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Maybe. But a bigger problem is that consolidation has slowed down innovation a bit as well. There are only a few companies capable of building this cutting edge tech. It’s going to have to either come from Samsung or Apple. I don’t see Intel, Microsoft, Google, or especially OnePlus really having the vision and dedication to change that.

Not to bring up the old “if Jobs were still around” trope but I do have to wonder how things would be. He seemed to be the only tech CEO (besides maybe Zuckerberg) that never got bored with his company. Every company (except maybe Intel since they are the oldest) I mentioned above had its founder leave to spend more time with their money a long time ago. Cook is definitely dedicated but I wonder about his vision.
One thing beyond the availability of technology to produce things like a viable folding screen phone, is asking whether it’s addressing a need that is greater than the tradeoffs that will be caused by implementing a technology. Folding feature phones were all the rage back in the day, but the common failure point of the hinge helped speed their demise.

And back then, people were using their phones a fraction of the time that they are today. So as much as the hinge mechanism has been improved, it’s still a significant failure point and when coupled with the screen and the failures a folding screen faces, it’s two main elements of the device that face early failure.

We’re supposed to learn from the past, but it feels like there is a group of young designers, engineers, even consumers who don’t know we’ve tried many of these things in the past and there are reasons things didn’t live on into the future. It’s that or the fact that development of smart phones is starting to slow to the point of companies having to pitch half-baked ideas in the hopes of capturing the public’s attention long enough to hopefully solve some of the unresolved issues.
 
I see this going the way of 3D TVs—just a fad. Too bulky/thick when closed and the plasticky screen with a crease gives a cheapened experience for a very expensive device. Plus, it’s a not an iPhone (dead in the water). Maybe it can be revisited if new technologies are introduced, like graphene batteries and other yet conceived ideas.
 
If folding it means it's twice as thick in my pocket I have no interest. Text me when devices are as thin and as foldable as a piece of paper.
 
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Chinese consumer electronics maker Oppo says that innovation in the smartphone industry has "hit a wall" and that people are asking, "What's next for smartphones?" In an answer to that question, the maker teased its first-ever foldable smartphone named "Find N."

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In a press release, Oppo's chief product officer, Pete Lau, said that following "four years of intense R&D and six generations of prototypes," Oppo is ready to reveal its first foldable smartphone.

Foldable smartphones have grown in popularity over the years, with Samsung being one of the earliest adopters of the new smartphone trend. According to Lau, foldable smartphones have yet to become a mainstream hit due to many factors, including concerns over durability, software utilization, and more, and that Oppo wanted to change that.
Lau added that beyond 5G, faster charging, higher refresh rates, improved cameras, and more, "smartphone development has reached a limit" and that "new ways of thinking and new approaches to continue innovating" are needed.


The name "Find N," according to Lau, represents "new possibilities" and ushers in "the next chapter of smartphones." The press release, which serves as a mere teaser of the device, includes one image, while a tweet by Oppo offers a clearer look at the device. Find N will launch on December 15.

Apple is poised to join the foldable smartphone market in the future. Still, a device of that nature remains several years away as Apple tends to wait until technologies are more mature for mainstream use before unveiling a product.

Article Link: Oppo Says Smartphone Innovation Has 'Hit a Wall' As It Teases First Foldable Device
Manufacturers need to realize that foldable phones will never really be a mainstream thing. Even if they get the screens perfect such that you can’t see any crease at all. Even if they get them so durable that they last as long as a conventional phone. The fact remains that a folding phone is of little use to most people. Having to unfold the phone every time you take it out of a pocket or purse is just going to be annoying. And having it be twice as thick as it would otherwise be is going to make it less “pocketable” for most people. Yes, there will be a few users who actually need the potentially larger screen area afforded by a screen that can fold, but it will always be a niche product.
 
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If I really wanted a foldable phone, I'd be a flip phone from back in the day. Sorry, but I feel as though foldable phones are gimmicks, just like 3D TV's were.
 
How is a foldable phone useful? A fat square block lost in the bottom of your pocket is way harder to handle than a flat thin rectangle. and then fiddling around to open it? There’s no upside. It’s just a gimmick that gets you slighty more useless screen real estate.
 
I'm sure Apple is working on a variant like this as well. I agree that it's hard to innovate in the smartphone space as the market is saturated, the last cool thing we got is FaceID 5 years ago
 
Foldables are a solution in search of a problem.
FaceID was a “solution” in search of a problem. And apple has stubbornly stuck with it even while it’s been useless ever since pandemic

The great news about these foldable phones is that no one is forced to buy them. There are other Android phones out there from the same manufacturer.


Want an iPhone? Tough luck you can’t get one with a finger print scanner.
 
Foldable phones are too thick at the moment. I'd consider one if it was as thick as an iPhone when folded.
 
If I had to get a foldable phone right now I would want something that takes the approach of the Surface Duo. I just don't trust the durability of plastic screens being creased multiple times a day.
 
This lack of innovation trope is so lazy.

If you think about any major new product Apple has introduced iPhone

There wasn't really anything particularly innovative about the technology behind the first iPhone though. The LG Prada, which launched in May 2007 had a capacitive touchscreen and was likely in development in tandem with the original iPhone, unbeknownst to the engineers at LG. Also there were 3G phones and phones with much better cameras. The biggest thing was Steve Jobs getting Corning to design and build Gorilla Glass in the space of 6 months after early prototypes used plastic (Read 'The One Device')

Apple's biggest innovation was in software implementation. Pinch-to-Zoom, the keyboard, auto-rotation, lag-free scrolling; this was all possible because of superior software. This also applies to Apple's launch of the App Store in 2008 which was much better than any competing platform at the time.

Smartphone software innovation has slown to a crawl though. All Apple and Google have done for the last 8 years is pick apart the rotting corpses of Palm's WebOS and Windows Phone 7 (Hello, flat design!)

Since then smartphones have stagnated. iOS 15 is just iOS 7 with a few bells and whistles. When the iPhone 6 launched all Apple did was stretch the OS to fit the larger screen and so it has remained for the last 7 generations. There has been no attempt to rebuild iOS for the dominant large screen sizes on the market. There should, for example be zero user interactions outside of the bottom third of the screen so that devices can be used one-handed. Apple still has icons float to the top of the screen on the home and the 'back' links in the top-left corner! The fudge of reachability doesn't count. This is just a patch.

For the record I can level all of the above complaints at Google and Android as well. They have made no effort to redesign user interaction with phones any more than Apple have. The only company to have come close is Samsung who at least acknowledged their users don't have the digits of ET but this isn't enough.

We can't talk innovation until the software properly evolved from the ground-up on any mobile platform.

This isn't just the iPhone. The Apple Watch has been stagnating for years now too. Offer all the hardware you want Apple but that app menu is an absolute mess, the marketplace a joke and interactions tired.
 
Hey look, a shameless copy of another phone from a phone manufacturer that literally exists to copy other phone manufacturers!

Aside from that, current foldable phones are garbage. Far too many compromises and weaknesses. The tech just isn’t ready yet. Give it another 5+ (more like 10) years, and it might be good enough to not be an expensive, cumbersome gimmick.
All companies copy and copying helps the tech world go forward.

current foldables aren’t garbage really. They have weaknesses yes but so do all phones. The iphone you have now has plenty of weaknesses. The tech wasn’t ready as a daily two years ago but now and going forward is a good time to use a foldable. Each year it’s getting more refined.
 
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Only time a foldable smartphone will be a thing is when it passes Apple's design standards.

Same reason why OLEDs took almost a decade before debuting on the 2017 iPhone X. It had to meet Apple's stringent standards.

A problem I see with a foldable iPhone with a screen size equivalent to two iPhones stitched together is the price.

So that's two $1,099 iPhone Pro Max.
Apple are just so damn slow at bringing out new tech. We like to make excuses for them as we enjoy their products but even when they wait it’s not always better than the comp. Look at the ultra wide lens. A new lens but still worse than the comp out there.
 
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So you never know what will happen next, but this seems like its maybe not "the next big thing" ?
 
As a cynic that's how you see it. As someone who understands product dev and experienced OLED burn in from a 2015 Google Nexus 6P I perfectly understand why Apple took that long.

Why be 1st to market with an immature tech that will only cause bad press becase oLeD BuRn-iN aPplE recall

I am sorry. OLED on iPhone still subject to burn in. Literally burn in is not excuses of not bring OLED to iPhone.
 
The ability for my phone to fold is obviously the innovation I’ve been craving.

I can’t wait until my Apple Watch and iMac have the ability to fold as well, it’ll be such a time to be alive. /S
 
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Notch serves a purpose though.

Sure but it’s far more noticeable than a crease which isn’t really noticeable unless it’s under certain lighting conditions. I think some kind of crease will always be there for the short term future. Not sure it’s possible given it folds.
 
will wait for the foldable iPad Pro that is 20 inches unfolded. I'm getting an iPhone mini next year and would prefer to have it even smaller.
 
Only time a foldable smartphone will be a thing is when it passes Apple's design standards.

Same reason why OLEDs took almost a decade before debuting on the 2017 iPhone X. It had to meet Apple's stringent standards.

A problem I see with a foldable iPhone with a screen size equivalent to two iPhones stitched together is the price.

So that's two $1,099 iPhone Pro Max.

Apple will release a foldable phone when it passes their standards for profit margins.

Apple is absolutely ready to compromise on screen quality. They did it with PWM. They did it with jelly scrolling. They did it with the response time of the new MBP.
 
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... opening the hinge felt unpleasant (a huge difference from the ultra-satisfying flip and slider phones of old) ...
That be a hard pass for me. The main reason I'd want a foldable phone would be for nostalgic reasons. Miss ending a phone call by closing it, for some reason that motion is super satisfying lol
 
A lot of haters on here but truth be told this could be what the foldable iPhone will look like. Rounded edges but probably no crease. I actually really like the way this looks.
I highly doubt that we will ever see a folding iPhone.
Apple has worked on all sorts of things that have never happened.
Between 2009 and 2011 there were basically endless rumors that they were working on an iPhone Nano. Recent emails have been released that show that that product was a real thing they were working on. Did it ever launch? No, of course not.
In 2011-2013, investors and leakers all alike we’re absolutely certain that within that three-year timeframe, Apple would launch a 60+ inch television set. It never happened.
Same with the touchscreen iMac that Apple filed patents for all the way back in 2010, and the E-ink powered MacBook keyboard.
So far, all we have is that Apple internally has folding phones, and if they launch it will be sometime between 2023 and 2025.
That’s about it.
Back in 2017, we were also told that by 2020 the iPhone would have no notch and an under display fingerprint sensor. It’s almost 2022, and neither of those things has happened.
Back in 2012–2013, there were things like the Fitbit and the galaxy gear or whatever it was called, and these things were popular. They were starting to catch on. It made sense for Apple to jump into that market.
So far, it’s been three years or so since Samsung introduced the galaxy fold, and several other manufacturers have released folding phones, and they just have not caught on. Other than the tech community, most people just aren’t interested in them.
I think Apple knows that.
 
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