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'OpenCore Computer' Launches Commercial Hackintosh in Violation of Apple's macOS Licensing Agreement [Updated]

Does this even matter if Apple is going to ARM? I think OpenCore panicked! Too little too late!
 
iBluetooth said:
Im afraid that this may make it harder for us normal users to make Hackintoshes. Because so far Apple has looked the other way and not used code to prevent it
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Sorry what? It's ok for you a 'normal user' to break the law but not a company to do it. That's what you're saying right.
 
KindredMAC said:
I miss the days of Power Computing when a Power Computing Mac Clone was faster and more robust than what Apple offered. Hence why the clone program was dropped. Apple did do a good job in the Power Mac G4 and G5 days of making those computers beasts but since the turn to Intel they have steadily lost their edge again. I’m actually shocked that Apple hasn’t gone Ryzen in the Mac Pro and iMac lines. They need to do something in the price per spec territory or we could see another repeat of the mid-90’s history.
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The higher end Power Computing clones were good but the lower end were crap! Worked at an ad agency and all the writer's hand-me down macs from the designers were replaced with new PowerComputing. Biggest mistake ever! Older Macs were already sent back to the leasing company. We has writers asking for Mac from the spare parts pile.

Note: Apple's deal with Intel will prevent AMD x86 CPUs on Macs.
 
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jinnj said:
The higher end Power Computing clones were good but the lower end were crap! Worked at an ad agency and all the writer's hand-me down macs from the designers were replaced with new PowerComputing. Biggest mistake ever! Older Macs were already sent back to the leasing company. We has writers asking for Mac from the spare parts pile.

Note: Apple's deal with Intel will prevent AMD x86 CPUs on Macs.
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I worked at Exponential Technology at the time and all those guys were going to use our chips, but we needed apple’s permission to modify the bios slightly to boot up right, and Jobs came back and killed the whole thing. Put us out of business.
 
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Kabeyun said:
GLWT

And, in this case, illegal. In case this isn’t clear, you also can’t steal the recipe for KFC and then “compete” selling fried chicken.
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While I agree with you on the computer, IIRC recipes are not protected, the bets KFC can do is treat it as a trade secret. If you figure it out you're free to use the recipe, just don't use any of KFC's trademarks.
 
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matrixv said:
Did you miss the part where I said allow people to "buy" their OS?
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This company isn’t “buying” anything.

And unless Apple charges $400 per copy, they would lose money on the deal, having to support all sorts of hardware configurations that they don’t even make.

Apple tried this in the 1990’s, back in the days when people actually were willing to fork over a credit card to get an OS and to get updates. It nearly put them out of business.

Now NOBODY is willing to pay for updates, and only a very small number of people pay for OS’s (and usually what they are really paying for is support, cloud services, etc., and not the OS itself)
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KindredMAC said:
I miss the days of Power Computing when a Power Computing Mac Clone was faster and more robust than what Apple offered. Hence why the clone program was dropped. Apple did do a good job in the Power Mac G4 and G5 days of making those computers beasts but since the turn to Intel they have steadily lost their edge again. I’m actually shocked that Apple hasn’t gone Ryzen in the Mac Pro and iMac lines. They need to do something in the price per spec territory or we could see another repeat of the mid-90’s history.
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I don't know...I was at a design firm and they got 2 clones. And they were not stable. Or fast. It was a very windows like experience (as in installing and hoping things still work). And now, with all the inoperability with iCloud and iDevices...I think any clone would be an absolute nightmare. I'd say just buy into the Windows world and avoid a Mac if you don't want to purchase from within their system. Lots, and lots, and lots of people do. But clones were a nightmare in my personal experience.
 
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wilhoitm said:
It's 2020! What Apps are you running that are not 64-bit? :)
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I'm down to three, listed by priority:
  1. Bento: another great app that Apple killed
    • I can export as CSV, import into FileMaker, Tap Forms, Records, Airtable, Ninox... or worst case scenario, Excel or Sheets, and then do a full week's worth of tinkering, so I'm debating if it would make more sense to just open it in a virtual machine.
  2. FastTrack Schedule 10: they have a 64-bit beta but are battling Catalina bugs to ship the release
  3. VW_Keyboard-Mac v2: not a must-have dealbreaker by any means
 
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jlc1978 said:
While I agree with you on the computer, IIRC recipes are not protected, the bets KFC can do is treat it as a trade secret. If you figure it out you're free to use the recipe, just don't use any of KFC's trademarks.
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I guess the McDowells figured it out...

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cmaier said:
This company isn’t “buying” anything.

And unless Apple charges $400 per copy, they would lose money on the deal, having to support all sorts of hardware configurations that they don’t even make.

Apple tried this in the 1990’s, back in the days when people actually were willing to fork over a credit card to get an OS and to get updates. It nearly put them out of business.

Now NOBODY is willing to pay for updates, and only a very small number of people pay for OS’s (and usually what they are really paying for is support, cloud services, etc., and not the OS itself)
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You completely missed the point yet again... LOL

I wasn't referring to "this" company buying macOS, but rather end users. I also did not say Apple would offer any support whatsoever to said end users. You clearly see what you want to see when you read things.

Apple wouldn't stand to lose any money if they offered to sell macOS for say $200 and provided zero support.

You must be thinking Apple would sell less machines, thus losing money. I seriously doubt that. Hackintoshers are going to Hackintosh regardless of Apple's blessing. At least this way Apple is making some money off those choosing to go down that rabbit hole.

BTW, I am not a fan of Hackintoshes.
 
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I don’t see the point of Hackintosh from a business perspective. You know Apple going to shut it down.

If it’s a hobby, that’s fine.
Frankly if you want to get into MacOS there’s a nice little machine called a Mac mini for around $1K

If you want to game, buy a cheap PC.
 
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matrixv said:
Hackintoshers are going to Hackintosh regardless of Apple's blessing.
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True, but the process is not something that just anyone (or most anyone) will do, so Apple's exposure is relatively limited. If you have companies doing the "hard work" and offering pre-built and pre-configured systems (and if those companies then provide ongoing support), that dramatically lowers the "barrier to entry" and makes such machines a more viable option for non-technical end-users.

I expect Apple will soon just tie future versions of macOS to the T-series SoC (the iMac is said to be getting it with the next refresh so the entire product line will now have it) to prevent macOS from running on non-Apple hardware.
 
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