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Gotta love companies who knowingly violate legal agreements. Wouldn't get a penny of my money. No amount of mental/logical gymnastics can get around this plain fact.
 
You completely missed the point yet again... LOL

I wasn't referring to "this" company buying macOS, but rather end users. I also did not say Apple would offer any support whatsoever to said end users. You clearly see what you want to see when you read things.

Apple wouldn't stand to lose any money if they offered to sell macOS for say $200 and provided zero support.

You must be thinking Apple would sell less machines, thus losing money. I seriously doubt that. Hackintoshers are going to Hackintosh regardless of Apple's blessing. At least this way Apple is making some money off those choosing to go down that rabbit hole.

BTW, I am not a fan of Hackintoshes.
But to sell a copy means you have to support it, Apple loses in this scenario.
 
Gotta love companies who knowingly violate legal agreements. Wouldn't get a penny of my money. No amount of mental/logical gymnastics can get around this plain fact.

Forget the EULA. How is this not blatant copyright infringement?
 
Power Computing was ahead of its time.

Instead of learning "address multiple price points and be agile with updates", Apple learned "hold your tech stack closely and make mostly premium products".

Power Computing would sell you a top-end Mac at a competitive price point and update their offerings regularly.

Apple sells you a Mac Pro that's trounced by AMD offerings that sell at half of Apple's starting price. Or an iMac Pro that's been ignored for 2 years. Or a keyboard that didn't work for 4 years. Or a MacBook Air without a Retina display for nearly 5 years. Or an $1100 phone with a notch. Or a $700 phone from 2 years ago based on a design from 6 years ago. Etc.
Power Computing Power/120 was the biggest lemon ever. They created it to serve a low end price point and halted our migration to PowerComputing as we were returning a ton of them. We got a few of the high-end model which the designers loved but CFO killed the whole project. CDW rep told us they would stop taking returns on them. CDW!!! A company that swapped out toner if a user complained towards the end of it's life!!! (note: we gave them too much business for it to matter, they received calls from us at 2 am and the sales team would deliver it themselves).
 
It was great when Apple was on life support and 1% market share.
Because they actually felt the need to be competitively innovative(?) Sliding downhill was when the original iMac was born. And, as an owner of a Bondi Blue beauty, I'll make a reminder... Apple went all-in on USB, which was not commonplace and very tough on the consumer transition front but eventually very worthwhile.
 
Apple can complain all they want, but Hackintosh has got them so many customers & is the only reason I am in the Apple ecosystem

When I decided to try out OSX, instead of doing it by violating the licensing agreement, I simply bought a used Mac on eBay. Not sure why this is so difficult. You know very well that many others are not moving to Macs and are just plugging along using their Hackintosh, which means Apple is losing all those sales. But even if they all were converting, that doesn't justify the initial dishonesty (whether done in ignorance or in full knowledge). No one has a right to use their operating system. It consistently amazes me how often otherwise respectable people try to justify dishonesty. I know none of us are saints, but I can at least respect people who own up to their behavior when confronted instead of trying to justify it.
 
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It's 2020! What Apps are you running that are not 64-bit? :)

Dude! Developers have been compiling their programs with the 32-bit checkbox until a couple years ago. Just long enough to no longer be in active development. All for one friggin' year - 2006 - a single Mac model that used a 32-bit Intel processor. And developers have been keeping compatible with that ever since. :(. Even Apple's own apps were largely 32-bit until about a year ago.

For me it's about 90% of the software I care about. Of course, the big expensive ones still in development are fine.
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I can't believe they found a way to make MacOS work on an AMD CPU! Amazing! :)
 
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Apple can complain all they want, but Hackintosh has got them so many customers & is the only reason I am in the Apple ecosystem

Only true for the DIY Hackintoshes. Once a company starts this the luser will expect Apple to support it. Don't think so? Just look at the people bitching about 32-bit! Apple announced it's death 6 to 8 years ago and still!!!
 
It's 2020! What Apps are you running that are not 64-bit? :)
Some people use older apps or apps where the developers can't be bothered to make it 64-bit. One of the biggest examples is Audacity, which I believe only recently switched over to 64-bit on Macs.
 
Sadly, it looks like the pricing's a scam, and it's not actually much cheaper than Apple. That "base price" has nothing but a CPU - yet to purchase it requires you to get at least one of DRAM/GPU/SSD/sundries, with a real starting price at least a grand higher.
 
I don't know if the restriction to only allow macOS to be installed on Macs can be justified as anything other than "so that we can sell more Macs" anymore. There was a time when you could get low end, mid range, and high end Macs and the price was on-par with PCs, so it was sort of justified. But now you can only get high-end or ultra high-end Macs, certainly not something the average person can afford. A computer should not be a luxury item, and if you're poor you should still be able to buy one. Having Windows as your only reasonable option is pretty sad. Even underpowered Macs like the Mac Mini or the MacBook Air are priced so high that it makes no sense other than as a fashion item. Buying them used because "Macs hold their value" doesn't make sense anymore due to all used Macbooks having a butterfly keyboard or just generally being impossible to repair or upgrade. Basically a freelancer who may or may not have income any given month but requires professional equipment can hardly justify a Mac anymore, when it used to be the go-to for creative freelancers.

The Robin Hood defense won’t stand up in a court of law. No one is forced to buy a Mac and Apple can sell them for whatever they think the free market will bear. If people are still buying Macs at the current prices, then Apple has every right to sell them at that price and not be harassed about it.
 
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Dude! Developers have been compiling their programs with the 32-bit checkbox until a couple years ago. Just long enough to no longer be in active development. All for one friggin' year - 2006 - a single Mac model that used a 32-bit Intel processor. And developers have been keeping compatible with that ever since. :(. Even Apple's own apps were largely 32-bit until about a year ago.

For me it's about 90% of the software I care about. Of course, the big expensive ones still in development are fine.
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I can't believe they found a way to make MacOS work on an AMD CPU! Amazing! :)

The death of 32-bit was announced about 8 years ago.
 
Just look at the people bitching about 32-bit! Apple announced it's death 6 to 8 years ago and still!!!

Because we cannot recompile the apps into 64-bits - we're not the original developers, and it's completely callous of Apple - they can just provide us an emulator like they are already using under the hood to run them. Or an OpenGL driver for virtual machines so we can run them in a virtual machine.

And that wasn't 6-8 years ago. They warned in Mojave - and that's when even they slowly began to port their software. Notice even Apple's Apps like Finder were 32-bits all the way up to Mojave. Only a few modern apps in active development are 64-bits, like MS Office 2016/2019, Affinity Photo, etc.

But yes - I'd've given anything for the *DEVELOPERS* to have stopped making 32-bit apps years ago - but nothing I can control. Some of us have hundreds of programs we use, not 5. For all I know, until recently, Apple forced developers to use the 32-bit compile.

Should've stuck with fat binaries back in 2006 - or better yet - just delayed one year the switch to Intel and *NEVER* have supported 32-bits.

But there's one silver lining - with all the old programs gone, it will cost me nothing to switch to ARM Macs.
 
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The Robin Hood defense won’t stand up in a court of law. No one is forced to buy a Mac and Apple can sell them for whatever they think the free market will bear. If people are still buying Macs at the current prices, then Apple has every right to sell them at that price and not be harassed about it.

This is like the people who cheat PayPal by abusing the Friend and Family option to avoid transaction fees when they are selling goods. I even had one guy tell me with a straight face that after a few phone calls with the buyer, he considered him a "friend" LOL! And of course that's not even the point. The point is he's not just sending him money - he's exchanging goods for it. Others will cite various grievances about atrocities PayPal has supposedly committed or how the fees are too high, etc. and so that supposedly justifies their dishonesty. As if using their service is a Constitutional right? smh....
 
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The death of 32-bit was announced about 8 years ago.
Mojave was released on September 24th, 2018 - that was when they warned people they wouldn't support 32-bits anymore. And even then, most developers I know didn't really believe them.

I don't have any idea why developers continued to release software that was 32-bit only for so long, but to act like it's only ancient software with this problem is being completely ignorant of the mac platform.
 
So does that mean that BMW has to sell cars at affordable prices? Aren’t people entitled to fine german engineering?

I'd say it's not quite the same thing, because there are plenty of other car brands out there, so car manufacturers get to specialize to capture just a specific demographic. If Apple is a strictly premium brand, the vast majority of people can only use one single operating system, and that's it. I think Apple has an unspoken responsibility to be an alternative to Windows, so that there can be at least two options, so in that sense I wish I could say that Apple doesn't "get to" target just the very rich, if they care about bringing their vision to the world and not just making money out of people who have a ton of money.

Sure, Apple has always been a premium brand but despite that, they have always had entry-level products. The iPod shuffle, the original Mac Mini, the original white plastic MacBook, etc... These were all pretty affordable and definitely not strictly for rich people. Oh, and their high end products weren't as expensive as they are today. The original Mac Pro was priced much lower than the current Mac Pro, and even the iMac Pro which is supposed to be the "pro" but not "I'm a whole production company" level desktop.

Add to this that computers used to get cheaper and cheaper every year thanks to Moore's law... it doesn't really add up. Apple is doing what high end fashion brands are doing, except fashion is not something you need, it's a status symbol. I think computers should strictly remain tools and I hate how Apple is taking advantage of their fashion symbol status. Sure, you don't strictly need a Mac but there may be workflows, applications, and habits that make your life easier if you continue to use the system you've been using for decades, and Apple is taking advantage of this. They no longer need to make good value for money, and they know it.
 
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Mojave was released on September 24th, 2018 - that was when they warned people they wouldn't support 32-bits anymore. And even then, most developers I know didn't really believe them.

I don't have any idea why developers continued to release software that was 32-bit only for so long, but to act like it's only ancient software with this problem is being completely ignorant of the mac platform.

Main point is I'm not defending the developers who did this. But there's nothing we as users can do about it, and it afflicted like 90% of all Mac software until a year or so ago. No software that's been out of development for a year can be revived - the cost would be as bad as porting to a new platform.

Apple should at the very least allow third parties to write emulators for them until suitable new software can take their places.
 
Article updated with statement from OpenCore Bootloader.

We at Acidanthera are a small group of enthusiasts who are passionate about Apple ecosystem and spend time developing software to improve macOS compatibility with different kinds of hardware including older Apple-made computers and virtual machines. For us, who do this on entirely volunteer and uncommercial basis, for fun, it is shocking and disgusting that some dishonest people we do not even know dare to use the name and logo of our bootloader, OpenCore, as a matter of promotion in some illicit criminal scam. Be warned, that we are nohow affiliated with these people and strongly ask everyone by all means to never approach them. Be safe.
 
in before ARM …

Yep. I believe that when the Apple computers are switched to ARM, Apple will be releasing a new operating system that will run on both iOS devices and ARM based Mac computers.
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Why can't Apple make a normal desktop around $3000? It shouldn't be a problem.

Apples only goal is to make the shareholders happy.

A normal $3000 desktop would make many users happy but Apple has apparently decided that it is not a good idea for the finances of the company (i.e. Apple is there to make money).
 
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