It's not redundant at present, but it is redundant just as soon as the Magic New Sharing App is installed./Users/Shared isn't redundant to the home folder. It's a location to put files where multiple users can access them freely.
Yes, this is actually what I've assumed. Similar to iOS app isolation, this would be OS X user isolation. I think that maybe Apple considers one user wanting access to another one's so unusual that they consider it a "power feature".Just had a scary thought: what if the bug is the other way around? What if Apple intentionally wanted to hide the Users folder, but the bug doesn't do it on all computers? Maybe Apple wanted to do something like it did with the Library folder in a user's home directory?
Please tell me I missed something that explicitly stated that I'm wrong.
Thanks, I will try this since it sounds like a "proper" solution without too much messing around.I believe this to be a bug, and related to permissions. I was able to run the terminal command: 'sudo chflags nohidden /Users' , and then repair permissions. This made the /Users folder appear and stay even after a reboot.
First the slow performance (still an issue), then the SSL bug, now this. Glad I stayed at Mountain Lion![]()
Easy fix, but not sure why Apple believes it has to hide folders. Some of us need to search through those folders from time to time to config things, especially the Library folder. Guess they are worried about inexperienced people getting into the files, so better to hide.
Easy fix, but not sure why Apple believes it has to hide folders. Some of us need to search through those folders from time to time to config things, especially the Library folder. Guess they are worried about inexperienced people getting into the files, so better to hide.
This is such a minor thing, and very easily fixed. Simple terminal command and permissions repair. I haven't seen any other issues at all so far.
Don't forget that the general person might not have a need to go through these folders. Many might think, "Oh, what's this folder? I don't need this!" and trash it. Not everyone is as tech-savvy as MacRumors readers.
You basically answered your own question. Searching through the Users folder isn't a common task for many and for the people that need to access that they can drill through the OS to get it much like the Library folder.
The bug has been reported. Turning on Find My Mac is a trigger for it.
nope, the correct permissions on Users are system: read&write and read only for admin and everyone. that's how it was in 10.9.2 and all prior versions and that's how it is in 10.9.3 after you repair permissions.Nope. I'm still on 10.9.2 and Users is only Read/Write for the logged-in user. Read Only for "admin" and "everyone."
doesn't work for me unless I turn off "find my mac" first.I believe this to be a bug, and related to permissions. I was able to run the terminal command: 'sudo chflags nohidden /Users' , and then repair permissions. This made the /Users folder appear and stay even after a reboot.
One suggestion is that people were deleting the folder and borking their machine, so Apple was hiding it to prevent that. However, I find that highly unlikely. I think it is some strange glitch. There are many reasons to have that folder visible.
However, I am always baffled at how Macs are configured out of the box. I always spend the first few minutes on a new machine putting an alias of the documents folder, apps folder, downloads folder and utilities folder on the dock so that I can get to stuff quickly. And I always show my HD on the desktop. The standard setup makes me feel like they don't want me to get to anything.
One thing I have noticed is how much variety there is among Mac users in how they access various things. I always think my way is the only way and then I get on someone else's Mac and things are all different, but it works for them.
Just had a scary thought: what if the bug is the other way around? What if Apple intentionally wanted to hide the Users folder, but the bug doesn't do it on all computers? Maybe Apple wanted to do something like it did with the Library folder in a user's home directory?
Please tell me I missed something that explicitly stated that I'm wrong.
HD on the desktop.
Wow. That's really old-school. Virtually pointless at this point. Very easy to get to in any case. Anybody who would ever have actual need to access it, would know how to do it in less than 1 second. Meanwhile, it's kept out of way of less knowledgable users who could muck it up.
(same with Library)
that's my thought. and it seems to make more sense than the other way around, other than - why would they want to remove the Users folder?
HD on the desktop.
Wow. That's really old-school. Virtually pointless at this point. Very easy to get to in any case. Anybody who would ever have actual need to access it, would know how to do it in less than 1 second. Meanwhile, it's kept out of way of less knowledgable users who could muck it up.
(same with Library)
Either way, you can't remove the /Users/ folder through Finder anyways ("required by OS X").
Although I'm currently cloning my system to try something.
Since 10.9.3 even in the betas... this has been an issue for me. (I need access to this to put .ipsw into the folder in iTunes.)
/Users/ hidden and so is Shared (although I hid the latter one myself already...)
Updated via App Store.
3 user accounts.
Funny ACL entries in log.
/Users/ also has Read and Write priviledges for Everyone (this seems dubious, but I don't remember if that was there before).
Command + Shift + H, everyone?
I just checked, yes, the Users folder in my / folder is hidden.
Apple's software QA has become really awful over the years. I mean, how obvious must a bug be to be found by them before they ship a new release of their os?