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Optical Image Stabilization May Be Differentiating Factor for 5.5-Inch iPhone 6 [Updated]
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That rumored new 4.7" unit, with (supposedly) only marginally larger dimensions than the iPhone5S, will be there for those who continue to prefer the current iPhone 'footprint'.
But just on screen size alone (without the differentiation of other possible flagship-only features such as the mentioned OIS, or sapphire crystal screen rumors), I strongly suspect, once people see and touch the larger version, many potential buyers may change their mind, and I'm thinking the 5.5" model may outsell the 4.7" by a margin of
at least 2:1. Throw any feature differences between the two sizes into the mix, and it'll be no contest.
Other than plain-old phone calls, most other things we do on our iPhones are better on a bigger screen, and people will rationalize, and adjust to the larger size.
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If that's true then Apple is really following Samsung and others.. wow...
Flagship phones have big screens.
The "mini" versions (which still have a huge screen) have inferior hardware. S4 mini , One mini etc..
So if thats true, Sony is the leader with their full spec "compact" xperias.
Flagship phones have big screens.
The "mini" versions (which still have a huge screen) have inferior hardware. S4 mini , One mini etc..
So if thats true, Sony is the leader with their full spec "compact" xperias.
To support your assumption: Couple of months ago I played around with the Galaxy Note of a colleague of mine. Its size and weight felt suprisingly well - far better than I thought. Thus I feel your prediction may be spot on.
q.f.t.!
And for the phone calls there are still options (such as a headset or (possibly) the rumored iWatch device) to somewhat mitigate the potential embarrassment of holding a "phablet" to one's ear.
Will Apple Compromise on the Iphone 6/ 4.7 ?
The 4.7 inch Iphone 6 "looks" very interesting. I hope Apple doesn't pull a con job on customers. If they don't have the following specs I would be very disappointed:
1. 1704x960 resolution. Not quite full HD, not even close to Quad HD, but okay.
2. OIS. My G2 has OIS and the G3 will have OIS+, 2 steps above no OIS.
3. Wireless charging. Not a deal breaker, but I have it on my G2 and enjoy it.
4. NFC. Totally neutral on this. Have it on my G2 but never use it.
Previously had a 4, 5, and 5S. I'll come back to the Ip6 if they do it right.
The 4.7 inch Iphone 6 "looks" very interesting. I hope Apple doesn't pull a con job on customers. If they don't have the following specs I would be very disappointed:
1. 1704x960 resolution. Not quite full HD, not even close to Quad HD, but okay.
2. OIS. My G2 has OIS and the G3 will have OIS+, 2 steps above no OIS.
3. Wireless charging. Not a deal breaker, but I have it on my G2 and enjoy it.
4. NFC. Totally neutral on this. Have it on my G2 but never use it.
Previously had a 4, 5, and 5S. I'll come back to the Ip6 if they do it right.
I see many people here arguing about whether or not the 4.7" iPhone will be the "C" version of the iPhone 6 lineup. I personally agree with having both iPhones almost identical with screen size as the only major difference, but let's face it, the 4.7" is probably going to be the "C" model of Apple's next line up. It's just not possible that Apple will not include a better processor/more RAM/better battery life. True the disparities might not be as dramatic as the 5c and 5s, however the 5.5" is just by default going to be the better model.
My logic is that the 4.7" is of the people who want a high tech phone for general use, while the 5.5" will be for people who want a super high tech phone that will last them several years or more.
One thing that I think Apple possibly could do after the new iPhones come out is continue the iPhone 5c and offer it free, while the 5s could be 99$, and the 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones 199$ and 299$ respectively for whatever amount of storage they choose.
//The performance of technology may double over 18 months, but consumers only get half of that.
~anonymous
My logic is that the 4.7" is of the people who want a high tech phone for general use, while the 5.5" will be for people who want a super high tech phone that will last them several years or more.
One thing that I think Apple possibly could do after the new iPhones come out is continue the iPhone 5c and offer it free, while the 5s could be 99$, and the 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones 199$ and 299$ respectively for whatever amount of storage they choose.
//The performance of technology may double over 18 months, but consumers only get half of that.
~anonymous
It could be MUCH better
- in low light (see how for example the Lumia 1020 or the 520 behaves in low light, and how crappy the 5s is compared to them WRT low shutter speed handheld shots...)
- while shooting video without having to use electronic stabilization, which (further) increases the focal length (and must, therefore, be disabled if the narrow FL is too annoying - more info in my writeup: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1600908/ )
... just don't forget that the main target customers of Apple isn't the tech-savvy. For camera geeks, OIS is a must. For housewives or soccer moms, not so. The latter don't require OIS.
With a bigger battery. See for example the G3.
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With OIS, it'd take much-much better under certain circumstances (low light handheld shooting). And much wider videos (in every possible circumstance, assuming you use the stock camera client, which doesn't allow for disabling electronic IS in any way).
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A lot of thin non-iPhones, even the cheapish Nexus 5, have OIS. Therefore, comparing it to a huge DSLR lens is strange. We aren't talking about sensor sizes, equivalent aperture, bokeh etc - simply OIS. Which has been added to other models for over two years (starting with the 920, where it already behaved excellently).
OIS would be a significant improvement.
You clearly don't know the phone market then. Phones with screens over 5" are in the minority. It's just too effing big to get in a pocket.
$4-$5 for Apple, but $40 - $50 for the consumer buying the Apple product.
That would be really odd.
Apple worked hard to bring iPad Mini and iPad Air together as close as possible in terms of specifications (the only difference really is 0,25 GHz clock speed and colour gamut), so people decide exclusively on the screen size.
Despite the fact that original mini was lacking spec-wise, and still sold *very well*.
I'm just not seeing them chopping the market up
Apple worked hard to bring iPad Mini and iPad Air together as close as possible in terms of specifications (the only difference really is 0,25 GHz clock speed and colour gamut), so people decide exclusively on the screen size.
Despite the fact that original mini was lacking spec-wise, and still sold *very well*.
I'm just not seeing them chopping the market up
I guess it depends a lot on where you carry your phone. Shirt pockets are mostly out, but based on what I've seen so far, I'm pretty sure I'd have no problem fitting a 5.5" iPhone in my jacket or coat pocket.
Time will tell. For now I stand by my assessment, but if it turns out I was wrong, Ill gladly eat my words.
And not everybody cares if their phones have OIS. For those concerned about quality buy a DSLR.
I really hope the stupidly huge 5.5 inch phone doesn't have better specs and features that the NORMAL sized one just because it is larger. I love iOS but if that happens, I might try android out. I have never tried it out and have always bashed it being the Apple fanboy that I am) but if Apple does this, it would clearly be out of their usual 'doing the best for the consumer', while slapping a larger margin on the 5.5 inch model and enticing consumers to buy into it.
Please don't do it Apple. When I buy a new phone I like it to be the best available.
Please don't do it Apple. When I buy a new phone I like it to be the best available.
Apple doesn't care about the whole market, they care only about the premium segment. Apple's own analysis highlighted that premium customers trend toward larger screen smartphones. If you want a smaller smartphone you'll have options, but you can't expect the same features of a larger model, nor the same price.
So wrong.
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Are you really thinking this? ....
Apple is selling many millions of the current iPhone 5s. It's their flagship and has a 4'' display. So you are saying Apple jumps +1.5'' for their new flagship phone?
I'm so grateful you are no Apple manager. You even contradict yourself saying the 5.5'' will be lasting several years and quoting Moore's law.
It will be the same as with the iPad mini and iPad Air.
Strongly agree with this.
I also would like apples high end device, but not the biggest screen.