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Oracle Now Bundling Ask.com Adware With Java for Mac
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It is when you forget to do that for whatever reason that the problem begins. Ask is one of the most useless and pathetic things ever to exist on the net.
USELESS. Did I say USELESS?
I happened to notice it today as I was installing Java for some stupid reason. Even after I installed that piece of crap, it still did not work.
No Java, No Ask, and if this gets worse on the Mac I'll move to Linux until that gets crapped up and then I will be dead. 20 years of this BS in Windows is plenty. I moved to Mac to get away from this complete stupidity.
The people who work at Ask must be sad sacks. Working all day to make something USELESS that the only way to get people to use it is to FORCE or TRICK them into using it and even then, it is completely and utterly USELESS!
Karma baby, karma! Get a real job!
Thanks for the correction. I would have to say that pretty much all IDEs for Java are trash.
I have installed Flash on at least a dozen Macs and never got an ask.com prompt or any extra apps.
But Ive never felt the need to install Java on a Mac nor had to do for any functionality needs.
Yes, it exists on every Windows machine that I find infected by malware or viruses. If I see the Ask toolbar I know the machine has been compromised. It is like the Ask toolbar opens the floodgates.
Simply because those who have all that are those who install everything and anything without a care.
I don't know about others but I have to have it. Many developer tools require Java. Android Studio, MPLab X, Arduino IDE, NetBeans (though that should be a no brainer).
Any tool that uses the NetBeans Platform requires Java which there are MANY of them out there.
No, it doesn't happen with the JDK installer (which also installs/updates the JRE)
As a Java developer it still pisses me off though. As other comments here show, it's not like Java doesn't already have a problem with end-user acceptance without making it *worse*.
I really can't stand it when vendors do this. The thing they don't realise is that they put some less technical users like my parents off updating as they get worried about installing things they don't want! This then leaves them vulnerable to the security problems the patch fixes which everyone now knows about and can exploit. To me it sounds like security is a secondary concern for them, I wonder how many vulnerabilities there are in the bundled Adware? I would mind less if they asked this only once on the first time you install Java (or whatever) then just updated automatically without pestering or just asking for permission to update.
ARGH!
ARGH!
I had to go through the trouble of immediately unistalling this crap from a couple PCs because of being too fast to uncheck sometimes.
I still cannot believe Oracle would do this.
They might be very angry at Google and Microsoft, but this is not the right way.
I still cannot believe Oracle would do this.
They might be very angry at Google and Microsoft, but this is not the right way.
Crapware Yields Adware Yields Malware
Glad I said "Nope..."
Thanks for the info. And even just the JRE? Wow. FWIW, I get prompt-pop-ups to install Java in 10.9 or 10.10 whenever I install a new Waves plugin. I decline the Java, but accept the AAX/AU plugin and it just goes away.
Glad I said "Nope..."
If your in a high enough position, In a company big enough to be looking at oracle, maybe you should gain an understanding of what fraud means.....
This is not fraud.
Having installed Java countless times from Sun Microsystems, one is simply expecting a trustworthy installer from a serious company like Oracle.
People are paying for this by allowing developers to use Java.