may be that Apple focuses on what is important and stops emojis and backgrounds.
 
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