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But how they are passing the 240watts though type C which is maxed out at 100 watts as far as i know?

Whatever, this is awesome. This is not something everyone would need everyday, but imagine charging could be 9min, almost like going to a gas station filling up your car too full tank and leave, instead being tide to for hrs.

I just hope this is very very very safe, 240 watt is not a joke, imagine a kid playing games while charging. One insident and it could be major set-back for every company.

Apple, 2hrs to full charge is way too much, its about time now.
 
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I find it laughable when people are talking about “battery lifespan”. When my iPhone 12 pro just reached 81% health after just over one year of usage.

No, let me have the fast charging please. Don’t defend it with battery lifespan nonsense.
 
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I never understood fast charging but maybe it’s because I haven’t had a phone that dies in the middle of the day since the iPhone 6 Plus.
I guess it’s useful if you forget to charge it overnight but I think I’d rather carry a small battery pack with my instead of blasting my battery with 240 watts.

Still, an impressive accomplishment on the technical side!
The idea is you don’t need to charge your phone overnight.
It might sound small but it will change how you use smartphones. You will only plug in for a few minutes when you are out of juice. No more thinking of battery percentage.
 
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I guess my question is… why?
I get why fast charging is a thing. Having your phone go from 0 to 50% in 30 minutes is impressive and useful.
But The vast majority of consumers just charge their phone while they sleep, does it really need to balloon to 100% in nine minutes?
Having your phone at 100% already isn’t very good for it, most agree that best for the battery health are cycles between 80 and 20%.
That’s why the iPhone has features delaying the full charge of it until you’re about to get up and use the phone, to keep it from staying at 100% for too long.
There’s just no point.
And even if your phone doesn’t have the best battery and won’t last you for the full day, if you can’t step away from it for more than nine minutes I feel like that says more about you than it does the phone.
Plug it in, Watch a movie, take a shower, do literally anything else. The phone will still be there, all charged up when you’re done.
It’s different after you use it. Using 20w charger, you need to think about the battery percentage before you go out, plug in your phone before you go to sleep. With 100+W charging, you just don’t need to think about the battery percentage anymore, and you don’t need to plug it in before going to sleep. It changes how you use your smartphone, believe it or not.
When it is time to charge, you will see the notification, and plug it in for a few minutes.
 
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That's genuinely impressive, but unless they've got some serious magic going on inside the battery cells themselves, I would need to be pretty desperate to actually want to subject my phone to that.

Especially if people end up using this as their main charger, it's going to really do a number on the battery.
 
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Wow! That’s pretty impressive. The impact on the battery life doesn't seem too good tho. I have a feeling it degrades the battery a lot faster too.
I would have some concerns about potential long-term battery health (and battery safety) issues. Unless they're switching to supercapacitors instead of lithium-based batteries, and I don't think the tech is there yet.

And, off-topic, but I'm curious - what is up with the giant wrinkled $100 bill in your current avatar? Not just what is it for, but why does a wrinkled one serve the purpose better than a (representation of) a shiny new flat one? Does it signify something that it's wrinkled?
 
I wish apple would hurry up, they are so slow on adding things, I don't wanna hear its bad for the batt, I want new tech now
Then by all means, switch to Oppos new phones with “supervooc”. You’ll then be vooc’d.

I wouldn’t be so worried about the batteries lifespan. I’d be more concerned about the battery exploding. Sending that much voltage into a lithium ion battery is just not safe.
 
Anyone who doubts the safety doesn’t use power tools much. This is a miniaturized version of those types of systems. I have yet to have a fire with Ryobi or Dewalt charging large 18v and 20v LiIon power packs in 30 min.
 
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But how they are passing the 240watts though type C which is maxed out at 100 watts as far as i know?

Whatever, this is awesome. This is not something everyone would need everyday, but imagine charging could be 9min, almost like going to a gas station filling up your car too full tank and leave, instead being tide to for hrs.

I just hope this is very very very safe, 240 watt is not a joke, imagine a kid playing games while charging. One insident and it could be major set-back for every company.

Apple, 2hrs to full charge is way too much, its about time now.

I guess you missed the update last year to 240W?
 
Why the obsession over fast charging? I use a standard old charger for my 13PM and it does just fine. I just cannot imagine that this doesn’t have an impact on battery health.

But this is the bigger news:

Air Glass extended reality monocle

A monocle? Is this a joke? The only person I’ve ever seen wear a monocle was Colonel Klink — and he was a FINK!
 
For sure impressive but I don’t care about fast charge, I even charge my MacBook Pro 14” with a slower but smaller usb-c changer. I never run out of battery on any device.
 
This seems like an instance of solving the wrong problem.

problem - I need to charge my phone more than once a day
solution - make a phone capable of charging to full charge in 15 minutes!

How much does this subsystem cost? for the 0.5% of users that want to charge their phone in 15 minutes regularly?
I agree with you 100%. I appreciate that Apple prioritizes all day battery charge and the battery’s longevity over fast-charging.

The best user experience is to never have to charge the device. Since it must be charged, design so that it only needs to charge while the user sleeps.

In other words, the only midday top off charge I want is the one that doesn’t exist. Even if a competitor released a phone that could charge from 0% to 100% in 10 seconds, I wouldn’t be interested.
 


Oppo has announced a record-breaking fast charging technology that is around twelve times faster than the iPhone 13 lineup.

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On the first day of 2022's Mobile World Congress (MWC) yesterday, Oppo showcased a range of technologies, including its latest Find X5 series of smartphones, the MariSilicon X custom image processor, a retractable camera system, the Air Glass extended reality monocle, and more. Among the announcements and spotlights, Oppo announced two new fast charging technologies.

The first, which Oppo calls "150W SUPERVOOC flash charge," features charge pumps and can charge a device with a 4,500 mAh battery to 50 percent in five minutes and deliver a full charge in just 15 minutes. 150W SUPERVOOC includes Oppo's Battery Health Engine, which recently debuted in the Find X5 lineup, to keep the battery at 80 percent of its original capacity after as many as 1,600 charge cycles – double the industry standard of just 800 cycles. Oppo will introduce 150W SUPERVOOC on selected OnePlus devices in the second quarter of 2022.

The company also revealed "240W SUPERVOOC flash charge" technology, which can charge a 4,500mAh battery to 100 percent in just nine minutes. 240W SUPERVOOC is the fastest-ever charging technology of its kind, surpassing Realme's 150W charging.



Oppo says that the 240W SUPERVOOC charging system contains five safety protection measures, including a custom-designed control chip that monitors voltage, current, and temperature, and conforms to standards for heat dissipation despite the very high power output. Oppo did not say when the first devices with 240W SUPERVOOC will be released.

Apple's iPhone 13 mini and iPhone 13 support wired 20W fast charging, while the iPhone 13 Pro is able to support up to 23W and the iPhone 13 Pro Max is able to support up to 27W. The iPhone 13 models do not sustain peak power for their entire charging cycle due to thermal considerations.

With a 20W power adapter and a Lightning to USB-C cable, users can charge an iPhone 13 from zero to 50 percent in half an hour, and fully charge in about two hours, which is significantly slower than either of Oppo's new charging technologies. Last week, Oppo announced plans to directly compete with Apple on a global scale with a wave of premium devices, starting with the Find X5 models.

Article Link: Oppo Unveils Record-Breaking Fast Charging Technology That's 12x Faster Than iPhone 13
Yeah, great. Just another Chinese (CCP) company to avoid.
 
But how they are passing the 240watts though type C which is maxed out at 100 watts as far as i know?

Whatever, this is awesome. This is not something everyone would need everyday, but imagine charging could be 9min, almost like going to a gas station filling up your car too full tank and leave, instead being tide to for hrs.

I just hope this is very very very safe, 240 watt is not a joke, imagine a kid playing games while charging. One insident and it could be major set-back for every company.

Apple, 2hrs to full charge is way too much, its about time now.
Wonder of the USB C cable is a proprietary design?
 
It’s different after you use it. Using 20w charger, you need to think about the battery percentage before you go out, plug in your phone before you go to sleep. With 100+W charging, you just don’t need to think about the battery percentage anymore, and you don’t need to plug it in before going to sleep. It changes how you use your smartphone, believe it or not.
When it is time to charge, you will see the notification, and plug it in for a few minutes.

Very true. Never gave it much thought.
My 13ProMax goes in the charging stand every night.
My 1+ 9 Pro I charge as needed.
 
I would have some concerns about potential long-term battery health (and battery safety) issues. Unless they're switching to supercapacitors instead of lithium-based batteries, and I don't think the tech is there yet.
Supercaps were my first thought too, but apparently this is charging the LiIon cell pack. It also seems to cause less temperature rise than other approaches which suggests less impact on battery health. I can't find much on what it's actually doing though.


I'd love more detail on how it works. Maybe there's a juicy link in the earlier pages of this thread that skimmed past...
 
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So many salty people here when the competitors launched a new cool feature that apple don’t have. They’ll be the first to get excited when apple announce the same thing.

I do t think it is salty, I think that there's genuine concern over the longevity and safety of the batteries.

When a battery explodes there's very little one can do to quickly extinguish it unless one has a class B fire extinguisher close to hand. That's a genuine concern to many folks.

Sometimes something that sounds too good to be true may be...

Well, ask Samsung.
 
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150W SUPERVOOC includes Oppo's Battery Health Engine, which recently debuted in the Find X5 lineup, to keep the battery at 80 percent of its original capacity after as many as 1,600 charge cycles – double the industry standard of just 800 cycles
Fast charging and long life span, from oppo. This doesn’t add up no matter how they put it, unless battery chemical structures are significantly different or sth.
 
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The idea is you don’t need to charge your phone overnight.
It might sound small but it will change how you use smartphones. You will only plug in for a few minutes when you are out of juice. No more thinking of battery percentage.
I don’t know, you’re right and all but I kinda like the idea that me and my phone are going to sleep at the same time
It’s still but it makes perfect sense for me to let a device recharge at the same time I do.

I swear, even when phones eventually go back to lasting days I will never lose the habit to charge overnight… it just makes so much sense to me.
(I also tend to keep my phone on my dock while I work, which I understand it’s not ideal because the optimal range is 20-80%, but I just got that mindset I can’t get rid of ?‍♂️
 
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