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Opera 10.50 Beta for Mac Released, Performs Well in JavaScript Benchmarks
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What you are seeing there is bad UI sniffing. They see Opera so they assume its the mobile version and serve you the mobile page. This is doubly useless as even the mobile versions of Opera and even Opera Mini have no problems rendering regular sites and have no need for mobile sites whatsoever.
The problem here lies with the person designing the site, not with Opera.
This Webkit only line of thinking is the same line of thinking is very short sighted. There should be different rendering engines, lest the same thing happens as with IE6 and Trident.
Well I use Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Camino & Opera... probably in just about that order as regards usage. IMO, all have their pros & cons.
For anyone running Opera 10.10 who's thinking of playing around with 10.50 beta, make sure you first back up Opera 10.10. I couldn't import any of my bookmarks from 10.10 into 10.50 beta. Have now gone back to 10.10 via my back-up & won't be touching 10.50 again until it's completed.
For anyone running Opera 10.10 who's thinking of playing around with 10.50 beta, make sure you first back up Opera 10.10. I couldn't import any of my bookmarks from 10.10 into 10.50 beta. Have now gone back to 10.10 via my back-up & won't be touching 10.50 again until it's completed.
There is no need or place for Opera .
While competition is good, we already have four main browsers.
Explorer, FireFox, Safari, and Chrome.
It used to be just Explorer.
I am not sure who is behind Opera, why are they still pushing the software, and how do they profit.
While competition is good, we already have four main browsers.
Explorer, FireFox, Safari, and Chrome.
It used to be just Explorer.
I am not sure who is behind Opera, why are they still pushing the software, and how do they profit.
opera rendering lackluster at best
This looks awful when rendered in opera.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1001q3f8hhr/event/index.html
This looks awful when rendered in opera.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1001q3f8hhr/event/index.html
Opera has been around since 1994, so why drop the product if its been successful enough to warrant continuing - its not as though Opera is joining the 'browser party'. Opera is also the most popular mobile browser. Personally, I think the desktop browser sucks ( horrid GUI ) , while the mobile browsers are great.
How they make their revenue:
"With version 8.5 (released in 2005) the advertisements were removed entirely and primary financial support for the browser came through revenue from Google (which is by contract Opera's default search engine).[15]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)
This page works fine in the most recent Opera 10.10... no different than Safari.
The current stable version ( 10.10 ) of Opera has good rendering. Since 10.5 a beta version, no one should be surprised if things don't quite work right.
I realize this is a beta version, so its unfinished, work in progress, so I'm not going to make any judgements until the final product is out the door.
I disagree strongly.
Firefox with all its extensions is becoming slower, outworn and pent-up by the day (an opinion shared amongst most of the tech-savy people I know), Explorer is just... Well, Explorer. I use both a Mac and a PC on regular basis, I want a common synced browser on both, so Safari is out of question. And Chrome... Well that's personal, but I have an issue with giving one single company control over EVERYTHING I do in the virtual world. And I don't get Chrome's phenomenon either, it's UI is a copy-paste from Opera and super-duper speed results mostly faked.
So among "big" browsers, Opera is pretty much the only option for me.
10.5 is a gigantic update, but as some people pointed out earlier, it's clearly not ready for a beta stage jet.
I thought it looked nice so i tried it. It's slow and i had crashes within three pages. Not worth trying. I'll stick with (in order) Safari, Camino, Firefox, Chrome.
I love the "Private tab" idea. (No, not for that.)
Seems snappy. Like the UI. I'll use it for the next few days.
Seems snappy. Like the UI. I'll use it for the next few days.
*sigh*
Take a look at safari, in fact take a look at every major browser. Most of those things we take for granted (say, tabs) everyday we have them thanks to Opera.
I'm not even using Opera (Chrome won me over) but I have an enormous level of respect for them.
This is alpha, not beta material....maybe they mislabeled it as beta. Too many crashes, video links not working, preference pane glitch.
It's really telling when some people on this forum blindly bash all things nonApple, especially things done in a nonApple way. Apple isn't always right, one size doesn't fit all.
It's even more telling when someone obviously knows zilch about web browsers.
I personally like Opera. I used the alpha version of this and now the beta. It's definitely not ready to go public yet, but it's getting there (I file a few bugs every day). It's got a solid back end and a much nicer community than Apple's and it's not run by an advertising company like Google.
Exactly. Who in their right mind would allow an advertisement company to handle their email or documents?
I've always used opera, but I'm really glad that Javascript performance has increased. That was the Achilles heel.
I always see some reviews talking about how fast a newest Opera is, when there is a new beta version available. I believed them every time and tried those beta versions. But almost all of them were glitchy and slow. So I decide I'd better ignore any new reviews on a beta version. I think they shouldn't release a buggy beta to public, since many people are not familiar with this browser and want to find out how good it is. If you can put down your opinions on how terrible the UI looks like, the stable version 10.1 isn't that bad.
Opera has been my default browser for a long time. I haven't tried this release, (10.50), as I will wait until it is officially released out of Beta. But 10.10 is great. I have never understood why so many people bash Opera.
Many of the innovations that are common in most browsers today came from Opera in the first place. As far as I am aware, it is still the only browser that allows keyboard navigation around a webpage. No mouse required for anything. For keyboard junkies this is a major plus.
I still have safari and firefox installed, but use them less than 10% of the time. Opera isn't perfect, but it is pretty good. Choice though, is king so having a selection of browsers to choose from is obviously the best route.
It's pretty clear that you don't know anything about Opera's history, because if you did, you'd know that Opera pretty much invented every feature that we take for granted in modern browsers. Hell, Opera had Tabs in 2000 or thereabouts.
They are saying that that's only temporary. PPC support is coming.
Did you even pay attention to what the site does? It sends Opera to a mobile site for some reason. That doesn't mean that Opera doesn't render the site. It means that the site detects Opera and redirects it somewhere else.
Just open the desktop page directly and try again:
http://idesign.net/idesign/DesktopDefault.aspx
Opera has been around much longer than WebKit. It's also the browser of choice for device manufacturers and mobile network operators, and is growing quickly on desktop as well, now that it's free and without ads.
It's interesting that Mac users are whining about Opera not being needed. Is Apple not needed either because Macs have such an abysmal market share?
Also, where would Apple steal all new Safari features from if Opera didn't exist, such as Top Sites?
Yet another Apple fan bashing another product for not having 30-40% market share. You must be saying that there's no need or place for Apple or Macs, After all, we already have Windows!
Who's behind Apple? Why are they still pushing the hardware and software? How do they profit?
If you really want to know how Opera makes money, why don't you just look it up in Wikipedia or something?
Never mind the fact that Opera has, what, 30% market share in the mobile phone browser market?
I read that Opera has finally got color management.
This was so necessary!
The lack of color management was the reason I stopped using it.
I read you need an add-on called "songbird" to enable color management. I find this quite weird. Why not have it manage colors right out of the box? Even Firefox has gotten rid of that weird setting where color management was disabled, and you had to switch it on yourself.
Safari has had color management for a long time.
This was so necessary!
The lack of color management was the reason I stopped using it.
I read you need an add-on called "songbird" to enable color management. I find this quite weird. Why not have it manage colors right out of the box? Even Firefox has gotten rid of that weird setting where color management was disabled, and you had to switch it on yourself.
Safari has had color management for a long time.
Its called "Fanboy Attack". Unless Jobs blesses Opera it will be damned for ever in doom.
Opera is more than a browser and faster(even in beta) than every other browser with this new edition. These are facts, not opinions.