Because we would like to order parts and repair our own? It isn’t rocket science here, but with the limitation Apple is putting in place, it made it difficult to replace our own stuff. I don’t care if there are stolen used cell phones. I buy new. I keep for years. We replace our own batteries and parts.
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Oregon's New Right to Repair Law Bans 'Parts Pairing' Restrictions
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About the only thing they don’t have is not being controlled by one entity, and all the disadvantages that comes with a platform that’s not in anyone’s control.
Then you should probably educate yourself on some high end Android phones. Because they offer everything you wanted and possibly better that iPhone.
About the only thing they don’t have is not being controlled by one entity, and all the disadvantages that comes with a platform that’s not in anyone’s control.
You got it wrong:
The law is designed to prevent Apple from making those parts not work properly and make the phone worse.
They are the ones that designed their pairing processes to create problems - not third-party manufacturers.
When you drink dodgy unverified whiskey, you know who to blame.
Yes and no. iOS is more polished design-wise. I still prefer camera of the iPhone to the high-end Android devices. It seems to react faster and takes more consistent images. Not even talking about taking video, which iPhone excels at. iPhone 15 Pro is also smaller than majority of these high-end Android devices, which is a pro for me.
Also I'm pretty invested in the Apple ecosystem having MacBook (because well, what else if you need Unix-like system and don't want to edit your Xorg.conf or repair your system every now or then), iPad (because Android tablets are not that great in my opinion), AirPods (do I even need to explain this?)... And yeah, with all this Apple stuff you really appreciate how it all plays together. I had Android before iPhone 15 Pro and I had iOS before then. I'm not member of any team exclusively. I just use what works best for me at the moment. It's possible I'll use Android in the future again and maybe not. I just wish to have OS that suits me best and where I'm the most efficient.
Too bad this comes just a few years too late to save the final Intel MacBook Pro’s. Great machines on paper, slightly hamstrung by Apples thermal management, but ultimately only doomed by their Machiavellian deathgrip on repair(prevention).
Oregon this week signed a Right to Repair bill into law, and it is notable because it is the first such law that puts a stop to the practice of parts pairing. Manufacturers like Apple are not able to require customers to use Apple-sourced parts that then have to be authenticated, with the bill giving Apple device owners the right to use new parts, used parts, or third-party parts.
Apple has launched repair tools for both independent repair shops and consumers, but repair components must be purchased directly from Apple. Components must be paired with a device serial number after being installed, which prevents unauthorized repairs that use third-party components. The bill states that companies cannot reduce the performance of a device or display misleading warnings for parts that are not properly paired.
According to repair site iFixit, Oregon's Right to Repair law is the strongest that has been passed to date. It does have consumer protections, such as requiring independent repair shops to have a "valid and unexpired certification" ensuring the person doing the repair has the "technical capabilities and competence necessary" to make a successful fix.
The elimination of the parts pairing restriction will allow independent repair shops to make more repairs without having to rely solely on components from Apple.
In addition to preventing manufacturers from requiring components to be free from pairing restrictions, the law requires companies to make parts, tools, documentation, and software available for smartphones produced in 2021 or later. For other electronics like computers, it is applicable to devices produced in 2015 and later.
Apple did not support Oregon's Right to Repair bill, and the company has said that it will result in safety and security issues for consumers. Apple will need to comply with the parts pairing portion of the bill for products made after January 1, 2025.
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On the other hand, it was the final step in getting me over the delusion that Apple was still some benevolent organization that had any goal beyond engineering a better money funnel to hoard the most investor cash possible.
imo... those touting this as a win for consumer choice miss where the consumer has a choice... consumers can choose not to buy an iphone if they wish not to be limited by apple's product constrains, apple doesn't have a monopoly on phones, apple has a monopoly on iphones... it should be apple's choice how iphones work, not the government's, let the consumer choose with their purchasing choice if they want apple to change.
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem."
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem."
Well, if you want Apple to be in full control of your iPhone after you've bought it then you can keep getting your repairs from Apple and keep following their rules. You are free to keep doing so if you wish.
But Apple doesn't make you sign a document when you buy an iPhone that states that you don't own it and can't do with it what you want because it's not your property post purchase. That's not a part of the deal.
You own your iPhone after paying for it. Apple doesn't have the right to block you from repairing your iPhone the way you want to repair it.
Apple is overstepping its role as a seller when it blocks an iPhone owner from buying parts from and getting repairs from 3rd parties or repairing it on their own.
It doesn't matter if Apple's repairs are best for security, user-experience or getting the best quality of parts, etc.
Your iPhone is your property. You paid the price Apple asks for it which means it's 100% your property. Doesn't matter that it's an iPhone or that it's made by Apple or what specific ideas Apple has about what you should or shouldn't be able to do with your property.
Your property is not Apple's property!
I don’t care what they like, if it has stolen parts it should be locked. Keeps repair shops honest. Locking could be considered degrading performance. What if the display is running too hot, can Apple do something to prevent further damage to the phone?
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Jail? How about just require them to disclose they are using inferior parts and let the consumer decide?
Profit safety issues.
Already covered by existing laws just go look at car world.
You have OEM, OEM equivalent/ Genuine and aftermarket. OEM is pretty clear. The next level means they are the exact same specs and the OEM or even made by them but the exact same specs. Then their is after market. Aftermarket can still be the same specs or reverse engineer specs but they are not made with the original molds or specs.
You can find it in the glass world in cars. OEM with have the OEM logo on it as well. Then you have teh same manufactures who make the OEM part and they often times use the exact same models but it will not go threw all the same requirements of testing or just not have the little logo put on it. Then you have aftermarket. I could go in more details on some of the other differences between OEM and down but there are slightly different levels each one a step down.
You can not say your part is OEM unless it is from the OEM. The other levels again require truth to them to match.
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If only Apple hadn’t overplayed their hand we wouldn’t be where you are now.
How naive...
Apple does with your hardware what they want, and can shut it down whenever they want. Your hardware also works (quite a lot) for Apple without your consent.
That is the case for all GAFAM by the way.
Simple once the device is out of warranty the question comes do you want to pay a huge price to fix it or just a be a little cheaper.
It is more about extending the life a device than anything else. People screaming about voiding warrenty I laugh as for the most part the items being fix are on devices that have no warranty or that part of the warranty is voided already (broken screen)
I understand your point. My point, however, is that when you travel to countries where the government has no moral compass, you are putting yourself at risk. Thankfully, you have avoided issues, as, I'm sure, most tourists do. However, we all know of situations where Westerners disappeared for no other reason than the country wanting to pick a fight with the US. Not my cup of tea.
This law is a step in the right direction.
Great, now I'm worried about being run over by a badly repaired iPhone on my daily commute.
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You can still go to Apple to repair your stuff. In case that wasn't clear from the article.
So you are saying that the world needs to stop hurting Apple's feelings? Like it is a person and not a corporation that pulls in over 300 billion annually.
So if a pers who lives already in Vietnam or China etc to only be allowed to use the AppStore where all the privacy apps are removed? Well they better get android that is even less secure
Yeah but they replace ¾ of the computer when it’s completely unnecessary. I thought iFixit tends to use donor phones for their parts which is why they are so expensive?
Whether it's necessary or not is irrelevant. The point is that Apple isn't making a huge profit off replacing 3/4 of the computer because they're giving you 3/4 of a computer.
And I don't think so, at least not for the 14—the site says it's an aftermarket OLED.
Nah **** 'em. They are just the least crap American corporate with some transient interest from me. What I'm saying is we need to go after the legislators to fix the problem with consumer law, not the individual companies.