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OS X 10.4.1 Now Available

I just updated my dual 800 to Tiger and 10.4.1 and I find that performance on a busy system is much less smooth than it was with 10.3.x. Hopefully, things like this will be worked out long before 10.4.9.
 
I noticed that they still haven't enabled Quartz2DExtreme by default yet, although it does seem a little faster when enabled now. I don't notice much of a difference on my G5, but on my iBook stuff is definately faster, but the biggest improvement is that spotlight flys. It used to take as long as the old search did, but now it rocks. Solid update!
 
mduser63 said:
I'm disappointed that they didn't say anything about updating the iTunes Controller Widget. It barely works. Also don't see any mention of fixing the bug in iPhoto where pictures get "enhanced" when you click done after performing edits. Oh well, maybe in 10.4.2.
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it works fine on an iMac 20" G5
 
kcmac said:
It always amazes me how most of the bug or issue posts are angry ones when you know the consequences of being an early adopter.
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To be fair, there is a bit of an issue here as regards stability and bugs in early builds of 10.4. Sure, those of us upgrading know we're early adopters and to be sure to back up etc

But what about those folks who just went to buy a Mac for the first time. They're getting Macs with Tiger on it without the option of 'waiting' unless you count not having a computer. They've heard 'Macs are stable, Macs don't crash' and then they get faced with all these 'odd' quirks that are the results of OS's newness. It must be a little confusing for them - particularly when the troubleshooting answers can be 'wait and see' It's likely to reinforce their 'told you so' PC-using friend's view that Apple is a mickey mouse company.

Having said all that, I suspect that Tiger is pretty stable for the majority of people (I haven't had a panic and only one unexpected quit under .0 or .1), and hopefully the Mac newbies are still only trying the basic stuff (not SMB shares etc) and won't come across the 'buggy' areas until they've already been fixed.
 
or..

myamid said:
Um... well although I "somewhat" agree with you, does anyone remember the
10.2.6 (or was it 10.2.8? ) debacle where Apple had to pull the update for a few days... Oh, and the 10.3.0 upgrade that screwed up Firewire drives.

Although I really do trust Apple to the core, I can't blame anyone for being cautious after these 2 screwups!
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... how about firmware update that *burned* my G5 motherboard. It had to be replaced - thank God that my G5 was still under warranty.
 
Dictionary widget update?

You can choose from three font sizes in the Dictionary widget after installing this update (regular, large, and extra-large)—click the "i" button to access the Font size pop-up menu.
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Extract from Apple site, does anyone see this "i" button on dictionary?

I don't.


Update.... It's there after you search a word, sorry!
 
beatle888 said:
it works fine on an iMac 20" G5
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Which? The iPhoto issue or the iTunes widget? The iPhoto issue seems to be pretty consistent with people running 10.4.0 and iPhoto 5.02.... However, if you have never calibrated your display, so that you are seeing the Generic RGB profile, then you would never see this issue. :)
 
me too...

decash said:
An interesting point for those yet to update:

If you have edited the World Clock widget (Library:Widgets:World Clock.wdgt:World Clock.js) to add a city which is not listed by default, you may lose this information. Point in case: I added the Canadian city Edmonton to be on the same time zone as Calgary - and upon 10.4.1 first boot it became Guatemala.

An easy fix, but back up your old World Clock.js and localizedStrings.js (in the language directory) if you've made lots of changes!
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I did a same thing. I added my home town, Sarajevo :)
Thanks for the tip
 
Applespider said:
Lucky you - it doesn't appear to have fixed anyone else's colour preferences. :( Which colour profile are you running on - System Preferences/Display?
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I'm using a calibrated version of the Cinema HD Display profile.


Only one crash in 10 hours, woo-yay, Tiger is finally stable. :D
 
kcmac said:
But holy moly, why act like whining crybabies?
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There is a subtle difference between crying and saying that these are unnecessary bugs. An operating system should never be declared GM with SERIOUS bugs like upgrading messing up many systems, burning not possible, ichat doesn't connect over proxy, choppy av and many many more.

I know the risks of being an early adopter and I accept bugs, but c'mon it didn't have to be THAT many, now did it?

kcmac said:
And I am not singling you out Diatribe. You were just a convenient quote.
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Good, because otherwise I would think you wouldn't have read my post and the one after that correctly. :p
 
Diatribe said:
I know the risks of being an early adopter and I accept bugs, but c'mon it didn't have to be THAT many, now did it?
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That would be an interesting poll for MacPolls...some kind of subjective, "I had extreme difficulty, moderate difficulty, little/no difficulty upgrading to Tiger...." kind of question. It seems to me that subjectively, the vast preponderance of MR'ers have had at least moderate system instability, with only a few people reporting no issues whatsoever with Tiger....

But totally agree, I knew what I was getting into, and actually, it seems to have stabilized somewhat for me -- woo-wee, I'm almost at 5 days of uptime on 10.4.0! :D Possibly because I know what not to try now, but.... :rolleyes:
 
Quartz2DExtreme?

greenfluke said:
I noticed that they still haven't enabled Quartz2DExtreme by default yet, although it does seem a little faster when enabled now. I don't notice much of a difference on my G5, but on my iBook stuff is definately faster, but the biggest improvement is that spotlight flys. It used to take as long as the old search did, but now it rocks. Solid update!
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Can you tell me how you update this manually? A redirect to a web site would be fine. Thank you.
 
Early adopters also tend to be tinkerers

I've had very few problems with Tiger on two machines (desktop & laptop).

It's the little "add-ons" and system mods and plug-ins and so forth that seem to account for the vast majority of glitches that people report in 4.0 and 4.1.

Apple cannot POSSIBLY test for all these little mods. Tinkerers, you know who you are: do a clean install and then gradually (like, one at a time) add your favorite goodies back in. The same goes for peripheral drivers that don't use built-in OS services.

The people who buy brand-new Macs off the shelf with Tiger pre-installed are very unlikely to experience the kind of problems most people here are describing.
 
shemp9999 said:
Is this an update of an OS or an Application?
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shemp - I have an app that has the X background if I install it in 10.3.8 but in 10.4 it has the background you described, I think it might be something with the OS itself not the individual file
 
Well isn't it the classic scenario were one has declared that Tiger were going to be released in the 1st half of 2005 and the end of the 1st half fast approaching they decided to release a GM which maybe was not solid enough... in order to not lose face :rolleyes:
On a different note what really [expletive deleted] me off is Java 5 not supported by Apple on Panther :confused:
I need Java 5 as we upgraded a project I'm working on at work to Java 5 so I must upgrade to Tiger but I also need the Cisco VPN client which isn't working yet on Tiger :mad:
 
alexf said:
I still have yet to be convinced that Tiger is worth the upgrade, especially after hearing all of the horror stories of crashing applications. I think at least I'll wait until 10.4.3, if I upgrade at all.

I am very satisfied with 10.3.9 at the moment. Being in its 10th incarnation (versus Tiger's 2nd) means that the OS has essentially been perfected. Why would I give that up to get a buggy young OS with more flashy features?

And by the way: what is this widgets obsession anyway? Apple is acting like this is the greatest new feature of Tiger. If that's true, then thanks, but I think I'll keep my reliable Panther and my $129.
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I agree with you. From what I've seen and used, Tiger seems to be the smallest jump in improvements and features from each of the previous .1 increments. Until the applications you NEED require Tiger, I'd recommend sticking with Panther, which works just fine at this time.

I'm still up in the air about Dashboard. Once again, I agree with your point. If Dashboard is one of the major features, then I think there just wasn't enough to truly advertise for Tiger, or they advertised the wrong things. Dashboard might prove useful, or it might just be a waste of resources.
 
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