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Nothing like an update that needs a fix.

I am still on 10.7 and have no confidence in Apple.

lol...me too. 10.7.0 just works... I remember when .1 was released and a lot of people here basically said it takes 4 to 5 revisions to get it right (citing SL). Those comments are pretty much stuck in my head so waiting for .5 and all should be good ;)
 
i will be sticking 10.7.2 thanks, after I get it back from time machine!

what the crap happened to lion, its been nothing but problems for a lot of people and it keeps getting worse with every update.
 
Perhaps it's a combination of software and hardware issues.

I installed 10.7.3 on my Mac Pro 1,1, which I have to say is possibly the sturdiest and most masterfully crafted Mac ever (and still competes with iMacs from six years later in terms of Geekbench scores), and I've had no issues at all.
 
I'll hold of a few days to come up from 10.7.2, but to all of you who are holding off on Lion in general until "Apple gets it right": you're wasting your time. 10.7.2 runs flawlessly on all three of my computers of varying vintage (2-5 years)

I don't really get it either. I use a Mac Pro at work that is running 10.7.2, and I push the thing hard for weeks at a time before rebooting. I've never had any issues with Lion what so ever. Once I get another chance to restart (probably by the weekend), I'll update to 10.7.3. I already updated to 10.7.3 on my MBP and I don't have any issues, and never have with Lion on that computer either.

I think this is just another issue of the .001% of people complaining loudly and the remaining 99.999% with no issues just not paying much attention.

Bugs happen people. Just because a few bugs are reported, does not mean there are any more bugs with this then with any other new software, OSX or otherwise. This is a RUMORS website, remember...
 
I use Lion every day and have encountered no issues. Except for a couple of minor bugs in Safari.
Yep. Lion has been fantastic for me. Safari is the only element of the update which seems to have some kinks. It has improved over recent iterations, but it still doesn't seem to run as smoothly as it did in Snow Leopard.

A small price to pay for the other improvements and features.
 
I think this is just another issue of the .001% of people complaining loudly and the remaining 99.999% with no issues just not paying much attention.

Bugs happen people. Just because a few bugs are reported, does not mean there are any more bugs with this then with any other new software, OSX or otherwise. This is a RUMORS website, remember...

Bingo, but sadly the U.S. is a country of serial complainers now and we all have to listen to their "misery."
 
Too bad all those elderly folks I used to see getting taken advantage of by the Geek Squad at Best Buy don't "know what they are doing."

Buggy Windows = $$$$ for the Geek Squad/Best Buy

:rolleyes:

Mmmmm... I always see the "Genius Bar" full also... but then again, we are not talking here of the same ol Win Vs Mac thing, are we?
 
Combo worked fine on my hackintosh and software update worked on my macbook...but of course at work everything fell apart just in time to make me look like an idiot. Managed to get a USB drive, disc utility, and terminal to work in recovery mode, but it took almost 2 hours out of my day. No, you can't anticipate everything, but it's not what I expect from Apple.
 
I just tried and the software update is still there. I don't want to touch it yet.

Now that I think about it, it could be not showing up in Software Update because I had the iCloud beta of 10.7.2 on both Macs, along with the GM seeds. No worries, I will install the Combo Update when I get home.
 
Mmmmm... I always see the "Genius Bar" full also... but then again, we are not talking here of the same ol Win Vs Mac thing, are we?
Being a former regional manager of [some] Geek Squad stores in the Bay Area, I'm pretty comfortable saying that they are quite different. Geek Squad bread and butter is malware removals which can easily run up past $300 once the 'agent' has sold the customer on the removal/restore, diagnostics, and backup. More often than not, around the time I left, much of the actual work was being done remotely—and sloppily. It used to be a good company, but now days it is more about taking advantage of the customer than looking after them. We can thank Best Buy for that.

The Genius Bar, being a service to support and look after Apple customers and maintain the Apple experience, approaches the matter from a completely different angle, and thus offers a completely different experience.
 
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10.7.3 Combo Updater fails

I have twice tried to upgrade my 10.7.2 MacBook Pro using the 10.7.3 Combo Updater and both times it failed to upgrade. (These were separate downloads, each tried twice.)

I then downloaded the 10.7.3 Updater and it upgraded me properly with no issues... so far.
 
Ahh, some Mac news. When Im old and sitting by the ol' thermal plasma unit, my grand children will ask me

"Gradpa Toddy, what was 'OH ESS TEN'?"

"Well, my little angels...that was a wonderful operating system they used before the great 'mobile OS wars'. Why, men and women could actually do things and be productive...it was incredible."

"Grandpa Toddy, that sounds crazy! You fought in the mobile OS wars didnt you?"

"Yes my dears, thats how Grandpa lost his typing skills. [I look off into the distance with tears in my eyes] Well, enough of that old talk, lets all grab moon ice cream!"

"Yay! Moon Ice Cream"


That is the future my friends...

That, my friend, is one of the best posts I've read in a long while! heh heh!
nice one :D
 
I had the same problem

Fortunately, I have the extended support package with my MacBook Air. They took me through reinstalling OSX on-line (after a couple of other measures failed) and it worked fine. It took three hours, but it did work.

I've had similar problems before, and assumed it was somehow related to the SSD (unfortunately mine is a Toshiba, and the original one that came with the computer failed in less than 6 months.)
 
Yep. Lion has been fantastic for me. Safari is the only element of the update which seems to have some kinks. It has improved over recent iterations, but it still doesn't seem to run as smoothly as it did in Snow Leopard.

A small price to pay for the other improvements and features.

Oddly enough, I have encountered very specific bugs in Safari. Not sure if others have seen any of the same ones.

1. Duplication of Download button (in upper-right hand corner of Window). For each file I downloaded, I tried to close the downloads dialogue, and it wouldn't close. Then the button duplicated itself, and I had around 5 of them.
2. Using the developer tools, and showing the Web Inspector palette, sometimes, the palette displays a website instead of the tools, so that there is one website on the top of the window and another one on the bottom. The only way to get it to go away is to close the window (no controls are showing).
3. Selected text, or a selected image stays selected sometimes, even after clicking off of the element, and onto another section of the page.

I was hoping the updated would fix some of these, and I can't confirm yet whether they do because I'm not sure how to reproduce these.
 
Windows Isn't malware. Malware is compact, efficient, and capable of functioning on all systems.

Windows is bloated, inefficient, and crashes on almost all hardware configurations.

Windows is a BUG. ;)

Some links would be helpful. I do not think anybody has had any issues with Windows crashing or having any malware (except for the one they installed themselves) since Windows Vista. If only OS/X had such record. While Windows quality is increasing steadily OS/X has been in a downfall (quality wise) lately.
 
Oddly enough, I have encountered very specific bugs in Safari. Not sure if others have seen any of the same ones.
I haven't encountered any of those. Instead I consistently run into two issues.

1) Due to unknown circumstances non-text form elements in Safari become extremely slow to process a change. For example, a select menu opens quickly, but hangs for as much as three seconds after a selection is made. Same goes for some other elements like check boxes or radio groups. Resolves, temporarily, when I restart the browser.

2) Safari eventually bogs down toward the point of becoming unusable. Lots of hangups while processing something or another, etc. Looks like some memory leaks but there seems to be something else to this as well. Granted, this is a fringe case, because by the time this happens I might have dozens of tabs open in a few windows, but I didn't have that problem in Snow Leopard. Also resolves, temporarily, when I restart the browser.

And there are a few relatively unimportant quirks. Web Inspector, when opened into the Console, cuts out a significant part of the overhead navigation buttons until I click the sliver of one showing and return to the console. Pretty annoying when debugging JavaScript. When I have a Web Inspector open for a page in the background sometimes it also litters the page with tooltips (similar to something I remember Windows XP doing when it slowed down and you dragged a window around, but at least that amused me).

Some links would be helpful. I do not think anybody has had any issues with Windows crashing or having any malware (except for the one they installed themselves) since Windows Vista. If only OS/X had such record. While Windows quality is increasing steadily OS/X has been in a downfall (quality wise) lately.
Search the web. Seriously. I was removing viruses from folks' Vista computers within weeks of official public adoption of the OS. Vista and Windows 7 are far more secure than XP has become, but they still have numerous malware issues. Spend a few minutes reading malware removal boards if you really need some kind of confirmation.

And crashing? Vista crashed left and right when it first came out and it still doesn't run very smoothly. Windows 7 is much better, but I wouldn't consider it to be anywhere near as stable as a good OS X installation (there are many reasons for this, which mostly boil down to the multi-company collaboration that goes into a given Windows installation). Consumer versions of Windows have always been a little iffy in terms of stability, but Windows 7 finally represents the marriage of server and customer that was supposed to be a feature of Vista. Windows 2000 was, for example, about as stable as a person could want an OS to be.

In either case a great deal comes down to how much the user has bogged their system down with intrusive third-party software products.
 
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Finally pulled the trigger

Last night when I saw 10.7.3 was out I figured I'd waited long enough and pulled the trigger on Lion for my 2011 MBP. Based on all the advice I've read, and not always heeded, in the six years I've been using a Mac, I specifically downloaded the combo updater to get to 10.7.3 after the installation and I'm glad I did. Other than needing a new version of BOINC, so far I'm liking Lion.
 
10.7.3 crash

the update just fried my SSD drive

after the re-boot i got those colorful messages, but the applications just kept crashing

i went to my boot drive and tried to use Disk Utility but it kept saying it could not repair my disk

this really blows
 
the update just fried my SSD drive

after the re-boot i got those colorful messages, but the applications just kept crashing

i went to my boot drive and tried to use Disk Utility but it kept saying it could not repair my disk

this really blows

Did you read the Memo ?
 
Perhaps Apple is simply overwhelmed with too much to do, and too few people to get the job done.

If they weren't broke, they'd have the money to hire more people... :eek:

It's a shame they have consciously made the decision to let quality control slide and ship out buggy software.

Especially when it's the OS. Lion continues to whimper...
 
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