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Apple: "We investigated a whole bunch of wild stuff that isn't ready for mass production and usage yet. Maybe the tech will be more mature in the future and we can include it then."

Media: "The watch could've been so much more than the nothing that we currently know about it. We even have an unnamed, un-verified source that made a quip about the scope of the project that we can take out of context to make it sound like there's trouble behind the scenes. Ahh, just imagine the page views."

MacRumors Users: "Typical Apple - neutering all of the good features so we have to buy the next generation. Also, just a reminder that some software they released like 6 years ago was buggy. I always have to bring that up in unrelated threads as it is really the only contribution I make to the discussion."

Society in two months: "That is amazing! I need one! Going to get it right now!"

Media in two months: "Tim Cook's vision is incredible and the watch is amazing. We will mindlessly worship everything about the watch for the next 6 months (or as long as it gets us page views, then we'll go back to attacking)."

MacRumors Users in two months: "Well, there are still software bugs in OS X."
 
But instead, it is neither.

Wrong. How do you know it's neither? Are you one of the developer? I don't know exactly the specific of what Watch capable of, but this at least I know for sure, Watch is more than just a Bluetooth headset phone accessory.

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MacRumors Users: "Typical Apple - neutering all of the good features so we have to buy the next generation. Also, just a reminder that some software they released like 6 years ago was buggy. I always have to bring that up in unrelated threads as it is really the only contribution I make to the discussion."

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MacRumors Users in two months: "Well, there are still software bugs in OS X."

Haha you make it sounds like we are the actual bugs.
 
I'm a habitual beta-buy the first one type of person. I've got my money already set aside for an :apple:watch. Will it be perfect? Hell no. Will it be better than any currently released smart watch? Hell yes. (Just what they've shown on the website is quite a bit more than any android or pebble watch offers currently.) And of course there will be new features, thinner, smaller, better battery time, etc in future generations. Um, that's how tech products work--at least the successful ones. If they didn't release newer, better, faster, stronger products every year than the product would go stale, so to speak. Was the first iPod as good as the last? First iPhone better than the 6? First ipad, MacBook, etc. better than current? I don't think so. Anyway, can't wait to get mine and be the first to both love it and, I'm sure, be a bit annoyed at some of the things it does or doesn't do the way I'd thought/hoped. (Right now my number one worry is battery life.) but I will still like, may be even love, love the product as I do and have loved my other Apple stuff.
 
neutered

It's understandable that if the technology isn't there, they hold back.

But doesn't it substantially reduce what purpose of healthkit app? I know it's suppose to consolidate info from multiple sources, but one would think the new novel input would be their watch with ten sensors...

Hmm, I hope they get the tech right because I would rather wait for a near perfect product then a gimmicky product like samsung gear. Only thing that would be cooler than all those sensors would be a spectrometer like SCIO.... which will come EVENTUALLY to phones or smart watches.

Either way, I always figured 2nd generation for me :)
 
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All I wanted was stand alone GPS for running and tracking miles, routes, etc. Nope. I have to carry an iPhone 6 AND my new watch. Dumb.
 
Haha you make it sounds like we are the actual bugs.

'you' are.

people, who, in the midst of the greatest explosion of computational expansion in known history, b1tch and moan about the limitations of the cutting edge of technology, at least..

sometimes, 'limitations' are what keep you from throwing a piece of hardware against a wall in frustration. after all, it starts somewhere, it has to work, and then people climb on board.

"NASA LANDS PROBE ON FIRST ALIEN PLANET. 1080p VIDEO AT 11"
"pfft.. i'm on 4K, son! BOOOORRRIIIING"
 
'you' are.

people, who, in the midst of the greatest explosion of computational expansion in known history, b1tch and moan about the limitations of the cutting edge of technology, at least..

sometimes, 'limitations' are what keep you from throwing a piece of hardware against a wall in frustration. after all, it starts somewhere, it has to work, and then people climb on board.

"NASA LANDS PROBE ON FIRST ALIEN PLANET. 1080p VIDEO AT 11"
"pfft.. i'm on 4K, son! BOOOORRRIIIING"

Actually teslo, I agree with you.
 
MacRumors Users: "Typical Apple - neutering all of the good features so we have to buy the next generation. Also, just a reminder that some software they released like 6 years ago was buggy. I always have to bring that up in unrelated threads as it is really the only contribution I make to the discussion."

I don't know of anyone who still complains about the bugs in iOS 2. The first part is right on though :p
 
I doubt it. Was the first iPhone major flop to you? Even tho it was lacking 3G and many functions, it set the standard for the smartphone world. Now it's Apple Watch turn for smart watch world.
Apple is trying to enter the market? You makes me laugh. The smartwatch was created due to iWatch rumor 3-4 years ago and others reacted to that rumor by introducing crappy smartwatch, the same way they introduced dumb smartphones before the iPhone.
:eek: No really :eek:

Utter nonsense.

Utter nonsense? What the hell Scruff? I think it's totally believable. I mean I would rather believe fallenjt instead of some made up stuff like this:
The serious iWatch rumors started with articles like this one in early 2013.

We know that Apple began their watch project in 2012. Google had already been working on their Glass project for a year by then, and was also buying smartwatch companies like WiMM.

Companies like Fossil, LG, Sony and Samsung had been SELLING smartwatches before any of that. E.g.

2009 Samsung TouchView attachment 530151 2009 LG w/video calling View attachment 530157
2011 Fossil Metawatch View attachment 530159 2012 Sony Smartwatch View attachment 530160

But the public and technology wasn't quite ready yet.

I think the success of the Pebble in early 2012 woke everyone up again.

As for fashion, the first modern smartwatch available in real gold ($5K to $20K if you add diamonds), and sold as a fashion accessory, is the 2012 I'M Watch from Italy.

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The Apple Watch brings nothing radically new to the market, except Apple's marketing power.

Now, who are you going to believe? Exactly! Just close your mind... it's easy. :D:D:p:p
 
Remember this moment. Apple Watch 1.0 2015. iPhone 1 2007 led to an interesting upgrade cycle and ecosystem.

I'm still not sold on suffering with a tiny 2" screen on my wrist rather than just taking two seconds to pull out a phone. Time will tell what Apple decides to do with this product line to make it more unique and appealing.
 
Isn't this what Apple wanted ?

Challenging, or otherwise..... You make it, you live with the consequences associated.

Similar to how the way "the iPhone changed out lives".. WHy does every thing Apple "thinks" up need to be a "change" issue, as they can only think "It will always be the way, because we can only think that"

Limited mind scope...

Start to think outside the box you live in..

Yes, the iPhone changed our live because everyone could see that... but come on... Its an accessory.... How on can anyone think that a piece of technology that must rely on something else, be a life changing idea ?

Unless you can do 4G on the watch, surf the internet all without the use of a phone ?

For me anyway, it will have to be just as big as the life changed as the iphone for me to even start believing that anything else could be from Apple..

Nice try.

So who's not thinking outside of the box besides you? You've passed judgement on something you've never experienced.

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All I wanted was stand alone GPS for running and tracking miles, routes, etc. Nope. I have to carry an iPhone 6 AND my new watch. Dumb.

Why do you need GPS for running? Do you use an app that requires GPS data? You do know that Apple Watch tracks steps so it will measure distances as well as calories, heart rate, etc., don't you? And you can load music onto it so a pair of wireless headphones should work too. I haven't figured out people's disappointment with be lack of GPS in the Apple Watch yet and haven't heard a good reason. Except they don't want to carry the phone they were already carrying anyway.

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I'm still not sold on suffering with a tiny 2" screen on my wrist rather than just taking two seconds to pull out a phone. Time will tell what Apple decides to do with this product line to make it more unique and appealing.

I hear ya but I don't think the "suffering" really comes into play until you're looking at a small screen for extended periods of time. So long as Apple and developers keep their promise of glanceable info, it should be fine.
 
Apple: "We investigated a whole bunch of wild stuff that isn't ready for mass production and usage yet. Maybe the tech will be more mature in the future and we can include it then."
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Wow, it's only February and you've already won troll of the year award.
 
All I wanted was stand alone GPS for running and tracking miles, routes, etc. Nope. I have to carry an iPhone 6 AND my new watch. Dumb.

Yeah, 'cos that extra 150 grams has such an impact on your performance. Also, if you want gps for your run you're probably doing distance running, in which case you'll probably take your phone with you anyway.
 
I've never been huge on the Apple Watch, it has always seemed like Apple is just trying to enter a market because others are doing so.

Unless you have been living under the rock or in some totally remote desert for the last 4 years, the rumour of Apple building a smart watch surfaced long before most of these smart watches were launched. And then all the sudden other companies started throwing mud on the walls and rushing with their own versions. I hope this electric car rumoured thing is jut Apple tricking followers :)
 
I'm not talking about gen 1. I'm talking about all the stuff it's clear they're working on. Using your logic the iPhone wasn't ambutious either because gen 1 didn't have 3G, App Store, 3rd party native apps, copy/paste, required iTunes to do almost anything, etc.

But it was ambitious because it crated a browsing and touch screen experience never seen before. Gen 1 apple watch really isn't doing anything we haven't seen before. Literally every feature in the thing has been done. That was not at all the case with gen 1 iphone. Far from it.

And that still isn't to say this product won't donwell. I just don't find it ambitious in the slightest. Future releases? Well sure. There is a possibility, as with anything, right?
 
Unless you have been living under the rock or in some totally remote desert for the last 4 years, the rumour of Apple building a smart watch surfaced long before most of these smart watches were launched. And then all the sudden other companies started throwing mud on the walls and rushing with their own versions. I hope this electric car rumoured thing is jut Apple tricking followers :)

I don't really follow Amarth watch news. Do you know, for a fact, that development on other smart watches began after the Apple watch rumors started? Serious question by the way. I truly don't know. I ask because a timeline can seem one way but be totally different. I highly doubt that these companies "throwing mud" had virtually no development time.
 
good call by them. You can Imagine the out cry from the fans if for certain people some of these features were inconsistent. You see people already complaining about touch iD and I personally think that works really well in the current iPhone .
 
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