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The challenge with Android vendors are all part of the same network and sandbox. Apple is branded well for years and they are playing in their own sandbox. Unfortunately, Oppo is not branded and doesn't have the market of an Apple to appeal to buyers. It's either lower cost phone to attract buyers or their phones are too expensive people won't buy them. That's all part of customer retention and branding.
 
Also, if Apple is really getting ready to release AR glasses next year, then there’s absolutely no need for a folding phone because with the glasses, you can make a virtual phone as big as you want it.
In my opinion, that’s a lot more impressive than getting a slab of plastici glass to bend.
That’s the “next big thing,” even if I’m still very skeptical about it.
 
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Foldable seems an answer to a question not asked.

I personally would prefer a thinner smaller display that I can stick in my pocket than a bigger heavier 2x as thick one prone to crease or hinge fatigue failure somewhere down the line.
 
If I were to want a foldable smartphone for some insane reason, it would be to get a more one handable small phone that turns into a normal sized device. Not a phablet that turns into a newspaper. If there is any legs in this foldable phone space, it’s in making smaller phones bigger when they need to be.
That goes for normal phones too. All thse 6+ inch monstrous sized phones are a joke. Can we get more flagship phones that are made for NORMAL hands? Jesus christ, anything over 5.8inch in size forces you to do hand gymnastics trying to reach ANYTHING on the screen... that and it being a giant brick in your pocket. I swear, anyone sporting that big of a phone in their pocket looks idiotic.
 
Still a solution in search of a problem. I honestly don't need my phone to be anything other than a normal bar design, it works for a reason.
 
With people's frequency of taking out their phones for browsing and typing, a foldable phone will just introduce another step before people can start to use it. All that folding out will get tiresome after the first ten minutes of novelty.
theres an OUTSIDE screen on it too..
 
Sorry, but I don't want a crease running through the middle of my display.

“With the Find N, we have solved the main pain points in previous foldable smartphones, such as the crease in the display and overall durability of the device, by inventing perhaps the best hinge and display designs available today”

That’s buried in the article, by the way.
 
I am sorry. OLED on iPhone still subject to burn in. Literally burn in is not excuses of not bring OLED to iPhone.
Not the degree or extent of other smartphones. Each generation of tech improves from the previous and Apple waited nearly a decade for OLED to be mature enough by Apple's standards.
 
Apple are just so damn slow at bringing out new tech. We like to make excuses for them as we enjoy their products but even when they wait it’s not always better than the comp. Look at the ultra wide lens. A new lens but still worse than the comp out there.
Quantify and compare what is better. ;)
 
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No - I think you are missing my point! :)

There is inevitably a compromise. If you can make a phone weighing, say, 180 grams with a folding screen, how much less can you make it with a simple flat screen? However light the folding one, a non-folding one could be lighter.

Z Flip3 – 183 g
Z Fold 3 – 271 g
S21+ – 200 g (despite large screen)

As far as I am concerned, unless it also has an external screen, such that you can see date, time, how many messages/emails, most recent alert(s), without opening it, forget folding. Though I do realise that if you have a smart watch of some sort, you might already have all that.
The galaxy fold for example does have an outside screen.. that’s the concept we are discussing. The outside screen is like using it as a normal phone.

Seperatly yes it will weigh more, but two things; it should weigh less than the weight of a phone and tablet combined, and when has weight really been an issue?
 
I've got no problem with a foldable phone but I do if the folded form factor has it twice the thickness of today's phones. They're big enough as it is for pockets and doubling the volume is a non-starter.
 
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The solution to a foldable phone is two standard screens with an ultra precise hinge, not a flexible screen folded in two. IMO.
 
Not the degree or extent of other smartphones. Each generation of tech improves from the previous and Apple waited nearly a decade for OLED to be mature enough by Apple's standards.

Do you have any statistics back up your claim? To be honest, I have Nexus 6, Pixel 2A, Pixel 4A. None of them show any burn in.

You can argue both way. If no one be the first, we will never seen phones with OLED screen. It is possible that Apple waited long enough for OLED technology mature. You can also argue that Apple just hold the feature as long as possible and trying to entice upgrade.
 
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Lots of ideas exist for years, languishing until technology is mature/developed enough to make them viable. And if they become viable then they just might become commonplace if presented properly.

Innovation isn’t just new ideas. It’s making new ideas actually work reliably and in a practical manner.
 
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The galaxy fold for example does have an outside screen.. that’s the concept we are discussing. The outside screen is like using it as a normal phone.

Seperatly yes it will weigh more, but two things; it should weigh less than the weight of a phone and tablet combined, and when has weight really been an issue?
I certainly noticed the increase from my old 6S (143 g) to my current 12 Pro (189 g). And every time there is a new phone launch, there are many posts complaining if the new models are heavier, or even if they are not lighter!

When I am out and about and want to take or make a call, or quickly check a message, or whatever, the lightest, thinnest smallest that does what I want is preferable.

When I stop for a coffee, I am perfectly happy to use a heavier device which I have been carrying in a pocket or bag. And an iPad mini 6 isn't that much more (297 g) than a Z Fold 3.
 
Other than "folding" will this phone do anything different, smarter, or, easier than a (less expensive) non-folding phone?
 
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Smartphone innovation has hit a wall since iPhone 1. And it's not just the hardware or software innovation having stalled, there is an actual regression in many things. Bloat has increased, privacy has hit rock bottom, I am not even allowed to change the battery of my phone or use it the way I want without me being considered a criminal. I couldn't care less if the camera is 200 megapixels or the display resolution is 8k; I am not a professional photographer and I do not have to use my smartphone to make money on social networks by influencing weak people. All I care is why on earth is it so difficult to take a note with my S Pen on the (now) unnecessarily narrow and curved Samsung Galaxy Note, why do I need to unfold my foldable Oppo phone every time I use it and why do I have to hurt my eyes and brain every time I look at my iPhone's notch.
Your suffering is duly noted.
 
Not to mention it may eat into iPad sales.

I had a multiple Ericson and Sony-Ericssson 2G feature phones that were foldable. The hinge always broke down.

That's why i prefer the candybar-form factor for the past 2 decades. 1 less thing to break
Apple is not worried about cannibalizing their own sales. They’ve done it a few times.
 
That be a hard pass for me. The main reason I'd want a foldable phone would be for nostalgic reasons. Miss ending a phone call by closing it, for some reason that motion is super satisfying lol
I have an old LG slider Tracphone phone on my nostalgic technology shelf next to an Apple II modem, puck mouse, 1996 digital camera, and some flash cubes.

I picked it up, and it feels genuinely pleasant to snap it open and closed. The phone was low-end even when it was brand new, and the keypad is mushy and awful, but the open-close mechanism feels so nice you just want to hold it and play with it like a fidget spinner or something. That thumb-flip snap on a good flip phone had that same kind of satisfying tactility to it.

Any modern flip or fold phone that doesn't have that same satisfying feel to it is a failure out of the gate, no matter how good everything else is. The fact that you actually have to use both hands to open most (all?) current foldable phones is an embarrassment, particularly for the flip-style ones.
 
Ironically, the majority of you dissing the foldable technology likely have never held, touched or used a foldable phone such as the Fold 3. The complaint about the crease is irrelevant, once I started using my Fold within minutes I lost track of the crease literally 100% and never see it while using the phone. I loved the Fold 2 so much I purchased the Fold 3 and the screen is not at all plastic feeling. In fact I can almost not differentiate it from a Victus type glass experience. When it is open it is incredibly thin and yes when it is folded it's a little thicker but not unreasonable. I will never go back to a candy bar, blah blah blah boring slab again. Do your self a favor and try one if you get a chance...I can promise you that if you appreciate something that is leading edge then this tech is it. I know it's not for everyone but I bet 7 out of 10 of you who used this phone for a week or two would find it VERY hard going back.
 
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