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i find it doubtful that Apple would find an amazing image stabilization feature and only include it on the 5.5" iPhone 6.

I find it doubtful that Apple would find an amazing security encouraging finger print recogniztion module and only include it on the 5S and not 5C/iPad/iPadmini.... Oh wait
 
... just don't forget that the main target customers of Apple isn't the tech-savvy. For camera geeks, OIS is a must. For housewives or soccer moms, not so. The latter don't require OIS.

And not everybody cares if their phones have OIS. For those concerned about quality buy a DSLR.

Most anyone would prefer a clear, focused image over a blurry, jittery one. And a person needn’t go to the opposite end of the spectrum towards a DSLR in order to obtain it.
 
This is not good news. Ming-Chi Kuo has a pretty good track record. And it makes sense that Apple would differentiate iPhones on more than screen size.

If this does turn out to be true then I'll keep my iPhone 5 for another year until OIS is hopefully available on the smaller iPhones. 5.5" is way to big to carry in a front pants pocket.
 
Aside from the screen size, great for people who prefer big phones, maybe as many as 30% of iPhone buyers, the distinguishing feature of the bigger model will be battery life.
Imagine what an iPhone could do with an Galaxy S sized battery.
The big one will have double the battery life of the 5S.
 
And not everybody cares if their phones have OIS. For those concerned about quality buy a DSLR.

Again and again: a lot of even cheapish phones have OIS and it's working GREAT. We lose NOTHING if Apple includes it - not much additional volume, not much additional weight. Exactly the opposite...

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Most anyone would prefer a clear, focused image over a blurry, jittery one. And a person needn’t go to the opposite end of the spectrum towards a DSLR in order to obtain it.

Exactly. Heck, the Lumia 920 had an excellent OIS implementation no less than two(!) years ago...
 
That rumored new 4.7" unit, with (supposedly) only marginally larger dimensions than the iPhone5S, will be there for those who continue to prefer the current iPhone 'footprint'.

But just on screen size alone (without the differentiation of other possible flagship-only features such as the mentioned OIS, or sapphire crystal screen rumors), I strongly suspect, once people see and touch the larger version, many potential buyers may change their mind, and I'm thinking the 5.5" model may outsell the 4.7" by a margin of
at least 2:1. Throw any feature differences between the two sizes into the mix, and it'll be no contest.

Other than plain-old phone calls, most other things we do on our iPhones are better on a bigger screen, and people will rationalize, and adjust to the larger size.

Don´t think so.
In my opinion, the bigger screen sizes are only a product of the
inferior android producers. Originally, the screens were made bigger to compete technically or even comes close to, in particular in the field of batteries.
But there was a heavily investment in PR/marketing to sell the new equation "larger screen = premium / high end" to the customer.
That just isn´t true.

Think about it. Certainly bigger screens need more power, but still such devices should have considerably longer battery power. Especially when most devices use amoled screens and additionally android os is held as dark as possible. Ever wondernd why ios is the only os mostly in white or very bright. The others simple can´t do it, without a battery power problem.
 
Seems silly to reserve optical stabilization for the 5.5" phone.

The 4.7" will be the bigger seller and should be the premium phone.

The larger phone is a niche market for Apple and all Android phones.
 
Larger iPhone is only for small market. I dint think Apple will keep something for that phone exclusive if it can make there products better in general.
 
Seems silly to reserve optical stabilization for the 5.5" phone.

The 4.7" will be the bigger seller and should be the premium phone.

The larger phone is a niche market for Apple and all Android phones.

It will be really interesting to see which phone sells better. I'd guess 4.5/4,.7" is an ideal size, but we will see how it is soon enough.

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This is not good news. Ming-Chi Kuo has a pretty good track record. And it makes sense that Apple would differentiate iPhones on more than screen size.

If this does turn out to be true then I'll keep my iPhone 5 for another year until OIS is hopefully available on the smaller iPhones. 5.5" is way to big to carry in a front pants pocket.

Why do they need to differentiate? Screen size should be enough to differentiate and other than that devices should be equal.
 
Are we forgetting the first generation mini? When that new screen size launched, there was a size difference, retina vs non-retina AND the guts were substantially different too. Sure the second generation lined up bigger and smaller but perhaps Apple is going to follow the same approach here?

So we're supposed to believe after having 3.5" and 4" flagship devices Apple is now going to jump to 5.5" as the flagship and the more reasonable increase to 4.7" will be relegated to second class citizen?
 
Lets not start with the MP foolishness. MP means nothing in terms of picture quality. .3 mp is more than enough for a 4"x6" print for instance.

There are numerous articles on the subject... https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=megapixel myth

Ok first of all, most people don't print these days. They post their pics on big screens or people see them on other people's facebook on their own phone. But you do need around 8 megapixels at least. But otherwise best to keep it low.
 
I find it doubtful that Apple would find an amazing security encouraging finger print recogniztion module and only include it on the 5S and not 5C/iPad/iPadmini.... Oh wait

The 5C was basically replacing the 5 so that's not a valid comparison. I have a hard time believing Apple is going to jump from 4" to 5.5" for their flagship model phone. They're selling record numbers of 4" phones so obviously not everyone wants an "iPhablet".
 
... just don't forget that the main target customers of Apple isn't the tech-savvy. For camera geeks, OIS is a must. For housewives or soccer moms, not so. The latter don't require OIS.

You made the opposite point. The main target is the non tech savvy who just want little Johnny's first soccer goal picture to not be a blurred mess. Everyone wants the clearer pictures OIS helps provide, the camera geeks just care why and how its accomplished .

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Ok first of all, most people don't print these days. They post their pics on big screens or people see them on other people's facebook on their own phone. But you do need around 8 megapixels at least. But otherwise best to keep it low.

The print example is used to demonstrate how foolish the MP comparison is. 8 MP is more than necessary 5-6 is plenty especially for a phone screen on FB.
 
If the specs really are different (other than screen size) between different sizes of iPhones, a lot of people are going to be pissed off. Not everybody wants a huge phone.

Exactly for me if the specs of the 5,5 inch are better.
I'm just going to step out of the Apple Climate.
Replace my iPhone 5 with a HTC One M8.
iPad with Microsoft Surface 2.
and instead of buying a new Macbook I will probably start investing in a new game PC.

But to be honest if the only difference is OIS I would be disappointed but I won't care that much.

Because for me, I don't want to be forced to have a 5,5 inch phone just because I want the best specs.
I agree that the iPhone needs a bigger screen but not bigger then 5 inch. 4,5 would have been perfect.


BTW wasn't the iPhone 5C a huge flop?
iPhone made of cheaper material but still at the same price the iPhone 5 was?
Because to be honest for me, If I still had to upgrade from a iPhone 4(S) I would do anything to avoid the iPhone 5C maybe even buy a iPhone 5 on eBay or save more money for the 5S.

iPad Mini, iPhone 5C and iPhone 6 5,5" all sound like bad decisions.
 
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Apple will not feature-enhance one larger iPhone 6 over another.

Putting the anomaly of the iPhone 5S/5C aside, part of Apple's mantra is to keep its product lines focused and non-confusing (various competing models of Macintosh was something that caused consumers angst back in the Sculley days, which Steve Jobs deemed a huge negative).
 
You have it exactly backwards. This IS what a successful company with a hot product does because it can.

As I said, any "regular" company would do this. But I guess I expect more from Apple. Maybe because I tend to buy the more expensive Apple products (like the retina MBP) which have "more" to them, etc. I don't now. I just find it hard to believe $4-$5 would prevent them from putting an equally awesome camera in the phone. I understand a business is only in business to make money. If it makes a customer happy, that's a nice thing too, but often not the main reason. Because of my positive experiences with Apple and Apple support, I like to hold them to a higher standard and I think they've deserved it. This would soften my position on that a bit if they did this. That's all I'm saying.

Plus, how many Dell's (the company) could Apple buy outright? Dell is not great comparison. They suck for a multitude of other reasons too.

This would simply be a greed issue with Apple.

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Apple is actually more money hungry/hoarding than most companies.

I fully agree, but to their credit, they have been producing unbelievable products which I've been buying since 2005, after my first iPod, then Mac mini, then countless other computers, phones, etc. The issue I have is that they have so much money, and have had so much success, I just find it hard at the end of the day, when Tim sits down and says, nope, $5 is too much, let's keep the good stuff for the higher-end phone. I fully understand the game of giving you better features/hardware at high price points. But the camera is pretty important in today's mobile world. Skimping on that doesn't seem right. I'm not the head of a $600bln company, but if it were my call, I put out the best product, and eat the $5. But that's just me. If Apple had say only $10bln in the bank, you could make a case to squeeze every last penny of profit out of the device.
 
So we're supposed to believe after having 3.5" and 4" flagship devices Apple is now going to jump to 5.5" as the flagship and the more reasonable increase to 4.7" will be relegated to second class citizen?

I didn't say that. I simply countered an argument that since 2 sizes of iPads differ almost only in screen size, so should these 2 sizes of iPhones by pointing out that when iPad first became 2 sizes, they differenced by screen size, retina vs. non retina and hardware guts.

Several people have made the iPad argument as if it demonstrates that Apple wouldn't dare roll out hardware differences in iPhone 6 other than screen size. And yet, the iPad mini launch shows that Apple does indeed roll out "new screen sizes" with differences beyond just screen sizes.

The main presumption back then was that Apple was just protecting it's higher-margin, bigger iPad from too much cannibalization by giving it some added hardware punch. Per this rumor, that might apply here too… or not.
 
So wrong.

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Are you really thinking this? ....
Apple is selling many millions of the current iPhone 5s. It's their flagship and has a 4'' display. So you are saying Apple jumps +1.5'' for their new flagship phone?
I'm so grateful you are no Apple manager. You even contradict yourself saying the 5.5'' will be lasting several years and quoting Moore's law. ;)
It will be the same as with the iPad mini and iPad Air.

I don't want to be rude here but you make several untrue statements.

1. I never said the 5.5" was going to be the flagship phone, just that it would sell probably more than people expect as there are surprisingly large markets for 5"+ screen sizes.

2. I am not contradicting myself, I merely wrote that if the 5.5" has better specs then people who want to buy a phone that will last them a few years might be encouraged to buy the higher end phone (note the IF). My quoting of Moore's law is entirely unconnected

3. I am merely speculating on which phones Apple may keep after the new one(s) come out. Lots of people in developing countries can't afford the 5s, let alone the 5c. Therefore it makes sense to replace a free 4s with a free 5c. I would like to note that the 5s is still relatively new technology, and people who want to buy a phone that retains a 4" screen that has pretty good specs would be attracted to it.

I would also like to say that I would love them to be just like the iPad air/mini; I'm a big fan of it. I merely am skeptical that apple would not take the chance to put more specs in a larger phone.

If you were just joking about it, then I'm sorry for the long winded reply.

//The performance of technology may double over 18 months, but consumers only get half of that.
~anonymous
 
If the 4.7 inch has no OIS, it doesnt lead its rivals. Its already going to behind Amazons phone, and Samsung is just going to add OIS into theirs either the same month or a few months after to highlight that glaring weakness in their commercials. Apple should include OIS in 4.7.
 
Photo quality on a phone is very important to me #
Then do NOT try out the top Nokia Phones...those realy tempt me to switch away from my iPhone...but then my Olympus MFT-Gear isn't that large and...well...vaporizes any phone camera (actualy any point and shoot above the most basic models does, but that is sort of off-topic)
;)
 
What I can't believe is how a wildly simply concept escaped you.

5C and 5S were the same size phone. You chose simply based on the features you want. This is not the case with the iPhone 6 IF this rumor is true. They are two different sized phones, which essentially means anyone who wants a full featured iPhone 6 is limited to carrying around a phablet.

If OIS costs $4 then simply increase the price of the phone by $4. Heck, increase it by $10 for that matter. I'll gladly pay an extra $10 that I would have otherwise had to pay for the 4.7" and let Apple have their 250% profit margin on OIS if that's what it takes from being forced to buy a phone that's larger than I'd like.

Your analogy doesn't make sense. The 5C and 5S are two different phones. Entirely. Same screen size, different everything else. SOC, body, metal, plastic etc. You get the idea. ;)

The iphone 6 models will be the same phone except for the screen size. The comparison between the 5S and 5C are not the same. The same thing would be a 6C phone with a plastic body and last gen processor.

These rumors are nothing but that. rumors. I highly doubt Apple is making the 5.5 inch the premium product.

Don't believe everything you hear.
 
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